Is it just me or is surgery almost a little too easy?

[nishka]

Like I can't wrap my head around. You basically WhatsApp someone, you get your CT scan done, you fly to Turkey or Italy, you pay them a bunch of money, they do work on you, you go with implants which are very small and try not to do too much, and then within six weeks you're mogging. This whole process can probably be done in three months. Imagine doing this for three months and then having a good life and focusing on something else, like making money. Or imagine just watching looks maxing edits Or like mewing and shit like just for your entire life. Why doesn't everyone do this? Obviously there are risks but somebody tell me what the risks are. I almost feel like it's too good to be true. Like how can you get a new face for less than that of a new car?

 

[CkldPsycho]

because most underestimate the importance of looks/how much surgery can help improve their life, basically not bp. and if by chance theyre bp many dont want to put in the effort/cant afford it, see most folks here

 

[nishka]

because most underestimate the importance of looks/how much surgery can help improve their life, basically not bp. and if by chance theyre bp many dont want to put in the effort/cant afford it, see most folks here

yeah i think the "Risk" of getting botched is what it is but i dont see how bad you can look as long as you dont go crazy.

 

[MLGS0LD1ERB0Y]

Like I can't wrap my head around. You basically WhatsApp someone, you get your CT scan done, you fly to Turkey or Italy, you pay them a bunch of money, they do work on you, you go with implants which are very small and try not to do too much, and then within six weeks you're mogging. This whole process can probably be done in three months. Imagine doing this for three months and then having a good life and focusing on something else, like making money. Or imagine just watching looks maxing edits Or like mewing and shit like just for your entire life. Why doesn't everyone do this? Obviously there are risks but somebody tell me what the risks are. I almost feel like it's too good to be true. Like how can you get a new face for less than that of a new car?

You're right, it's just the fear of getting botched that gets to people, and it really depends on how serious the surgery is.

 

[nishka]

if society

You're right, it's just the fear of getting botched that gets to people, and it really depends on how serious the surgery is.

had made it so that buying a new car is the same as getting surgery no one would care

 

[nishka]

also its so hard to justify if you are MTN like if you are LTN its easy justification

You're right, it's just the fear of getting botched that gets to people, and it really depends on how serious the surgery is.

 

[MLGS0LD1ERB0Y]

also its so hard to justify if you are MTN like if you are LTN its easy justification

Surgery at MTN is justifiable. MTN simply isn't good enough in this day and age, particularly in this hypergamous society surrounding the world of dating. Surgery is a must for anyone under HTN if you want to survive in the dating market. That however, isn't really the reason I am opting for surgery, it is simple the desire to be above average.

You are right though, LTN is still very justifiable.

 

[nishka]

Surgery at MTN is justifiable. MTN simply isn't good enough in this day and age, particularly in this hypergamous society surrounding the world of dating. Surgery is a must for anyone under HTN if you want to survive in the dating market. That however, isn't really the reason I am opting for surgery, it is simple the desire to be above average.

You are right though, LTN is still very justifiable.

as somewhat of a MTN myself who does fine with mid girls (no super models) its just like you can gym max a lot too you know it does make a big difference (assuming decent height) which surgeries do you have planned?

 

[MLGS0LD1ERB0Y]

as somewhat of a MTN myself who does fine with mid girls (no super models) its just like you can gym max a lot too you know it does make a big difference (assuming decent height) which surgeries do you have planned?

I'm 17 at the moment, It's quite rough of a plan at the moment.

Most likely a lip lift to fix my chin to philtrum ratio, and i'm currently researching surgeries to fix my slight midface deficiency.

Before any of that happens, I am sticking to peptides which I have already commenced, and roidmax before any surgery.

 

[nishka]

I'm 17 at the moment, It's quite rough of a plan at the moment.

Most likely a lip lift to fix my chin to philtrum ratio, and i'm currently researching surgeries to fix my slight midface deficiency.

Before any of that happens, I am sticking to peptides which I have already commenced, and roidmax before any surgery.

make sure to do only trt doses and keep estrogen in check so that you dont fuse your growth plates. clav was talking about how lip lifts cause a gummy smile so thats something too

 

[MLGS0LD1ERB0Y]

make sure to do only trt doses and keep estrogen in check so that you dont fuse your growth plates. clav was talking about how lip lifts cause a gummy smile so thats something too

Cheers for the info bro,

Yeah I'll defo have to weigh up pros and potential cons of the lip lift, and far more research has to go into the roids. It's all very foggy at the moment.

 

[Foreverbrad]

also its so hard to justify if you are MTN like if you are LTN its easy justification

To be honest it’s easier to justify at MTN.
At LTN there’s a very real possibility I blow £50k and am still incel because I only ascend to MTN due to a horrible base.


You underestimate:
1. How little effect these surgeries actually have.
2. How much time and misery it actually involves to wageslave for them.
3. The botch/revision risk.
4. In the case of things like bimax, the possibility to waste years getting your teeth ready.

 

[nishka]

To be honest it’s easier to justify at MTN.
At LTN there’s a very real possibility I blow £50k and am still incel because I only ascend to MTN due to a horrible base.


You underestimate:
1. How little effect these surgeries actually have.
2. How much time and misery it actually involves to wageslave for them.
3. The botch/revision risk.
4. In the case of things like bimax, the possibility to waste years getting your teeth ready.

i think at a low body fat it will change a lot
most bad results they just never lean down
2. this is whatever the slaving is happening anyway its just how you use your money
3. yes
4. can you tell me more about this i want bimax in turkey but live in canada so will i have to wear braces for a long time? my teeth are relatively straight

 

[Foreverbrad]

i think at a low body fat it will change a lot
most bad results they just never lean down
2. this is whatever the slaving is happening anyway its just how you use your money
3. yes
4. can you tell me more about this i want bimax in turkey but live in canada so will i have to wear braces for a long time? my teeth are relatively straight

If your teeth are relatively straight anyway you may not even need braces.
The other thing that can hold you up is if you have things like periodontal disease or rotting teeth.

The only reason I’m wageslaving is to stop wageslaving, it’s an utterly pointless life. Surgery both provides Copium and takes away from that goal.

 

[nishka]

If your teeth are relatively straight anyway you may not even need braces.
The other thing that can hold you up is if you have things like periodontal disease or rotting teeth.

The only reason I’m wageslaving is to stop wageslaving, it’s an utterly pointless life. Surgery both provides Copium and takes away from that goal.

i dont have either of those so thats good
listen bro wage slaving is just part of life no what matters is how you allocate that capital you can waste it or buy a car or do something you really want and risk it all and if its botched at least you had something to work towards. honestly

 

[nishka]

If your teeth are relatively straight anyway you may not even need braces.
The other thing that can hold you up is if you have things like periodontal disease or rotting teeth.

The only reason I’m wageslaving is to stop wageslaving, it’s an utterly pointless life. Surgery both provides Copium and takes away from that goal.

also why do people get surgeries and dont even lose body fat ughhh
i really hope i can get something done and show REAL results because i am always at 12%

 

[Foreverbrad]

i dont have either of those so thats good
listen bro wage slaving is just part of life no what matters is how you allocate that capital you can waste it or buy a car or do something you really want and risk it all and if its botched at least you had something to work towards. honestly

You invest until you have enough to live off passive income and not wageslave. Nothing I could possibly buy would compensate me for the agony of the hours spend wageslaving to buy it - except possibly surgery.

It would be better to live off NEETbux but the UK is very harsh about that.

 

[Greyascension]

We're poor bhai

 

[Prøphet]

1. It is physically painful and recovery can be a downright grueling miserable process with some of the implants and osteotomies in general + fears of death or injury. It’s not really intuitive to spend money on something that will hurt you if you don’t understand the benefits of being good looking (and no one truly does until they are good looking) so it’s a leap of faith

2. Normies have misconceptions and think any plastic surgery will make you look like a 40 year old Hollywood Becky who has 100ml of filler

3. You’re paying the price of a nice car for something that normies don’t udnerstand the benefits of. The average normie thinks a car or a good 401k or a new wardrobe/nice apartment etc will be more useful than your face, because bluepilled platitudes brainwash them with these ideas

 

[nishka]

1. beauty is pain ahh comment. if girls can do it so can we hahah
2. hard agree
3. hard agree

1. It is physically painful and recovery can be a downright grueling miserable process with some of the implants and osteotomies in general + fears of death or injury. It’s not really intuitive to spend money on something that will hurt you if you don’t understand the benefits of being good looking (and no one truly does until they are good looking) so it’s a leap of faith

2. Normies have misconceptions and think any plastic surgery will make you look like a 40 year old Hollywood Becky who has 100ml of filler

3. You’re paying the price of a nice car for something that normies don’t udnerstand the benefits of. The average normie thinks a car or a good 401k or a new wardrobe/nice apartment etc will be more useful than your face, because bluepilled platitudes brainwash them with these ideas