Is it more dangerous to have the wrong people in power, or the wrong people reproducing?

[imontheloose]

You may say this is linked to a degree, whilst true, I'm trying to imply, do you fear immediate corruption from above, or slow decline from below? Is bad leadership the cause of decay, or a symptom of a decaying population?

The wrong people in power can cause immediate damage obviously: starting wars, collapsing economies, destroying institutions. But their time is often short. Leaders die. Regimes fall. Power transfers. More a political threat. Whereas the wrong people reproducing is about who shapes the gene pool. It's slower than political shifts, yet seemingly irreversible: once you get these traits inherited en masse, they're hard to eliminate. The biological threat.

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@Jason Voorhees @PsychoH @wishIwasSalludon @DR. NICKGA @Gargantuan

 

[trenace450]

The jews

 

[TheLightOfMyLife]

Obviously people from above. You could probably kill 99% of ethnic children within a year if you just legalized child abuse

 

[DR. NICKGA]

Defeating one wrong people is easy (like a leader)

Defeating 10000+ wrong peoples is very very difficult, i am a strong believer in genes. Yes in genes. 10000+ with barbaric bad genes will cause disasters we never ever experienced in our lifetime

I dont think you even can recover from it..

 

[DR. NICKGA]

I am curious about the future. I dont know what is gonna happen

But its not gonna end well

 

[incel-at-heart]

You may say this is linked to a degree, whilst true, I'm trying to imply, do you fear immediate corruption from above, or slow decline from below? Is bad leadership the cause of decay, or a symptom of a decaying population?

The wrong people in power can cause immediate damage obviously: starting wars, collapsing economies, destroying institutions. But their time is often short. Leaders die. Regimes fall. Power transfers. More a political threat. Whereas the wrong people reproducing is about who shapes the gene pool. It's slower than political shifts, yet seemingly irreversible: once you get these traits inherited en masse, they're hard to eliminate. The biological threat.

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@Jason Voorhees @PsychoH @wishIwasSalludon @DR. NICKGA @Gargantuan

Wrong people in power can eradicate desirable genes and entire populations, see Zelensky.

Generations of breeding subhumans can destroy the gene pool to such a degree that recovery through natural selection becomes borderline impossible.

The worst thing that can happen to a people is its genetic death. Whether by a malevolent leader or by dysgenics is almost irrelevant.

 

[imontheloose]

Defeating one wrong people is easy (like a leader)

Defeating 10000+ wrong peoples is very very difficult, i am a strong believer in genes. Yes in genes. 10000+ with barbaric bad genes will cause disasters we never ever experienced in our lifetime

I dont think you even can recover from it..

Removing a bad leader is tactical, but cleansing a degenerate population is strategic. A single traitor can easily be replaced. 10000 subhumans reproducing, voting, and spreading their inferiority is a rot that you cannot simply undo.

Genes are destiny. Once the racial foundation is weakened, no constitution, no speech, no army can save the people it's affected. You can't build an empire on bad blood.

Biological renewal is what we need in my eyes, not political revolution.

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

That’s a really hard one I’m going to have to think about it and then I’ll get back to you

 

[imontheloose]

That’s a really hard one I’m going to have to think about it and then I’ll get back to you

Sounds good.

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

Removing a bad leader is tactical, but cleansing a degenerate population is strategic. A single traitor can easily be replaced. 10000 subhumans reproducing, voting, and spreading their inferiority is a rot that you cannot simply undo.

Genes are destiny. Once the racial foundation is weakened, no constitution, no speech, no army can save the people it's affected. You can't build an empire on bad blood.

Biological renewal is what we need in my eyes, not political revolution.

How are you suppose to implement eugenicist policies without political change?

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Yeah, bad leaders are a problem. One retars at the top can crash an economy, start a war, in record time. But those kinds of disasters usually burn hot and fast. Eventually, the leader dies gets overthrown o4 just fades out Power rotates. Systems adapt. Political decay is real but it's usually noisy and temporary.

What really is hard to fix isn’t who’s in charge but who is being born. Like imagine the kind of people who are shaping the next few generations. If the least capable, least disciplined, least future minded people are having the most kids and the more thoughtful, intelligent, stable people aren’t reproducing that’s not a blip. That’s a permanent shift in the population's baseline.

And unlike political disasters this kind of slow genetic or behavioral decline is almost invisible day-to-day. You don’t notice it until suddenly the average citizen can’t maintain the systems their ancestors built. Infrastructure crumbles, institutions stop working everything feels dumber and more chaotic. And it’s not because someone at the top messed up it’s because the whole base got hollowed out.

 

[imontheloose]

How are you suppose to implement eugenicist policies without political change?

Badly worded, sorry. I'm referencing political change as a tool, not the mission. The mistake of modern movements is to treat revolution as the goal. But what is the point if you use it to protect weakness, subsidise degeneracy, and enshrine equality?

Sure, we need political transformation/revolution, but it's not political in spirit, it's biological in purpose. A revolution that won't put racial and genetic health first is another cycle of failure in new colours.

My answer is: we use political change as a weapon, but we measure its success via biological outcomes and not by slogans. Power is only useful if it is wielded to cleanse and uplift the bloodline in my eyes.

 

[DR. NICKGA]

Wrong people in power can eradicate desirable genes and entire populations, see Zelensky.

Generations of breeding subhumans can destroy the gene pool to such a degree that recovery through natural selection becomes borderline impossible.

The worst thing that can happen to a people is its genetic death. Whether by a malevolent leader or by dysgenics is almost irrelevant.

Removing a bad leader is tactical, but cleansing a degenerate population is strategic. A single traitor can easily be replaced. 10000 subhumans reproducing, voting, and spreading their inferiority is a rot that you cannot simply undo.

Genes are destiny. Once the racial foundation is weakened, no constitution, no speech, no army can save the people it's affected. You can't build an empire on bad blood.

Biological renewal is what we need in my eyes, not political revolution.

The worst thing is, you cannot do anything about it
You cannot set any laws, for example make a law in france. Where more kids = more money

Only poor degenerate people gonna use this law as advantage, no smart people is gonna use this law

The culture itself needs to change
the beliefs of the people need to change, i mean go ask a 25 year old young smart france male. They are not even thinking about getting children.. just to achieve work goals

The end of this century, i predict a total culture annihilation will happen in every country

 

[neurosis]

The worst thing is, you cannot do anything about it
You cannot set any laws

well, you can

just make not having a certain amount kids a crime lol. if the people revolt, the people revolt.

The end of this century, i predict a total culture annihilation will happen in every country

either way your nation is fucked so who cares

 

[imontheloose]

Yeah, bad leaders are a problem. One retars at the top can crash an economy, start a war, in record time. But those kinds of disasters usually burn hot and fast. Eventually, the leader dies gets overthrown o4 just fades out Power rotates. Systems adapt. Political decay is real but it's usually noisy and temporary.

What really is hard to fix is me isn’t who’s in charge but who is being born. Like imagine the kind of people who are shaping the next few generations. If the least capable, least disciplined, least future minded people are having the most kids and the more thoughtful, intelligent, stable people aren’t reproducing that’s not a blip. That’s a permanent shift in the population's baseline.

And unlike political disasters this kind of slow genetic or behavioral decline is almost invisible day-to-day. You don’t notice it until suddenly the average citizen can’t maintain the systems their ancestors built. Infrastructure crumbles, institutions stop working everything feels dumber and more chaotic. And it’s not because someone at the top messed up it’s because the whole base got hollowed out.

Spot on. I like this a lot. Leadership disasters are loud and visible, but a degraded gene pool is silent and slow, by the time it's noticed, it is WAY too late. You can rebuild the palace after it's bombed, but you can't rebuild the nation once its people can no longer think, plan, or build, so to say.

A state that lets the undisciplined, impulsive, and unfit multiply unchecked is committing suicide in slow motion. What looks like societal dysfunction is really biological entropy.

The fall of empires is never begun via foreign invasion, rather when the average citizen is no longer capable of maintaining the civilisation he inherited.

Again, once this is noticed, the rot is already generational.

 

[incel-at-heart]

If the least capable, least disciplined, least future minded people are having the most kids and the more thoughtful, intelligent, stable people aren’t reproducing that’s not a blip. That’s a permanent shift in the population's baseline.

Agreed, but isn't this the result of bad policies? The reason billions of subhumans are polluting our planet is because White people poured aid into every shithole on the planet. So these shitholes are overflowing, and the same subhumans we have seeded 30 years ago are migrating to greener pastures (the West).

And instead of closing our borders and teaching whitoids the reality of these savages, our politicians created a system that rewards them for being jobless child factories, while normal White people can afford only 2 children with both parents working.

Political/educational/medial "leaders" have turned the West into multiracial warzones. A single ruthless chud dictator in any given Westcuck country could gas all subhumans in the West and then the genetic issue would also be solved.

 

[imontheloose]

The worst thing is, you cannot do anything about it
You cannot set any laws, for example make a law in france. Where more kids = more money

Only poor degenerate people gonna use this law as advantage, no smart people is gonna use this law

The culture itself needs to change
the beliefs of the people need to change, i mean go ask a 25 year old young smart france male. They are not even thinking about getting children.. just to achieve work goals

The end of this century, i predict a total culture annihilation will happen in every country

Half-right. The culture is broken, but the culture isn't some abstract cloud that just shifts on its own. It reflects the people who create and sustain it. If the only ones reproducing are weak and short-sighted then of course the culture will decay. That isn't just bad values, that's simply bad stock.

You can't fix it with laws alone and you definitely can't fix it by waiting for beliefs to magically change. You have to start with the bloodline.

Change who is born, and the culture will follow.

 

[incel-at-heart]

The worst thing is, you cannot do anything about it
You cannot set any laws, for example make a law in france. Where more kids = more money

Only poor degenerate people gonna use this law as advantage, no smart people is gonna use this law

The culture itself needs to change
the beliefs of the people need to change, i mean go ask a 25 year old young smart france male. They are not even thinking about getting children.. just to achieve work goals

The end of this century, i predict a total culture annihilation will happen in every country

The political solution is total abolishment of the welfare state and massively lower taxes, while still enforcing laws.

Incentivize honest work. No government handouts, no subsidies, no loopholes that jews can abuse.

You work for your money, every day. If you can thus afford 5 children - great. If you cannot, because you are an unemployable subhuman that has been on welfare for the last 5 years, then that becomes your problem.

 

[Newday*V3]

Wrong people in power (jews) are the reason why people are so weak and ill with the modern diet, and we don’t have the wrong people reproducing, no one is reproducing at all due to jews making modern life more career focused, you’d be lucky to own a house with a job at 20, most people will never become independent until 24 and even at that will struggle with money and have no time to enjoy anything or get a girlfriend

 

[Gargantuan]

Can make a case for both but people really underestimate the impact of the mindset and the collective soul of the population.
Ultimately, the collective soul of a nation dictates the type of leaders/government the people deserve.
And when the blood of a nation keeps reproducing along the lines of being dysgenic, blind, compliant, incapable of questioning etc. then they 'deserve' the leaders that they get because the soil’s already poisoned.

There is an occult concept called karmic retribution, meaning that the elites have to tell us what they're planning to do before they do it with the idea of allowing us to subconsciously notice these hints through the media and whatnot, giving them ''permission'' to do whatever they want to do to us, this is tacit consent.
When certain defective traits are bred into the DNA, you’re locked into a terminal decline. Not a political collapse, but a literal biological downgrade resulting in a defective species.

I viewed COVID as a test for example, it was about seeing who deserves to remain and who doesn't and the elites wanted to see who would kneel and breed decay and who were worth keeping afloat, because they saw through the lies and didn't give consent.
Those who refused, you could argue, were resisting extinction.
That's when, quite possibly, humanity split into 2, as Rudolf Steiner predicted a hundred years ago:

 

[PsychoH]

You may say this is linked to a degree, whilst true, I'm trying to imply, do you fear immediate corruption from above, or slow decline from below? Is bad leadership the cause of decay, or a symptom of a decaying population?

The wrong people in power can cause immediate damage obviously: starting wars, collapsing economies, destroying institutions. But their time is often short. Leaders die. Regimes fall. Power transfers. More a political threat. Whereas the wrong people reproducing is about who shapes the gene pool. It's slower than political shifts, yet seemingly irreversible: once you get these traits inherited en masse, they're hard to eliminate. The biological threat.

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@Jason Voorhees @PsychoH @wishIwasSalludon @DR. NICKGA @Gargantuan

Both are happening at the same time rn.
Wrong (Jews) people in power—> want to make people more fit to be mindless slaves.
—> wrong people reproduce.

 

[ShowerCelling]

You may say this is linked to a degree, whilst true, I'm trying to imply, do you fear immediate corruption from above, or slow decline from below? Is bad leadership the cause of decay, or a symptom of a decaying population?

The wrong people in power can cause immediate damage obviously: starting wars, collapsing economies, destroying institutions. But their time is often short. Leaders die. Regimes fall. Power transfers. More a political threat. Whereas the wrong people reproducing is about who shapes the gene pool. It's slower than political shifts, yet seemingly irreversible: once you get these traits inherited en masse, they're hard to eliminate. The biological threat.

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@Jason Voorhees @PsychoH @wishIwasSalludon @DR. NICKGA @Gargantuan

the people in power of course, they could force genetic engineering or eugenics if they wanted

 

[manIetmachine]

mirin high iq thread, incel

 

[imontheloose]

Can make a case for both but people really underestimate the impact of the mindset and the collective soul of the population.
Ultimately, the collective soul of a nation dictates the type of leaders/government the people deserve.
And when the blood of a nation keeps reproducing along the lines of being dysgenic, blind, compliant, incapable of questioning etc. then they 'deserve' the leaders that they get because the soil’s already poisoned.

There is an occult concept called karmic retribution, meaning that the elites have to tell us what they're planning to do before they do it with the idea of allowing us to subconsciously notice these hints through the media and whatnot, giving them ''permission'' to do whatever they want to do to us, this is tacit consent.
When certain defective traits are bred into the DNA, you’re locked into a terminal decline. Not a political collapse, but a literal biological downgrade resulting in a defective species.

I viewed COVID as a test for example, it was about seeing who deserves to remain and who doesn't and the elites wanted to see who would kneel and breed decay and who were worth keeping afloat, because they saw through the lies and didn't give consent.
Those who refused, you could argue, were resisting extinction.
That's when, quite possibly, humanity split into 2, as Rudolf Steiner predicted a hundred years ago:
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Bang on. A population that reproduces weakness will absolutely invite weak leaders, just as bad soil grows sick trees. But where we differ is in this idea of waiting for karmic revolution or hidden elite games. There is no occult permission required to me.

What you're calling "tacit consent" is just what happens when a people becomes too comfortable, too decayed, too diluted to resist. They stop deserving better because they've become biologically incapable of striving for more. But fate won't fix that, policy does. Action does. Eugenics does.

The elites may play games with their fantasy symbols and whatnot, but a healthy people wouldn't fall for their rubbish in the first place. Fix the blood, and their lies stop working.