is it my cheekbones or my orbital that are recessed ? (or both?)

[agoostis]

i have the really low and wide type of cheekbones (kinda like depp) and from front i have scleral show, dark and hollow undereyes and crazy naso fold+jowls

what should i get to fix all that at once ? infra implant/infra filler or malar implant/cheek filler ?

 

[ripcordgod1]

ur entire maxilla is recessed and down grown

 

[agoostis]

ur entire maxilla is recessed and down grown

are u sure ? my gonial angle is pretty low

 

[ripcordgod1]

are u sure ? my gonial angle is pretty low

ur maxilla is down grown u probably have big ass teeth or a gummy smile, check rn

 

[St.TikTokcel]

i have the really low and wide type of cheekbones (kinda like depp) and from front i have scleral show, dark and hollow undereyes and crazy naso fold+jowls

what should i get to fix all that at once ? infra implant/infra filler or malar implant/cheek filler ?

Thin skin + recessed supra and infraorbital rims + inward growth.

 

[agoostis]

ur maxilla is down grown u probably have big ass teeth or a gummy smile, check rn

can only see tips of my teeth when i smile

how can i fix this ? when i talk you cant even see my upper teeth it looks retarded i posted my face and yall told me i dont have short face syndrome could it came from somewhere else ? any way to fix it or is bimax the only way?

looksmax.org

it’s the opposite i thought i had sfs for a while

 

[ripcordgod1]

can only see tips of my teeth when i smile

how can i fix this ? when i talk you cant even see my upper teeth it looks retarded i posted my face and yall told me i dont have short face syndrome could it came from somewhere else ? any way to fix it or is bimax the only way?

looksmax.org

it’s the opposite i though i had sfs for a while

no u dont have "sfs" u retard and ur teeth upper teeth are way too low caused by down grown maxilla and u have an overbite

ur gonial angle isn't low enough either you're down grown

 

[Deleted member 16220]

Infraorbitals and cheekbones lacking.

Highset browridge, projected midface and lefort 1 area of the lower maxilla. You probably have a typical African long mandible and flat non existent chin.

Hope this helps.

 

[Deleted member 17920]

no u dont have "sfs" u retard and ur teeth upper teeth are way too low caused by down grown maxilla and u have an overbite
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ur gonial angle isn't low enough either you're down grown

bro knows nothing

 

[ripcordgod1]

bro knows nothing

what did i not know?

 

[ripcordgod1]

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Infraorbitals and cheekbones lacking.

Highset browridge, projected midface and lefort 1 area of the lower maxilla. You probably have a typical African long mandible and flat non existent chin.

Hope this helps.

his entire maxilla top to bottom is recessed he has death tier naso folds

 

[agoostis]

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Infraorbitals and cheekbones lacking.

Highset browridge, projected midface and lefort 1 area of the lower maxilla. You probably have a typical African long mandible and flat non existent chin.

Hope this helps.

my supra are shit yeah
malar implant/filler or infra to project the midface?

no u dont have "sfs" u retard and ur teeth upper teeth are way too low caused by down grown maxilla and u have an overbite
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ur gonial angle isn't low enough either you're down grown

my gonial angle is low
anything lower would look like a cube
and u said i prolly have gummy smile caused by downgrown maxilla but we can barely see my teeth

 

[Deleted member 16220]

his entire maxilla top to bottom is recessed he has death tier naso folds

It's not recessed it's normal.
His lower maxilla is actually protruding. Nasolabial folds are just caused by either lack of support OR overprojected lower maxilla.

He's not recessed in the maxilla, at all. A bimax would ruin him because he practically already HAS a bimax.

 

[ripcordgod1]

my supra are shit yeah
malar implant/filler or infra to project the midface?


my gonial angle is low
anything lower would look like a cube
and u said i prolly have gummy smile caused by downgrown maxilla but we can barely see my teeth

ur gonial angle looks 110-115 that's about average and not low
having a low gonial angle won't necessarily make u look like a cube unless u have other shit features such as zygos 404, chin 404, etc
u have a down grown maxilla and it's severely recessed aswell, cut the cope look at ur big ass upper teeth and overbite probably even a deepbite u prob also have no chin since u always cover it

 

[Deleted member 16220]

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ur gonial angle looks 110-115 that's about average and not low
having a low gonial angle won't necessarily make u look like a cube unless u have other shit features such as zygos 404, chin 404, etc
u have a down grown maxilla and it's severely recessed aswell, cut the cope look at ur big ass upper teeth and overbite probably even a deepbite u prob also have no chin since u always cover it

You're wrong lol long ramus isn't always good. Normal ramus is better because you want the gonions to appear to be at the mouth from the front view. If you lengthen the ramus like he said, you become a cube from the front, which is true.

He's NOOOOTTT recessed. His lower maxilla is FORWARD. I don't know what you are telling him just lol.

 

[ripcordgod1]

It's not recessed it's normal.
His lower maxilla is actually protruding. Nasolabial folds are just caused by either lack of support OR overprojected lower maxilla.

He's not recessed in the maxilla, at all. A bimax would ruin him because he practically already HAS a bimax.

it's not protruding at all JFL that pic u edited is tilt frauded
how would a "overprojected" lower maxilla cause nasofolds jfl

 

[lelouch]

You're wrong lol long ramus isn't always good. Normal ramus is better because you want the gonions to appear to be at the mouth from the front view. If you lengthen the ramus like he said, you become a cube from the front, which is true.

He's NOOOOTTT recessed. His lower maxilla is FORWARD. I don't know what you are telling him just lol.

Yeah this is not big enough downward growth to call it that but it's obviously not the best double jaw development possible, which is giga rare anyway

 

[agoostis]

it's not protruding at all JFL that pic u edited is tilt frauded
how would a "overprojected" lower maxilla cause nasofolds jfl

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morph me with lower angle then
it would look shit as it’s already low

It's not recessed it's normal.
His lower maxilla is actually protruding. Nasolabial folds are just caused by either lack of support OR overprojected lower maxilla.

He's not recessed in the maxilla, at all. A bimax would ruin him because he practically already HAS a bimax.

i’ve seen two surgeons they refused me bimax anyway

how would if fix the lack of support/the overprotected lower maxilla (if that’s the reason)

 

[ripcordgod1]

You're wrong lol long ramus isn't always good. Normal ramus is better because you want the gonions to appear to be at the mouth from the front view. If you lengthen the ramus like he said, you become a cube from the front, which is true.

He's NOOOOTTT recessed. His lower maxilla is FORWARD. I don't know what you are telling him just lol.

nobody told him to lengthen his ramus lol he started talking about his gonial angle for some reason when that wasn't even what i was talking about in the first place

in this case his high gonial angle saves him because his mandible is shit and he has no zygos or chin

his lower maxilla is shit

 

[Deleted member 16220]

morph me with lower angle then
it would look shit as it’s already low


i’ve seen two surgeons they refused me bimax anyway

how would if fix the lack of support/the overprotected lower maxilla (if that’s the reason)

Your jaw is really good. You are NOT A FUCKING BIMAX CANDIDATE.

This retard above is claiming you're midface is recessed because of nasolabial folds. Which he's right, if you got some implants there it would go away, but you ARENT recessed it's normal.

Your eye area just isn't ideal but you actually have a lot of bone mass in the jaw and browridge just your browridge is highset and kind of open instead of compact. Infraorbitals and cheekbones are lacking as well causing you some under eye bulging.

You need NOTHING in the jaw trust me. Leave it alone. You won't even improve from fucking with it.

 

[ripcordgod1]

morph me with lower angle then
it would look shit as it’s already low


i’ve seen two surgeons they refused me bimax anyway

how would if fix the lack of support/the overprotected lower maxilla (if that’s the reason)

u have short mandible height

if i morphed u it wouldn't look bad or make a difference from the front, u don't look down grown from the front probably due to outward gonions

 

[Deleted member 16220]

u have short mandible height

if i morphed u it wouldn't look bad or make a difference from the front, u don't look down grown from the front

Short mandible is GOOD. You don't want mandible height you want a bow-shape where the mandible is curved in. His jaw is almost perfect. Stop trying to botch this fucking lucky guy just lol.

 

[ripcordgod1]

Your jaw is really good. You are NOT A FUCKING BIMAX CANDIDATE.

This retard above is claiming you're midface is recessed because of nasolabial folds. Which he's right, if you got some implants there it would go away, but you ARENT recessed it's normal.

Your eye area just isn't ideal but you actually have a lot of bone mass in the jaw and browridge just your browridge is highset and kind of open instead of compact. Infraorbitals and cheekbones are lacking as well causing you some under eye bulging.

You need NOTHING in the jaw trust me. Leave it alone. You won't even improve from fucking with it.

naso folds are not normal at all that and his undereyes are his biggest failos (maxillary projection overall)
his maxilla is also down grown, a lot of surgeons provide leforts with upward movements especially to fix occlusions or gummy smiles nobody knows what it is here for some reason

least of his worries is his jaw rn, i think he misunderstood what i meant by down grown maxilla

 

[ripcordgod1]

Short mandible is GOOD. You don't want mandible height you want a bow-shape where the mandible is curved in. His jaw is almost perfect. Stop trying to botch this fucking lucky guy just lol.

u gonna see that philtrum to chin ratio and tell me that short mandible is good

 

[agoostis]

Short mandible is GOOD. You don't want mandible height you want a bow-shape where the mandible is curved in. His jaw is almost perfect. Stop trying to botch this fucking lucky guy just lol.

thanks man so how would i fix naso fold and shit undereyes cuz it’s killing me pretty harshly tbh

fillers cant lift the skin? it’s like a malar implant that i need ?

 

[ripcordgod1]

A gummy smile is a result a deficient maxilla that grows vertically

No sclera should be showing above or below the iris. The maxilla makes up a large portion of the orbit of the eye. When the maxilla is deficient, it remains narrow and the soft palate grows long/vertically pulling the lower muscles of the eyes.
No sclera should be showing below the iris. The maxilla makes up a large portion of the orbit of the eyes. When the maxilla is narrow, the soft palate grows vertically pulling the lower muscles of the eyes down and exposing sclera.

When the outer corners of the eyes are lower than the inside corners, the eyes will have a “droopy” appearance. A wide maxilla gives support to the orbit of the eyes including the soft tissue around it; Therefore, a droopy-eyed appearance often indi…
A droopy-eyed appearance often indicates maxillary deficiency. When the outer corners of the eyes are lower than the inside corners, the eyes will have a “droopy” appearance. A wide maxilla gives support to the orbit of the eyes including the soft tissue around it.

Facial Development — Breathe Therapy

www.breathetherapy.net

here is what im talking about

idk why i need to explain this to low iq retards who cant do their own research and regurgitate bullshit off BOTB threads and shitty youtube videos
@Dr. Bruh @5'7 zoomer JFL at this thread lol

 

[agoostis]

A gummy smile is a result a deficient maxilla that grows vertically
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No sclera should be showing above or below the iris. The maxilla makes up a large portion of the orbit of the eye. When the maxilla is deficient, it remains narrow and the soft palate grows long/vertically pulling the lower muscles of the eyes.
No sclera should be showing below the iris. The maxilla makes up a large portion of the orbit of the eyes. When the maxilla is narrow, the soft palate grows vertically pulling the lower muscles of the eyes down and exposing sclera.

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When the outer corners of the eyes are lower than the inside corners, the eyes will have a “droopy” appearance. A wide maxilla gives support to the orbit of the eyes including the soft tissue around it; Therefore, a droopy-eyed appearance often indi…
A droopy-eyed appearance often indicates maxillary deficiency. When the outer corners of the eyes are lower than the inside corners, the eyes will have a “droopy” appearance. A wide maxilla gives support to the orbit of the eyes including the soft tissue around it.

Facial Development — Breathe Therapy

www.breathetherapy.net

here is what im talking about

idk why i need to explain this to low iq retards who cant do their own research and regurgitate bullshit off BOTB threads and shitty youtube videos
@Dr. Bruh @5'7 zoomer JFL at this thread lol

i should have a gummy smile then?

 

[ripcordgod1]

i should have a gummy smile then?

idk i cant tell from 2 shitty pictures of u barely smiling, but ur maxilla may not be extremely down grown usually that's what causes gummy smiles

but it's down grown enough that u have what looks like a deep bite of some sort, also contributes to the short mandible
did ur dentist say u have an overbite or deepbite? u never answered that question either

ask an ortho about it

 

[agoostis]

idk i cant tell from 2 shitty pictures of u barely smiling, but ur maxilla may not be extremely down grown usually that's what causes gummy smiles

but it's down grown enough that u have what looks like a deep bite of some sort, also contributes to the short mandible
did ur dentist say u have an overbite or deepbite? u never answered that question either

ask an ortho about it

slight overbite

 

[ripcordgod1]

slight overbite

correct ur bite and talk to ur ortho about possible a deep bite and a down grown maxilla maybe he can suggest lefort 1 (for upwards movement) if it seems to be the case

after ur bite is fixed, ur mandible should look taller and more projected, u could finish off with a bimax if ur chin is still recessed after bite correction, saddled undereye and paranasal implants to fix the recessed upper maxilla

 

[Deleted member 29724]

You're wrong lol long ramus isn't always good. Normal ramus is better because you want the gonions to appear to be at the mouth from the front view. If you lengthen the ramus like he said, you become a cube from the front, which is true.

He's NOOOOTTT recessed. His lower maxilla is FORWARD. I don't know what you are telling him just lol.

how to brind upper maxilla in align with lower maxilla no implants fillers like actully moving the bone so it doesnt give that chimp look.

 

[Deleted member 16220]

how to brind upper maxilla in align with lower maxilla no implants fillers like actully moving the bone so it doesnt give that chimp look.

You can't. If the lower maxilla is so forward that it's giving the chimp look nothing can be done. In theory you could do midface implants, rhino, massive implants around the eyes but I think it would look way too uncanny.

You cannot fix it, just cope with it. It's not that big of a deal though because it's a typical African trait and black men still reproduce to this day so obviously it's somewhat fine.

 

[Deleted member 29724]

You can't. If the lower maxilla is so forward that it's giving the chimp look nothing can be done. In theory you could do midface implants, rhino, massive implants around the eyes but I think it would look way too uncanny.

You cannot fix it, just cope with it. It's not that big of a deal though because it's a typical African trait and black men still reproduce to this day so obviously it's somewhat fine.

me personaly i would never do implants im only moving bone. But thanks for the ressurance man

 

[Deleted member 1901]

ur entire maxilla is recessed and down grown

 

[Deleted member 27836]

ur entire maxilla is recessed and down grown

 

[VenatorLuparius]

In before Opie goes wasting 20K on an unnecessary bimax after being diagnosticized by a bunch of autistic teenagers. JFL

 

[Rate_My_Face]

You can't. If the lower maxilla is so forward that it's giving the chimp look nothing can be done. In theory you could do midface implants, rhino, massive implants around the eyes but I think it would look way too uncanny.

You cannot fix it, just cope with it. It's not that big of a deal though because it's a typical African trait and black men still reproduce to this day so obviously it's somewhat fine.

dude, can you make it possible to DM you? youre high IQ

 

[Deleted member 20631]

Just get infraobrital + paranasal implants and call it a day JFL. I don’t understand how you’d even consider bimax with a jaw like that

 

[Deleted member 16220]

Just get infraobrital + paranasal implants and call it a day JFL. I don’t understand how you’d even consider bimax with a jaw like that

He doesn't actually need bimax in fact he would benefit from REVERSING the lefort 1 area a bit.

He actually would benefit from a vertical genioplasty.

Doesn't need it but it would mog harder. It's sad this world has become the way it is that only the top 1% of men can succeed in dating so we all have to cut our faces open.

I think it's an illusion, i think even if we got these super hypergamous women they would eventually fuck us over in the end anyways. I think dating is done in the west entirely. These women aren't here to be wives, they want to be whores for men they can't even obtain. And those men they want, the top 1%? They would leave them too if a bigger Chad came along.

Women just chase genetic perfection, nothing else. It's done for.

 

[Deleted member 20631]

He doesn't actually need bimax in fact he would benefit from REVERSING the lefort 1 area a bit.

He actually would benefit from a vertical genioplasty.

Doesn't need it but it would mog harder. It's sad this world has become the way it is that only the top 1% of men can succeed in dating so we all have to cut our faces open.

I think it's an illusion, i think even if we got these super hypergamous women they would eventually fuck us over in the end anyways. I think dating is done in the west entirely. These women aren't here to be wives, they want to be whores for men they can't even obtain. And those men they want, the top 1%? They would leave them too if a bigger Chad came along.

Women just chase genetic perfection, nothing else. It's done for.

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I was thinking the same thing a vertical genio would do wonders for him.

And looking at him had me thinking if it was possible to move the ANS without also moving the Lower Maxilla/Lefort 1 with it, maybe even call it a Lefort 0.5 JFL

Yeah dating in the west is so over, I’m going to max out my potential in regards to my physique, career and face then just look to get married with a girl who shares the same values as me and is a virgin.
Trying to turn a western girl into a wife is like trying to turn coal into diamond.

Hedonism is just too rampant in western society.

 

[Werther]

i have the really low and wide type of cheekbones (kinda like depp) and from front i have scleral show, dark and hollow undereyes and crazy naso fold+jowls

what should i get to fix all that at once ? infra implant/infra filler or malar implant/cheek filler ?

Recessed upper maxilla, both.