Is it normal to give up on women, relationships, family, kids, as a 28yo?!

[MoggerGaston]

Title.

I have had almost no success with women whatsoever in my life. Women keep on treating me like I am some ugly subhuman creature, all my life.

Increasingly I find myself uninterested in relationships or interacting at all with women. I don't see myself ever having a family, kids.

wondering how older forum members think about this transition @OldRooster

 

[TechnoBoss]

Title.

I have had almost no success with women whatsoever in my life. Women keep on treating me like I am some ugly subhuman creature, all my life.

Increasingly I find myself uninterested in relationships or interacting at all with women. I don't see myself ever having a family, kids.

wondering how older forum members think about this transition @OldRooster

I don't think you should give up that soon. Honestly I don't know what to say because you're good looking (a lot of people on this forum think that too but I won't try and convince you or anything) so it leads me to believe that there's a lot of leftover trauma that you haven't dealt with. You're a cool dude too so being cool & having good looks is basically all you need so I can't suggest you giving up on forming relationships with women.

I'm telling you I think your location is cucking you because it seems like NL is just filled with gigachad. I'd probably be a virgin if I lived there to be honest. Come to America and slay.

 

[ReadBooksEveryday]

You need to go back to your slav homeland, it’s your only hope to start a family and live well off.

Dutch women want big skulled Dutch moggers and have Hitler like standards. Many incel are experiencing this in Sweden too

Breed with your own kind is the most supreme theory. And the most mainstream for a reason.

Now set free Ivanov, Juliana awaits you!

 

[HTN_Mentalcel]

Dutch women want big skulled Dutch moggers and have Hitler like standards.

AFALT (All foids are like that)

 

[the BULL]

You need to go back to your slav homeland, it’s your only hope to start a family and live well off.

Dutch women want big skulled Dutch moggers and have Hitler like standards. Many incel are experiencing this in Sweden too

Breed with your own kind is the most supreme theory. And the most mainstream for a reason.

Now set free Ivanov, Juliana awaits you!

He's half Dutch and looks nordic

 

[hopecel]

Title.

I have had almost no success with women whatsoever in my life. Women keep on treating me like I am some ugly subhuman creature, all my life.

Increasingly I find myself uninterested in relationships or interacting at all with women. I don't see myself ever having a family, kids.

wondering how older forum members think about this transition @OldRooster

I don't think you should give up that soon. Honestly I don't know what to say because you're good looking (a lot of people on this forum think that too but I won't try and convince you or anything) so it leads me to believe that there's a lot of leftover trauma that you haven't dealt with. You're a cool dude too so being cool & having good looks is basically all you need so I can't suggest you giving up on forming relationships with women.

I'm telling you I think your location is cucking you because it seems like NL is just filled with gigachad. I'd probably be a virgin if I lived there to be honest. Come to America and slay.

You need to go back to your slav homeland, it’s your only hope to start a family and live well off.

Dutch women want big skulled Dutch moggers and have Hitler like standards. Many incel are experiencing this in Sweden too

Breed with your own kind is the most supreme theory. And the most mainstream for a reason.

Now set free Ivanov, Juliana awaits you!

AFALT (All foids are like that)

He's half Dutch and looks nordic

 

[Debetro]

How would they cope?

 

[try2beme]

Its normal lowkey

 

[St.TikTokcel]

You need to go back to your slav homeland, it’s your only hope to start a family and live well off.

Dutch women want big skulled Dutch moggers and have Hitler like standards. Many incel are experiencing this in Sweden too

Breed with your own kind is the most supreme theory. And the most mainstream for a reason.

Now set free Ivanov, Juliana awaits you!

The best thing for a slavcel to do is to leave slavistan shitholes. Ideally, destination should be the USA.

 

[researcher888]

Same age here and ill never give up but im not a failure

 

[the BULL]

Its normal lowkey

It's not, bottom 20% trait

 

[try2beme]

It's not, bottom 20% trait

To not have one yeah

To not want one, is normal and easily justified in these times

 

[MoggerGaston]

I don't think you should give up that soon. Honestly I don't know what to say because you're good looking (a lot of people on this forum think that too but I won't try and convince you or anything) so it leads me to believe that there's a lot of leftover trauma that you haven't dealt with. You're a cool dude too so being cool & having good looks is basically all you need so I can't suggest you giving up on forming relationships with women.

The question is whether past trauma is even something you can possibly ever overcome.
I am already in the ward for 10-15 hours a week for extensive therapy, and for now I don't feel like it's helping.

So it may be over.

I'm telling you I think your location is cucking you because it seems like NL is just filled with gigachad. I'd probably be a virgin if I lived there to be honest. Come to America and slay.

I will come to america one day bhai, but not to slay chicks. Women aren't worth my time and effort.

 

[MoggerGaston]

You need to go back to your slav homeland, it’s your only hope to start a family and live well off.

Dutch women want big skulled Dutch moggers and have Hitler like standards. Many incel are experiencing this in Sweden too

Breed with your own kind is the most supreme theory. And the most mainstream for a reason.

Now set free Ivanov, Juliana awaits you!

Man I wish I wasn't raised in the netherlands, but rather in Poland.

The transition is brutal now.

 

[MoggerGaston]

It's not, bottom 20% trait

am I bottom 20%?

 

[researcher888]

Man I wish I wasn't raised in the netherlands, but rather in Poland.

The transition is brutal now.

its actually good advice for you. you will never fit into a germanic society with slav genes, this is actually the core of the problem. you need to learn polish, go to a university there and you'll find a girl easy. but you rather do drugs in a foreign land

 

[HTN_Mentalcel]

How would they cope?

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[HTN_Mentalcel]

its actually good advice for you. you will never fit into a germanic society with slav genes, this is actually the core of the problem. you need to learn polish, go to a university there and you'll find a girl easy. but you rather do drugs in a foreign land

America accepts everyone, slavs wouldnt really be discriminated much there at all.

 

[Debetro]

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Sleep deprivation causes me to make stupid statements, similar when drunk. I should be grateful of my genetics

 

[glaruz]

It is nothing more than a cope that will chain and restrict you from the real salvation and solution to all problems: hedo overdose, ldar and rope.

 

[Sprinkles]

don’t worry bro, you’ll hit your prime when you turn 30. then the girls will be all over you and ready to settle down.

 

[TUSSELEIF]

It’s not something I’d give up on, I’d wait at least until 38, but it’s not something I would focus on either. I’d rather focus on other things. Maybe you could find a decent looking wife in a Slavic country or some shit, Netherlands and Scandinavia is nightmare mode

 

[the BULL]

don’t worry bro, you’ll hit your prime when you turn 30. then the girls will be all over you and ready to settle down.

this but unironically. people like OP hit their prime late when they're sufficiently mature.

 

[standardcel]

At 40+ it’s time to give up

 

[watah]

If you really want a family that bad just go back to Poland and meet a woman

 

[Britmaxxer]

Title.

I have had almost no success with women whatsoever in my life. Women keep on treating me like I am some ugly subhuman creature, all my life.

Increasingly I find myself uninterested in relationships or interacting at all with women. I don't see myself ever having a family, kids.

wondering how older forum members think about this transition @OldRooster

it is not rare, in fact, it is unusual not to feel this way. I am in mid 20's (23-27) and feel this way. I now only see a relationship as a financial investment in return for advancing my genetic line.

I don't feel any motivation to interact with women just for the sake of 'having a gf' instead, I think of what my children might be like, how it might advance my life. I think of if it will be helpful to have them around in old age so I don't rope from loneliness, and if I can benefit them in the same way. I don't really think of the pussy aspect. I purchased an onahole lately and busted a nut that made me cross my eyes. I can keep doing this until I find a suitable mate to invest effort into.

what would be concerning, is if you do not feel the desire to secure your legacy or secure some company for your twilight years. That is a sign of depression.

luckily if you are no longer 'motivated to meet women' you have bandwidth free to moneymaxx and improve your own health. then when you need to have a wife, you are highly over-levelled and can go abroad, or secure a local low tier woman to handle this life aspect.

the post where you mention being in a psych ward at 28 is seriously concerning. you need to make a plan for the future, and a path to getting some money.

 

[LevantinePsycho]

Some retard troll on discord told me "I feel sorry for you" when I said I don't want to be married

 

[LevantinePsycho]

Some retard troll on discord told me "I feel sorry for you" when I said I don't want to be married

 

[Bomber517]

Come to Kazakhstan, brother. I will get you a cute hapa gf.

 

[Vermilioncore]

Lucky for me, pussy seems me out. Unluckily for me, fright also seeks me.

 

[LevantinePsycho]

Some retard troll on discord told me "I feel sorry for you" when I said I don't want to be married

 

[_MVP_]

absolutely normal

im the same

 

[_MVP_]

Some retard troll on discord told me "I feel sorry for you" when I said I don't want to be married

reported for spam

 

[LevantinePsycho]

reported for spam

This site lags, not my problem

 

[Darkeningstar]

I gave it up a couple of years ago, and I'm 24. Probably I can't afford a long-term relationship, or a family

 

[MostGLSlayer]

2 more years and it’ll be too late.

 

[LevantinePsycho]

reported for spam

If I get warned I will beat you with a steel pipe

 

[MoggerGaston]

the post where you mention being in a psych ward at 28 is seriously concerning. you need to make a plan for the future, and a path to getting some money.

i dont see a way out of here

 

[MoggerGaston]

Some retard troll on discord told me "I feel sorry for you" when I said I don't want to be married

wanting to be married sounds incredibly cucked. you are right

 

[MoggerGaston]

Come to Kazakhstan, brother. I will get you a cute hapa gf.

my man, I need to visit you

 

[MoggerGaston]

I gave it up a couple of years ago, and I'm 24. Probably I can't afford a long-term relationship, or a family

women have too high standards, I can't see myself ever stressing myself out so much every day to fullfill them

 

[MoggerGaston]

2 more years and it’ll be too late.

30s are the new 20s

 

[MoggerGaston]

If you really want a family that bad just go back to Poland and meet a woman

they didnt like me

 

[LevantinePsycho]

wanting to be married sounds incredibly cucked. you are right

It was a Mexican 5'6 normie tryhard kike who liked to make me even more miserable. His shtick was that he appeared in this community once every few months, disappears after two weeks and then comes back

 

[Darkeningstar]

I can't see myself ever stressing myself out so much every day to fullfill them

Not related to you, but being effectively non-nt is detrimental in the long run.

 

[MoggerGaston]

Not related to you, but being effectively non-nt is detrimental in the long run.

it's not a voluntary choice to be like that

 

[Foreverbrad]

Yea after 50 slays I no longer find the juice worth the squeeze.

All these women have been wretched, mentally ill, LTB or below sluts.

however I will still get surgery because perhaps having access to hotter women (YES, 31yo me with surgeries will mog 24yo virgin me) will restore my interest for a time

Might even find the legendary virgin NP girl

 

[Darkeningstar]

it's not a voluntary choice to be like that

Exactly what I was saying.

 

[MoggerGaston]

Yea after 50 slays I no longer find the juice worth the squeeze.

All these women have been wretched, mentally ill, LTB or below sluts.

however I will still get surgery because perhaps having access to hotter women (YES, 31yo me with surgeries will mog 24yo virgin me) will restore my interest for a time

Might even find the legendary virgin NP girl

i find women my age attractive (28yo), it's just that their personalities are HORRIBLE.

only young women have good personalities

 

[Foreverbrad]

i find women my age attractive (28yo), it's just that their personalities are HORRIBLE.

only young women have good personalities

I can agree with that. They’re not necessarily off the table but you’ll either need to figure out a permanent age fraud method or have lots of money. Or ideally both.