Is it possible to ascend from sub 5 to htn

[zombiesaresocool]

With good / mid bone structure without surgery

 

[ZygolessBum]

With good / mid bone structure without surgery

You dont have a good or mid bone structure if you are sub 5 so stop coping for your own good, if you want good results you have to be honest, your bone stucture is in the range of horrible-bad, and it depends how severe your flaws are, its not completely impossible but i would say the max is sub-5 to HMTN

 

[sickofitall]

You dont have a good or mid bone structure if you are sub 5 so stop coping for your own good, if you want good results you have to be honest, your bone stucture is in the range of horrible-bad, and it depends how severe your flaws are, its not completely impossible but i would say the max is sub-5 to HMTN

depeneds on eye area and jaw past hmtn

 

[ntstephn]

You dont have a good or mid bone structure if you are sub 5 so stop coping for your own good, if you want good results you have to be honest, your bone stucture is in the range of horrible-bad, and it depends how severe your flaws are, its not completely impossible but i would say the max is sub-5 to HMTN

honestly kinda adgree but also don’t if he’s morbidly obese with jordan barret features he would still be sub 5 so anything’s possible with losing body fat for many

 

[kaiotips]

With good / mid bone structure without surgery

No

 

[FarhanHere]

Depends on what you have you can’t just describe

 

[AlrightThen]

It depends whats making you sub-5.

 

[proxxyy11]

It depends whats making you sub-5.

literally lmao, first smart grey i came across

 

[Sick]

With good / mid bone structure without surgery

from years of anecdotes its been said that without surgery, assuming you never focused heavily on softmaxxes. Which is skincare/haircare/gymmaxxing/grooming/topic shit like minox, lashes, scerla drops, make up blah blah like chubby average joe.

you can get at least 1 smv point. 2 if you start obese or some shit but had mid bones.

With surgery if your failos are simple to fix and you dont over do or botch yourself you can get another .5 - 1.5 smv. You very rarley see insane true ascensions because people work on shit they dont need, dont address the failos, or end up looking uncanny

All of the best ascensions i've seen have been from double jaw surgery, fillers that emulate its effect, basically all lower third shit.

hope this helps pls rep / solution me

 

[greylol]

approved for lefort 3

 

[zombiesaresocool]

You dont have a good or mid bone structure if you are sub 5 so stop coping for your own good, if you want good results you have to be honest, your bone stucture is in the range of horrible-bad, and it depends how severe your flaws are, its not completely impossible but i would say the max is sub-5 to HMTN

It depends whats making you sub-5.

Eye area I don’t have NCT or anything to bad but that and I have a very androgynous face

 

[ZygolessBum]

Eye area I don’t have NCT or anything to bad but that and I have a very androgynous face

Eye area is the most important part of your face, in overall composition everything is law but if you had to pick 1 it would just have to be eye area, like youve heard they are the windows to the soul, you can get away with anything having chad eye area and LTN lower third, The biggest losses to make you sub-5 are your maxilla and eye area. Theres a reason they call the maxilla the beauty bone, its because with perfect maxillary projection you wont have to worry about philtrum, infraorbitals, your nose, midface, zygo, even your mandible, etc. just covers a lot of the points. an androgynous face is also pretty bad its an indicator of sub-5 faces most of the time. Its not even bad to have low dimo sometimes because then you can fit a certain archetype but thats just bad, so ig hop on T and see how it goes from there, i dont know what features you need to fix so i couldnt even suggest surgery but yeah in most cases HMTN with all efforts applied which is very good btw not a bad thing im pretty sure life starts at HMTN

 

[greygreygrey123son]

With good / mid bone structure without surgery

for most people no, but some possible outliers