is it possible to get better limb lengthening results with growth facts n peptides? (theory)

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ive been thinking about this a lot, limb lengthening seems slow as hell and people are just suffering through it without trying anything beyond the usual HGH/TRT cope, what if there’s a way to push this to the absolute max with experimental stuff no one's really using, like not just growing bone faster but actually making sure everything heals properly and doesn’t end up looking like some weak stretched out shit, obviously this is just theory but I feel like if you’re already committing to leg snapping might as well optimize everything possible, so here’s what I’m thinking

FGF-2 + FGF-9, barely ever talked about, fibroblast growth factors that might actually increase bone formation rate, probably risky but in theory, they could make the distraction phase less painful and shorten recovery, PTH (1-34) (Teriparatide) pulsing would also make sense, since it already boosts bone growth in osteoporosis patients, dosing it at like 20mcg every other day might speed up callus formation without making bones weak like constant exposure would, not sure how this would interact with FGFs though, could be insane synergy or just garbage

Then there’s CNP analogs like vosoritide, used for dwarfism but its mechanism (FGFR3 inhibition) could mean it has potential in normal height people too, idk if it actually works outside of growth plates but it’s worth considering, GH secretagogues instead of HGH itself might be the move too, since HGH solo is midtier unless you’re going stupid high dosages, ipamorelin + CJC-1295 + tesamorelin stacked at max dosages might keep GH levels in the optimal range without the water retention and insulin resistance issues you’d get from just blasting GH alone, plus GH itself doesn’t even do much for actual height gain, it’s more about tissue healing which is still relevant here

Another one would be EGF (epidermal growth factor) injections, barely studied for bone healing but has shown some effects in soft tissue regeneration, theoretically could help periosteum recover faster, also considering rapamycin microdosing, which sounds counterintuitive since mTOR inhibition should slow growth, but ultra-low doses (~0.5mg every 3 days) might actually improve stem cell activation without shutting down necessary pathways, probably the riskiest one here since it messes with immune function but interesting to think about, also MGF (mechano growth factor) local injections could prevent muscle atrophy while in the frame, which seems worth it if you don’t want to end up looking like a stick post lengthening

obviously a lot of this is untested and could go horribly wrong but people already risk their entire biomechanics doing LL with nothing but HGH and prayer, if I were to be in the middle of ll surgery, the last thing I would want is any type of failure ngl
 
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https://www.researchgate.net/public...mplant_bone_healing_A_histomorphometric_study

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37465690/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12477295/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2405844023099577

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12218494/
 
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No since their growth is dictated by the metal rod, it isn’t longitudinal growth bro
 
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No since their growth is dictated by the metal rod, it isn’t longitudinal growth bro
yeah obviously the rod dictates the separation but ur still relying on bone regeneration to fill the gap, ur literally forcing endochondral ossification at an unnatural rate, not the same as natural growth but it's still new bone formation, what do u even mean by 'not longitudinal' Imao it's literally lengthening
 
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yeah obviously the rod dictates the separation but ur still relying on bone regeneration to fill the gap, ur literally forcing endochondral ossification at an unnatural rate, not the same as natural growth but it's still new bone formation, what do u even mean by 'not longitudinal' Imao it's literally lengthening
How tall are u?
 
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5'8 (172), 19 years old
U got any cope techniques to grow taller ion wanna blast anything nor do i have money to do that, any supplements or wtv 🥺:feelswhy::feelswhy:
 
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U got any cope techniques to grow taller ion wanna blast anything nor do i have money to do that, any supplements or wtv 🥺:feelswhy::feelswhy:
If ur not willing to blast anything or spend money then ur options are basically nonexistent, the only nonhormonal things that even have a slight chance are mechanical loading methods like inversion boots, gravity boots, maybe some extreme stretching protocols but even then we're talking minute mm-level changes at best, u can try CNP-PEPTIDE if u can even find it, some guys speculate it has regenerative effects on cartilage but no real evidence, also good luck affording that if ur too broke for actual growth methods, otherwise ur only hope is to delay fusion by any means necessary, lowdose Als, maybe some SERMs but even that's questionable, bottom line is if ur plates are done ur done
 
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If ur not willing to blast anything or spend money then ur options are basically nonexistent, the only nonhormonal things that even have a slight chance are mechanical loading methods like inversion boots, gravity boots, maybe some extreme stretching protocols but even then we're talking minute mm-level changes at best, u can try CNP-PEPTIDE if u can even find it, some guys speculate it has regenerative effects on cartilage but no real evidence, also good luck affording that if ur too broke for actual growth methods, otherwise ur only hope is to delay fusion by any means necessary, lowdose Als, maybe some SERMs but even that's questionable, bottom line is if ur plates are done ur done
Truu gonna go take x-rays first and see if I'm gonna grow:feelswah:
 
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U got any cope techniques to grow taller ion wanna blast anything nor do i have money to do that, any supplements or wtv 🥺:feelswhy::feelswhy:
dont blast you’re too old now for blasting. arent you the same fella who said they were 6’1 or am i mistaken?
 
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If ur not willing to blast anything or spend money then ur options are basically nonexistent, the only nonhormonal things that even have a slight chance are mechanical loading methods like inversion boots, gravity boots, maybe some extreme stretching protocols but even then we're talking minute mm-level changes at best, u can try CNP-PEPTIDE if u can even find it, some guys speculate it has regenerative effects on cartilage but no real evidence, also good luck affording that if ur too broke for actual growth methods, otherwise ur only hope is to delay fusion by any means necessary, lowdose Als, maybe some SERMs but even that's questionable, bottom line is if ur plates are done ur done
Truu gonna go take x-rays first
dont blast you’re too old now for blasting. arent you the same fella who said they were 6’1 or am i mistaken?
Im 17 tho is that too old? Am 184 so just wanna reach 190
 
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Truu gonna go take x-rays first

Im 17 tho is that too old? Am 184 so just wanna reach 190
maybe? physiology atp some people can reach 190
 
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yeah obviously the rod dictates the separation but ur still relying on bone regeneration to fill the gap, ur literally forcing endochondral ossification at an unnatural rate, not the same as natural growth but it's still new bone formation, what do u even mean by 'not longitudinal' Imao it's literally lengthening
Are you retarded? It’s broken bone, there is no cartilage involved
 
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Using peptides during leg lengthening surgery can be counterproductive and even harmful. These compounds accelerate bone healing, which can lead to premature bone fusion, preventing further lengthening and potentially requiring a second osteotomy (bone break) to continue the process. Additionally, while bones need time to grow, surrounding muscles, tendons, and nerves must also stretch gradually. Healing peptides may speed up tissue repair but not tissue adaptation, increasing the risk of contractures, nerve damage, and mobility issues. Rapid bone formation can also result in uneven or weak bone growth, leading to deformities. For optimal results, it’s best to avoid HGH and peptides during the lengthening phase, as the process relies on controlled, gradual healing. However, once the desired height is reached, these compounds can be beneficial in strengthening and hardening the bone during the consolidation phase. Some doctors may prescribe low-dose HGH to aid recovery, but excessive use during lengthening can cause serious complications.

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Using peptides during leg lengthening surgery can be counterproductive and even harmful. These compounds accelerate bone healing, which can lead to premature bone fusion, preventing further lengthening and potentially requiring a second osteotomy (bone break) to continue the process. Additionally, while bones need time to grow, surrounding muscles, tendons, and nerves must also stretch gradually. Healing peptides may speed up tissue repair but not tissue adaptation, increasing the risk of contractures, nerve damage, and mobility issues. Rapid bone formation can also result in uneven or weak bone growth, leading to deformities. For optimal results, it’s best to avoid HGH and peptides during the lengthening phase, as the process relies on controlled, gradual healing. However, once the desired height is reached, these compounds can be beneficial in strengthening and hardening the bone during the consolidation phase. Some doctors may prescribe low-dose HGH to aid recovery, but excessive use during lengthening can cause serious complications.

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ive been thinking about this a lot, limb lengthening seems slow as hell and people are just suffering through it without trying anything beyond the usual HGH/TRT cope, what if there’s a way to push this to the absolute max with experimental stuff no one's really using, like not just growing bone faster but actually making sure everything heals properly and doesn’t end up looking like some weak stretched out shit, obviously this is just theory but I feel like if you’re already committing to leg snapping might as well optimize everything possible, so here’s what I’m thinking

FGF-2 + FGF-9, barely ever talked about, fibroblast growth factors that might actually increase bone formation rate, probably risky but in theory, they could make the distraction phase less painful and shorten recovery, PTH (1-34) (Teriparatide) pulsing would also make sense, since it already boosts bone growth in osteoporosis patients, dosing it at like 20mcg every other day might speed up callus formation without making bones weak like constant exposure would, not sure how this would interact with FGFs though, could be insane synergy or just garbage

Then there’s CNP analogs like vosoritide, used for dwarfism but its mechanism (FGFR3 inhibition) could mean it has potential in normal height people too, idk if it actually works outside of growth plates but it’s worth considering, GH secretagogues instead of HGH itself might be the move too, since HGH solo is midtier unless you’re going stupid high dosages, ipamorelin + CJC-1295 + tesamorelin stacked at max dosages might keep GH levels in the optimal range without the water retention and insulin resistance issues you’d get from just blasting GH alone, plus GH itself doesn’t even do much for actual height gain, it’s more about tissue healing which is still relevant here

Another one would be EGF (epidermal growth factor) injections, barely studied for bone healing but has shown some effects in soft tissue regeneration, theoretically could help periosteum recover faster, also considering rapamycin microdosing, which sounds counterintuitive since mTOR inhibition should slow growth, but ultra-low doses (~0.5mg every 3 days) might actually improve stem cell activation without shutting down necessary pathways, probably the riskiest one here since it messes with immune function but interesting to think about, also MGF (mechano growth factor) local injections could prevent muscle atrophy while in the frame, which seems worth it if you don’t want to end up looking like a stick post lengthening

obviously a lot of this is untested and could go horribly wrong but people already risk their entire biomechanics doing LL with nothing but HGH and prayer, if I were to be in the middle of ll surgery, the last thing I would want is any type of failure ngl
thought about this and leaned more towards the bpc + tb route as opposed to HGH or IGF. I would definitely consult with the surgeon about these options and get a 2nd opinion on it before botching anything. im sure paley has thought/heard about peptides n all this other shit before so I see no problem in bringing the idea up.
 
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