is it possible to have a droopy lower eyelid with forward grown infras

[greycel]

doesnt everyone have some slight creasing?
i do have crease under eye in certain lighting like very downlight but i think it may be a result of shadowing because in natural light theres 0
however i was always under the impression that a fat pad crease like aegyo sal was supposed to be ideal?

Yeah everyone has a crease
Even Depoot does.
Not sure about some people like Nicki Minaj though:

But with the amount of fat you need in your face, it isn't worth it at all
Would never breed Nicki Minaj as having too much fat to make one good feature very good, comes at the cost of lack of angularity

 

[Zenis]

Nah
You already got a very good eye area. I wouldn't bother doing any surgery for a high risk low reward
The better a feature is, the harder it becomes to make an improvement through it

Especially with finicky features like eyes/nose

But it would help him, I think a upturned outer canthus is a very good feature

 

[zemult]

i think i have a little bit of creasing

Extreme mental disorder not droopy lower eyelid jfl

 

[Zenis]

Yeah everyone has a crease
Even Depoot does.
Not sure about some people like Nicki Minaj though:
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But with the amount of fat you need in your face, it isn't worth it at all
Would never breed Nicki Minaj as having too much fat to make one good feature very good, comes at the cost of lack of angularity

Her facial structure is very well devolped despite lack of defention you can tell by how tight her skin is

 

[axttt_]

Extreme mental disorder not droopy lower eyelid jfl

i have diagnosed bdd but my lower lid does genuinely look droopy some days

 

[axttt_]

But it would help him, I think a upturned outer canthus is a very good feature

i agree but i think its at the bottom of my priorities rn
i need trimax first to fix my shitty lower third

 

[greycel]

But it would help him, I think a upturned outer canthus is a very good feature

It's also one of the most common botches
One of the hardest ones to get perfect

And @axttt_ already has PCT. Not worth it IMO
His eyes have appeal already

 

[Zukiteru]

5-6 hours of sleep is enough nigga

I have neutral orbital vector and still sometimes get droopy lower lids.

I almost exclusively get them when I sleep less than 7 hours and they look best when I sleep 8 hours or more so you could probably try sleeping more.

I also have scleral show when my eye area is fully relaxed.

As for why you get them at all under eye area is almost entirely soft tissue related. Tons of girls have recessed infras and still have tight lower lids despite hollowing and bad fat pads.

 

[Alucard69]

They look gay because of that, the shitty eyelids help remove the gay cat eye look + this dude lacks Dimporhsim so it makes it even worse.

A upward curve is good, of course if you have a extreme upward curve wirhout the proper Dimporhsim to balance it well yeah it will look gay sure

It's more aesthetic to have a tighter lower eyelid that's straighter. When you have a too positive inclined lower eyelid to the point it look almost like it's round upward curving it looks gay

 

[Zenis]

It's also one of the most common botches
One of the hardest ones to get perfect

And @axttt_ already has PCT. Not worth it IMO
His eyes have appeal already

Yes that’s true but you can’t have that aesthetic upturned eye look from the Side without that lateral canthlus being titled upwards

 

[Zenis]

It's more aesthetic to have a tighter lower eyelid that's straighter. When you have a too positive inclined lower eyelid to the point it look almost like it's round upward curving it looks gay

It’s good if your already masculine

 

[axttt_]

I have neutral orbital vector and still sometimes get droopy lower lids.

I almost exclusively get them when I sleep less than 7 hours and they look best when I sleep 8 hours or more so you could probably try sleeping more.

I also have scleral show when my eye area is fully relaxed.

As for why you get them at all under eye area is 100% genetic. Tons of girls have recessed infras and still have tight lower lids despite hollowing and bad fat pads.

interesting
i sleep average like 6 ish hours through the week i'd say
i will try sleeping 8+ hours consistently and see if that helps but i for sure do notice it is much better on days where i get good lseep

 

[Alucard69]

It’s good if your already masculine

Best eye areas almost always have the lower eyelid sharp and straight, not curving

 

[greycel]

Her facial structure is very well devolped despite lack of defention you can tell by how tight her skin is

Those are thick fat pads, that provide volume for the skin to be tight
It's not really a bone thing

They would've still existed but in a different formation if she was less developed (affected more by gravity). Which is why I'd say a girl like this is not ideal. You want a girl with good bonemass and also good fat distribution that highlights angularity

 

[Zenis]

Best eye areas almost always have the lower eyelid sharp and straight, not curving

when the corner of the eye specifically turns up

 

[zemult]

i have diagnosed bdd but my lower lid does genuinely look droopy some days

Why are u on here? Short or bad jaw

 

[axttt_]

Why are u on here? Short or bad jaw

both lmao
recessed mandible
chin projection could be better
narrow lower third
maxilla is a little retruded
+ manlet

 

[axttt_]

@greycel @Zenis is there anyway i would be able to make my lower lid completely straight
would that need a cantho too

 

[zemult]

both lmao
recessed mandible
chin projection could be better
narrow lower third
maxilla is a little retruded
+ manlet

Can't really take ur word on anything except the last thing considering this thread exists

 

[axttt_]

Can't really take ur word on anything except the last thing considering this thread exists

why not

 

[Zenis]

@greycel @Zenis is there anyway i would be able to make my lower lid completely straight
would that need a cantho too

Yes you have that curved eye shape because both your lateral and medial canthus are downturned

 

[Zenis]

why not

His maxilla does seem to be reccesed in the paranasal area

 

[axttt_]

Yes you have that curved eye shape because both your lateral and medial canthus are downturned

so if i has upturned lateral canthus it would make lower lid fully straight and fix the other issue i had

 

[axttt_]

His maxilla does seem to be reccesed in the paranasal area

premaxilla is recessed

 

[psychomandible]

How did this thread get 2 pages

 

[axttt_]

How did this thread get 2 pages

niggas discussing shit

 

[Zenis]

Those are thick fat pads, that provide volume for the skin to be tight
It's not really a bone thing

They would've still existed but in a different formation if she was less developed (affected more by gravity). Which is why I'd say a girl like this is not ideal. You want a girl with good bonemass and also good fat distribution that highlights angularity

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Bro can you pm me your face, I wanna see if your legit as downgrown as you say

 

[psychomandible]

niggas discussing shit

Mirin bitching me with giving zero rep

 

[Schizotypalcel]

niggas discussing shit

Good thread helped me out with the same problem.

 

[zemult]

It's more important for the infraorbital rim to be placed higher than how much it's forward tbh, much more so i'm speculating

I think mine's low set

 

[greycel]

@greycel @Zenis is there anyway i would be able to make my lower lid completely straight
would that need a cantho too

Don't listen to @Alucard69
Straight lower eyelid hardly matters compared to absence of crease/PCT/lashes etc

It's just PSL perfection dreaming

 

[axttt_]

Don't listen to @Alucard69
Straight lower eyelid hardly matters compared to absence of crease/PCT/lashes etc

It's just PSL perfection dreaming

yeah i suppose ur right
i don’t have to look like a walking morph to be gl

 

[axttt_]

Don't listen to @Alucard69
Straight lower eyelid hardly matters compared to absence of crease/PCT/lashes etc

It's just PSL perfection dreaming

it does look really striking imo though

 

[Schizotypalcel]

Don't listen to @Alucard69
Straight lower eyelid hardly matters compared to absence of crease/PCT/lashes etc

It's just PSL perfection dreaming

Is there a way to remake the creasing thru surgery as i'm at a loss of the crease?

 

[Zenis]

so if i has upturned lateral canthus it would make lower lid fully straight and fix the other issue i had

Yes

I wish my lateral canthlus was more upturned

 

[axttt_]

YesView attachment 3345700 I wish my lateral canthlus was more upturned

same man
would ascend my eye area so hard but i have much bigger problems to worry about than that tbh

 

[Zenis]

premaxilla is recessed

You still are good looking enough to get a girlfriend to be honest your a normie you know maybe above averge you don’t really need these surgeries but I’m just giving suggestions if you want to

 

[greycel]

Bro can you pm me your face, I wanna see if your legit as downgrown as you say

I'm sorry bro I don't want to, but I'll tell you this
I wasn't breastfed at all pretty much
Never developed tongue support. My sibling was and has a compact skull like rest of family

I instead had orthodontics.. 4 premolar extractions and 7 yrs of braces with elastics
I'm very downgrown. But I don't have that much of a narrow skull (for how little support my nose has/ how less my maxilla is projected)

I'm a good example for anecdotal experience, because I lie in the 0.01% extreme for development
Which is why I can answer these questions for you guys

 

[axttt_]

You still are good looking enough to get a girlfriend to be honest your a normie you know maybe above averge you don’t really need these surgeries but I’m just giving suggestions if you want to

you haven’t seen my face though?
also i’m 5’7
and my lower third is 100% recessed and too narrow too

 

[Zenis]

you haven’t seen my face though?
also i’m 5’7
and my lower third is 100% recessed and too narrow too

I have you sent me it ages ago

 

[axttt_]

I have you sent me it ages ago

oh yeah i think i do recall actually

 

[greycel]

Is there a way to remake the creasing thru surgery as i'm at a loss of the crease?

That's interesting
I personally prefer no crease but @NZb6Air did tell me that the crease is liked by some people a lot

Maybe by removing some undereye fat, it could accentuate the appearance of the crease

Or using tret near the fat pads might deplete some of it

 

[Alucard69]

when the corner of the eye specifically turns up

Hmm after some editing you're probably right, but i still think you want straight lower eyelid and sharp turn when it starts to curl to outer canthus, instead of a round silhuette. High PFL helps in that too ig

 

[Zenis]

Hmm after some editing you're probably right, but i still think you want straight lower eyelid and sharp turn when it starts to curl to outer canthus, instead of a round silhuette. High PFL helps in that too ig

High pfl more so helps in the cut in the side of the eyes that make it look like it’s being stretched out by something not really the upturnes at the end

 

[Alucard69]

Don't listen to @Alucard69
Straight lower eyelid hardly matters compared to absence of crease/PCT/lashes etc

It's just PSL perfection dreaming

His lower eyelid already looks good. Straight lower eyelid and absence of crease are extremly linked to each other btw

 

[greycel]

High pfl more so helps in the cut in the side of the eyes that make it look like it’s being stretched out by something not really the upturnes at the end

I've got pretty high PFL. I think yeah it looks elongated from the side, but the sharpness is a result of I think fat underneath the corners of the eye
Like this guy:

I read a post on it once

 

[Zenis]

I've got pretty high PFL. I think yeah it looks elongated from the side, but the sharpness is a result of I think fat underneath the corners of the eye
Like this guy:
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I read a post on it once

Damn this dudes got a giga mogger eye area, needs to lose weight asap

 

[Alucard69]

High pfl more so helps in the cut in the side of the eyes that make it look like it’s being stretched out by something not really the upturnes at the end

I just mean that the potential of sharper lower eyelid is higher in longer PFL if u have high pct. (because the PCT isn't as drastic)

On a side note this is what you don't want (the lower eyelid shape)

 

[Zenis]

I just mean that the potential of sharper lower eyelid is higher in longer PFL if u have high pct.

On a side note this is what you don't want (the lower eyelid shape)
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I think it’s actually lower if you have a high pfl

 

[Alucard69]

I think it’s actually lower if you have a high pfl

I mean it depends, but the potential is higher imo. For her case for example the part where the scelral show are on lateral canthus side are weirdly long compared to medial. Also she doesn't have straightness to go with, that's why u think so maybe