Is it TRULY over + 2 things that happened to me

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I already know it's over in the sense that i'll never have a girl throw herself at me or truly prefer me sexually to 95+% of guys, but do u guys think it's over in the sense that i can never start a family with a not-ugly foid? I had a 3 month era where i was determined to get LL and bimax and then move to another country but then i realized the LL is not rlly feasible and the bimax without LL is useless for me (i'll explain y in a few lines). So now i pivoted to making sure it's not over for my hypothetical child. So my goal is to just moneyeducationmax, leanmax just to feel good ab myself, and get a mogger sperm donor if i can eventually find a wife whos willing to breed. Maybe rhino at some point for cope.

So context:

19 y/o 5'5" ethnic but i always fraud to 5'7", virgin but did everything before one time, idk what i'd rate my face but maybe mmtn relative to my ethnic group. I'm not recessed or anything.

Ik on paper it seems utterly over but at the same time i feel like i've had lived experiences that wouldn't have happened if i was actually super chopped. In general i feel like people in public/ppl i meet are nice and respond well to me. I mean there have obviously been instances where i've been subconsciously ignored or treated lesser but idk. I've always been in the 'it' friend group in highschool (my highschool in US was 60+% ethnics of the same race of me) and i have a good close group in college too.(Given, with both friend groups i was at the bottom of the totem pole in terms of general status but i've developed very strong relationships nonetheless).

And in HS there was also a blonde LHTB who i was friends with that agreed to go to sr prom with me (it was only because she had recently broken up with her boyfriend and prom was approaching in 2 weeks and everyone was in a rush to find a date. She also proceeded to cancel our prom plans a week after agreeing because one of her other guy friends lost his date and so they went together instead). Ik she'd never let me hit or kiss even in a million years

but i say all this to say i rlly don't feel like my lived experiences are that of a super-chopped person. like, surely a LHTB wouldn't agree to go to prom with a sub-5, right? i truly do like seeing myself in the mirror and i like seeing myself in ~50% of pictures i'm in. regardless, as i said earlier ill just moneymax and try to be a kind interesting put-together person and see what i can do.


ok also here are 2 things that happened:

- i've been lurking for months this my first post. but i remember seeing here that super GL ppl r generally less bitter because they grew up with positive reinforcement. and i was studying for a test i had and i forgot submit a fucking paper worth 20% of my grade for this other class which i've never even been to bc atendance isn't mandatory, and the submission closed. So i went to email the professor for which the essay was due, and even tho he's agepilled i saw his profile picture he was actually a mogger. I went and searched him up and he had younger pictures on his Linkedin and he was HHTN-LCL in his 40s no cap. so i was praying to god that he would lemme submit it late bc he was so fucking good looking and would be more nice. and lo and behold he let me submit it and even offered an extra 48 hours to submit for full credit and i ended up getting a 97%. W BP.

- me and my friends were talking about a mutual friend who has exaggeratedly large masseters and then we were just talking about everyone at the table's jawlines one of the girls was saying to me "oh i feel like you have a strong jawline too" then paused and said "now that i look at it i feel like it's more bone structure than muscle" (she's studying to go to med school so idk). that shit made my day tho.
 
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dnr a s m n


why the fuck are you even talking about this I'm gonna lick the shit outta you
 
frankramsey said:
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what does asmn mean. also can u read my post and provide some insight
 
celsius1234567 said:
what does asmn mean. also can u read my post and provide some insight
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I’m really glad you wrote all this out. There’s a lot of pain in what you’re saying, but also a lot of self-awareness and honesty, and that’s a good foundation for actually feeling better and building the life you want. Let me break this down in a way that’s grounded, supportive, and realistic — not dismissive, not sugarcoated.



1. You’re not “over.” Not even close.​


What you’re describing — the “it’s over,” “I’ll never be preferred,” “I’m mid at best,” etc. — is classic blackpill thinking, and it works by exaggerating some truths into hopeless absolutes.


Here’s the actual reality:


  • Millions of men shorter than 5'5" have happy relationships, marriages, and kids.
  • Millions of men who are average-looking have wives who love them, have sex with them, and build families with them.
  • Your lived experience already contradicts your doom narrative.

You even said it yourself:


“My lived experiences aren’t of a super-chopped person.”
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That matters more than anything you’ve seen on forums.


People respond well to you. You’ve had real social groups. You’ve had girls pay you compliments. You had a literal blonde LHTB agree to go to prom. You had a professor be kind to you because… he’s a normal human, not because he scanned your face rating.


Your life experience is not matching the doomer storyline you're applying to it.



2. You’re stuck in appearance hyperanalysis — and it’s distorting your self-image​


You’re rating yourself, rating your professor, rating your prom friend, analyzing jaw muscle insertions, comparing ethnic group attractiveness hierarchies, thinking about bimax surgery at age nineteen…
This is what happens when you consume too much lookism/blackpill content.


It rewires your brain to overvalue every tiny detail of looks and undervalue everything else humans actually use to choose partners:


  • Warmth
  • Humor
  • Confidence
  • Social ease
  • Safety
  • Shared values
  • Emotional intelligence
  • Consistency
  • Responsibility

You have multiple examples that you do have social value:


  • You're in good friend groups
  • You form strong connections
  • People respond positively
  • Girls don’t recoil or treat you like you’re invisible
  • You get compliments
  • You’re likeable

These matter way more for building a family than being 6'0 with hunter eyes.



3. You’re catastrophizing your future based on being 19​


Nineteen is a brutal age. Everyone is hyperfocused on looks, clout, hookups, and status. People are immature. College culture exaggerates everything.


Dating dramatically changes after:


  • 22
  • 25
  • Early professional life

Women start prioritizing stability, kindness, emotional compatibility, ambition, and someone who feels safe and consistent — not a 6’4 TikTok model.


If your goal is a serious partner and a family, you’re optimizing for the thing that actually gets easier with age, not harder.



4. Your “solutions” show you’re not hopeless — you’re scared​


Moneymaxxing. Education. Leanmaxxing. Improving style. Considering a mild cosmetic tweak someday.
All of these are normal self-improvement.


But the idea of:


  • “I’ll need a mogger sperm donor”
  • “My future wife won’t want my genetics”
  • “It’s over so I’ll just focus on the next generation”

…that comes from fear, not reality.


If women respond well to you socially already, they will respond even better when you’re older, more confident, more put-together, more financially stable, more grounded, and more experienced.


Your 30-year-old self would read this and go:
“Oh my god, I was worrying about nothing.”



5. You don’t need surgery to be loved​


You truly don’t.


Could you get a rhinoplasty someday? Sure.
Could you hit the gym and improve your aesthetics? Yes.
Could you refine your style and grooming? Definitely.


But relationships and families are not built on:


  • canthal tilts
  • gonial angles
  • maxilla projections
  • bite alignment
  • height percentiles

They are built on how someone feels when they’re with you.


Women don’t fall in love with a guy because he hits moldboard-tier facial ratios.
They fall in love because he makes them feel:


  • safe
  • seen
  • valued
  • understood
  • excited
  • appreciated

You already have core social skills. You’re emotionally intelligent. You’re reflective. These are huge assets.
 
can u tell me what asmn means its lowkey similar to my apartment name i'm paranoid i'm getting discovered already. can we message?
frankramsey said:
dnr a s m n


why the fuck are you even talking about this I'm gonna lick the shit outta you
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