Is it worth it to run this cycle now, or should I wait?

[thaum]

I am 16 and 184cm tall (plates are still open and am expected to grow to roughly 188cm), however I know running gear can fuck with ur FAH.

This is why I want to ask if the benefits of running 300 test, 150 tren, and some proviron at a younger age outweigh the potential to end up a little shorter?
(before roidcels come at me i know i need ancillaries and already have a plan set up, im just not mentioning them bc they arent relevant)

 

[thaum]

bump

 

[Foidraperwaffen666]

I am 16 and 184cm tall (plates are still open and am expected to grow to roughly 188cm), however I know running gear can fuck with ur FAH.

This is why I want to ask if the benefits of running 300 test, 150 tren, and some proviron at a younger age outweigh the potential to end up a little shorter?
(before roidcels come at me i know i need ancillaries and already have a plan set up, im just not mentioning them bc they arent relevant)

Why tren?

 

[thaum]

Why tren?

am considering it since i might aswell add it if im gonna bother with bloodwork

19nors are best for results although they rape your brain, most of my ancillaries are focused around taming tren's interactions w the brain to prevent me becoming a 1st quartile iqcel

 

[Foidraperwaffen666]

am considering it since i might aswell add it if im gonna bother with bloodwork

19nors are best for results although they rape your brain, most of my ancillaries are focused around taming tren's interactions w NMDA receptors to prevent me becoming a 1st quartile iqcel

why not just mast+dhb if you want dimo? if you want muscle just use test+eq+gh+slin

 

[thaum]

why not just mast+dhb if you want dimo? if you want muscle just use test+eq+gh+slin

have considered swapping prov with mast but prov is cleaner and fucks with your bloods less

originally was going to run the cycle without bloodwork but im high inhib
havent looked into dhb much since i rarely hear of ppl using it.

Either way, regardless of the changes that i'll make to the cycle, do you think it's worth it to sacrifice a bit of height for more dimo gains?

 

[foidslayer5000]

have considered swapping prov with mast but prov is cleaner and fucks with your bloods less

originally was going to run the cycle without bloodwork but im high inhib
havent looked into dhb much since i rarely hear of ppl using it.

Either way, regardless of the changes that i'll make to the cycle, do you think it's worth it to sacrifice a bit of height for more dimo gains?

I ended up using turinabol to increase available test, but prov is also a great option

 

[thaum]

I ended up using turinabol to increase available test, but prov is also a great option

am looking at prov for dimo in addition to the lowering of shbg, i believe it has 4x the binding affinity of dht so u kinda kill 2 birds w one stone, also barely hepatotoxic despite being an oral

what age are you running yours at, and how badly do you think itll mess w my FAH?

 

[Juanito Alimaña]

I am 16 and 184cm tall (plates are still open and am expected to grow to roughly 188cm), however I know running gear can fuck with ur FAH.

This is why I want to ask if the benefits of running 300 test, 150 tren, and some proviron at a younger age outweigh the potential to end up a little shorter?
(before roidcels come at me i know i need ancillaries and already have a plan set up, im just not mentioning them bc they arent relevant)

If you still have time you probably should keep

 

[thaum]

If you still have time you probably should keep

wdym "if i still have time"?

the absolute soonest i can run it safely is in like 3-4 months, i just want to find the best time to do it
i'd assume its a lot harder to grow bones (mainly looking for dimo here) the older you are

 

[Schlüsselbein]

Won't there be no impact on your height as long as you keep your estrogen in check with an AI for example?

 

[thaum]

Won't there be no impact on your height as long as you keep your estrogen in check with an AI for example?

androgens can have an affect on height velocity and FAH

Plenty of studies out there that strongly suggest that using androgens up until the very moment of plate fusion will lead to a shorter FAH.
This is because your bone age rapidly increases and outpaces the increased growth velocity (this has been documented in non-aromatisable androgens like Anavar) and the only way to make sure it has no effect is to stop taking androgens before your plates close, which keeps your FAH roughly the same due to "catch up growth" (bone age advances much slower allowing for the missing growth to be made up for).

This method of preserving height potential is obviously not relevant to me since I am nearing the end of my growth plates

 

[Juanito Alimaña]

wdym "if i still have time"?

the absolute soonest i can run it safely is in like 3-4 months, i just want to find the best time to do it
i'd assume its a lot harder to grow bones (mainly looking for dimo here) the older you are

In fact it is, but there's a chance you have a second spurt, it happens to a lot of people.

For example, you are 1,50 at 12 yo, you grow to 1,70 at 15, then you stay like that for some time, around 1,70 and 1,72 until 17 and you hir a second spurt reaching 1,80 or more.