is LL worth it at 5'5?

[Deleted member 23865]

Don't get fucking 2 inches 5'5 - 5'7 is literally nothing and you'd have to fraud your way to 5'10

You are going to get LL so just go to the maximum safe limit. Your proportions won't look as bad as you think I imagine in your mind you think you'd look like a stick, you won't. If you can get 5 - 6 inches you'd be able to fraud to like 6'1 which is a good height. Recovery is brutal but if you do all the hard work such as the stretching and you're consistent you will be all good for the most part, although I am not sure how your athletic ability will be but in my mind as long as you can walk, jog and run it's fine.

bro stop the cope. there's no way you can go from 5'5 to 6'1 and not look ridiculous. my arms and torso would look extremely small. and the difference between 5'5 and 5'7 is massive. with height there's clearly a cutoff which is 5'6-5'7. if you're below that, you're excluded from the dating pool unless you compensate like crazy, which obviously I don't. in my country 5'5 is 60 percentile for women, 5'7 is 85. the amount of women that heightmog me would be reduced by more than 60%. imagine saying that's "literally nothing" JFL. anything below strong 5'6 barefoot (so you can height fraud to 5'7 with lifts) is suicide tier height

 

[Parf]

bro stop the cope. there's no way you can go from 5'5 to 6'1 and not look ridiculous. my arms and torso would look extremely small. and the difference between 5'5 and 5'7 is massive. with height there's clearly a cutoff which is 5'6-5'7. if you're below that, you're excluded from the dating pool unless you compensate like crazy, which obviously I don't. in my country 5'5 is 60 percentile for women, 5'7 is 85. the amount of women that heightmog me would be reduced by more than 60%. imagine saying that's "literally nothing" JFL. anything below strong 5'6 barefoot (so you can height fraud to 5'7 with lifts) is suicide tier height

what cope? mf you get 5 inches from LL and then you fraud with 3 inches using big shoes and lifts, you are literally going to spend 60k to get 2 inches which will bring you from unknown to slightly visible. i also agree that people in this site bring blackpill to the extreme but 5'7 is still death tier, your arms will be small so what?

This all goes down to what the individual preference is like, some will be willing to mess up proportions by a small bit and get some extra height while others are so paranoid about proportions that they would spend 60k just to get 2 inches. Btw yes I do agree that 2 inches is a lot but if you're getting LL might as well go to the maximum safe lengthening

 

[RazerGlazer]

Get tibia 5cm. Long tibia looks aestethic.

Trust me long femurs and short tibia looks fucking autistic. Ive seen one case where a guy went 6cm or 7cm on femur and the guy's propotions were looking so bad.

But you probably wont do it so my advice is for nothing

 

[EyebrowSupremacy]

I wouldn't, id personally just use height increasing shoes

 

[litaz]

Don't get fucking 2 inches 5'5 - 5'7 is literally nothing and you'd have to fraud your way to 5'10

You are going to get LL so just go to the maximum safe limit. Your proportions won't look as bad as you think I imagine in your mind you think you'd look like a stick, you won't. If you can get 5 - 6 inches you'd be able to fraud to like 6'1 which is a good height. Recovery is brutal but if you do all the hard work such as the stretching and you're consistent you will be all good for the most part, although I am not sure how your athletic ability will be but in my mind as long as you can walk, jog and run it's fine.

playing soccer is one of my favourite copes tho I personally would always love to do that so hopefully tibia could heal to proper athletic ability and in the future LL would be more optimized

 

[epictroll]

I want to do 2.5 inches femurs, *maybe* go back for 1.5 tibias. It seems like complications, difficulty, and proportions go up a lot after 6cm femurs (2.3 inches), so 6-6.5cm is probably for the best.

The problem is the surgery is so fucking resource intensive.
You basically need $100k (if you're not retarded, you have to do this with Paley, he does femurs for $97.5) + $50k for living expense + disappear for about 8 months. Maybe 2 years until your walking looks passable in public. All that for 2.5 inches.

 

[Deleted member 23865]

playing soccer is one of my favourite copes tho I personally would always love to do that so hopefully tibia could heal to proper athletic ability and in the future LL would be more optimized

afaik, tibia is riskier than femur

 

[Deleted member 23865]

I want to do 2.5 inches femurs, *maybe* go back for 1.5 tibias. It seems like complications, difficulty, and proportions go up a lot after 6cm femurs (2.3 inches), so 6-6.5cm is probably for the best

double LL is only worth it if you're below 5'4 imo. or female average height of your country

The problem is the surgery is so fucking resource intensive.
You basically need $100k (if you're not retarded, you have to do this with Paley, he does femurs for $97.5) + $50k for living expense + disappear for about 8 months. Maybe 2 years until your walking looks passable in public. All that for 2.5 inches.

definitely worth it if below 5'6. I'm 5'5 and I wouldn't even consider doing LL in the future if I was 5'6-5'7

 

[Maalik]

in fact in my country avg is 5'9.5. but autists here say average is 6'0 and you should kys if you're below 6'2

do you know why we "autists" say the average is around 5,11+?

1.) the national stats for adult men also take into account the oldcels anywhere between 45 and 90+ . this drags the national average down by an inch or two depending on the proportions of old ppl in ur country. But in reality, you would never compare yourself to hide the pain harold . ur not competing with him, ur only competing with 15-45 yr olds.

2.) Some governemnts actually knock the average down a bit to help manlets cope lol. Its true. They know manlet suicide rate is crazy high especially in first world nations so they bluepill you with "muh facts and figures" and hope you don't kys so u can stay alive and keep giving taxes.

 

[Deleted member 23865]

1.) the national stats for adult men also take into account the oldcels anywhere between 45 and 90+ . this drags the national average down by an inch or two depending on the proportions of old ppl in ur country. But in reality, you would never compare yourself to hide the pain harold . ur not competing with him, ur only competing with 15-45 yr olds

there are studies that only measure zoomers. the average in the US is definitely below 5'11. white american zoomer is 5'10.5 MAX. in spain, as I said, 5'9.5

2.) Some governemnts actually knock the average down a bit to help manlets cope lol. Its true. They know manlet suicide rate is crazy high especially in first world nations so they bluepill you with "muh facts and figures" and hope you don't kys so u can stay alive and keep giving taxes.

bro I doubt "being too short" is one of the main reasons males are killing themselves

 

[Maalik]

you can geomaxx and heightmog the

this is giga mega cope. I'm 20, I won't grow anymore. hgh, stretching, glucosamine... it's all cope

it isn't all cope.
stretching is absolute copium, yes. I don't know much about glucosamine.

But there was a study done that showed 30%+ of men naturally grew 1 inch - 2 inches between the ages of 20 and 29.
And chronic usage of HGH is known to add an inch to ur height even when ur growth plates are supposedly "closed".

Here's what you need to do:
1.) Take some DHT, right now. Then start gymcelling to raise ur test, to the point ur naturally producing high DHT to keep your bone age in stasis. This may destroy ur hair but who cares you will be an incel anyway.
2.) Start taking hgh, Make sure to monitor ur blood sugar or you will become a diabeetuscel
3.) ?? Eat a generally healthy diet and then excess protein, calcium, vit D, Vit A. To make sure ur body has the nutrients to grow the extra inch
4.) take MK677. it is cheap af, it will cause ur body to produce its own HGH
5.) intermittent fast 2 or 3 times a week( not everyday) and go to sleep after breaking the fast. it temporarily skyrockets HGH.

Keep this routine up for the next decade and you will probably be a Mid tier Manlet at a height of 5,7.
my advice would be treat this as a passive part of your daily life. don't constantly fret over it and ur height or u will burnout.

if u stack Leg Lengthening on top, which should add an extra 3 inches on the femur then you've got a respectable height of 5,10.
But you need money and courage for that

 

[Deleted member 16280]

I think I’ll go for 3in gain in the femurs up to 5’10. At that point frauding to 6’ is easy.

 

[EggKing]

is LL worth it being 5'5 barefoot, white avg face, around avg torso / leg ratio and wingspan for that height (so proportions would be fine, I think), and having the money to do it? goal would be 5'7, 2 inches on femur, maybe I could get 2.5 or 3 inches but I think it's better to be safe. I don't think tibia is worth it bc I've read it's more dangerous, and at 5'9 I doubt proportions are good. in my country the avg zoomer is 5'9.5, 5'7 is ~17.5 percentile for zoomer males and ~85 percentile for females, so despite some mfs here will say if I'm below 6 feet I should rope, 5'7 isn't that short. and spain isn't as heightist as usa. and I could easily wear 1 inch shoe lifts to be 5'8.

my main concern isn't money, time, pain or proportions, it's that something could go wrong and fuck up my legs. or maybe everything goes well, but even then I don't recover 100% of my athletic ability. obviously if I ever do it, I will go to the best doctor even if it's expensive, which as far as I know is Paley. 5'5 is 5 percentile for men and 60 for women here btw, which is absolutely brutal, so I think it's worth it

Yes
Life starts at 5´9 brother

 

[StayThePath]

Get tibia 5cm. Long tibia looks aestethic.

Trust me long femurs and short tibia looks fucking autistic. Ive seen one case where a guy went 6cm or 7cm on femur and the guy's propotions were looking so bad.

But you probably wont do it so my advice is for nothing

For LL it is generally preferred to lengthen the Femurs. But there are pros and cons:
Pros:

• Faster recovery since the femur is covered by more soft tissue and receives a much greater blood supply
• Can lengthen more safely. Recommended Femoral lengthening is around 8 cm, whereas for tibias it is around 4-5 cm
• Generally looks better cosmetically since it does not alter knee position
• Cheaper
• Lengthening Tibias has a much higher incidence of a misalignment issue
• Harder to ensure good alignment of both bones (fibula and tibia)
• Lengthening Tibia has a much higher incidence of arthritis in both the knee and ankle

Cons:

• If you already have long femurs relative to tibias, then lengthening femurs will skew your proportions
• Longer femurs are correlated to worse athletic performance in many sports.
• Likewise, longer tibias relative to femurs are a mechanical advantage in many sports:
  • More efficient squatting in weightlifting
  • Faster sprinting
  • More efficient stride pattern in long-distance running: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6942485/

 

[RazerGlazer]

For LL it is generally preferred to lengthen the Femurs. But there are pros and cons:
Pros:

• Faster recovery since the femur is covered by more soft tissue and receives a much greater blood supply
• Can lengthen more safely. Recommended Femoral lengthening is around 8 cm, whereas for tibias it is around 4-5 cm
• Generally looks better cosmetically since it does not alter knee position
• Cheaper
• Lengthening Tibias has a much higher incidence of a misalignment issue
• Harder to ensure good alignment of both bones (fibula and tibia)
• Lengthening Tibia has a much higher incidence of arthritis in both the knee and ankle

Cons:

• If you already have long femurs relative to tibias, then lengthening femurs will skew your proportions
• Longer femurs are correlated to worse athletic performance in many sports.
• Likewise, longer tibias relative to femurs are a mechanical advantage in many sports:
  • More efficient squatting in weightlifting
  • Faster sprinting
  • More efficient stride pattern in long-distance running: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6942485/

Enough said

Long tibias > long femurs

 

[Deleted member 25056]

If you have money then try to acquire hgh and ai, you might be one of those rare cases, especially at your height.

 

[Anasurimbor]

definetely worth because at 5'5 you get disqualified a lot. I would still go for 3 inches. 5'7 is still viewed by many as manlet while 5'8 is just below average.