5'8.5, with my shoes i am 5'10 or very close to it but i still feel like giga manlet and get mogged by 80% of guys. Being raised by a single mother = death sentence, i wasn't fed properly and so i didn't grow as much as i could have.
Cope you just have shit genetics/shit genetic recombination
its not cope dude average human height was 184cm 20000 years ago. The diet is way more important than people think, grains stunt growth hard.
cute
I know, i am truecel tier but that doesn't change the fact that improper nutrition, insufficient sleep and bad growth-stunting diet had a significant effect on my growth as a teenager during puberty.
You know what else absolutely wrecks you? processed sugar/food aka goyslop which is all i ate and still eat since i was 12-13.
1-2 cm wouldn’t change your quality of life
yeah same im just going to rope this week
The way i see it is that time+effort has to be worth the reward and i just don't think it's worth it if you're manlet truecel tier.
It's 3 inches actually, you have a baseline height that is determined from your genetics, e.g. 5'8, you have a variable of 3 inches either way, in this case being 5'11 or 5'5 which is dependent on external factors like diet, sleep etc. So no, it's not 1-2 cm and yes 5'11 is a big difference to 5'8, every inch counts when you are in this height range.
There's no risk though, even a 1% chance of achieving a better life should be enough to at least try
Looksmaxxing requires basically no effort, maybe an hour a day and thats pushing it tbh.
Well i don't take fin/dut/minox and probably won't ever take it due to PFS/side effects and ofcourse a manlet with a full head of thick hair and clear skin with a sharp jawline will look better but i'm not looking to get surgeries so what's left? chewing/mewing/skincare/gymcel? yh okay i can do that but besides that there's not much else to do.
Aka you’re 5’6 and 5’8 with lifts (all men lie by 2 inches)
No, i don't lie. I am legit 5'8.5 in the morning. I have quite a few cousins who are confirmed 5'7 and i'm very obviously an inch or two taller.
Our height has nothing to do with our diet, it only has an effect if you are malnourished (which literally no one in first world countries is). Dutch people are taller than British people because of evolutionary selection for genes that made them tall. Our height in the modern age is determined almost entirely by genes and the 'environmental' component is non controllable environment i.e. random chance in our growth. That's why identical twins separated at birth and raised in radically different environments have extremely similar heights.
dad 5'7, mum currently 5'0 but claims she was taller in her youth, she's 60+ years old so it's possible she was an inch or 2 max taller, still womanlet tier though. I'm certain i could be 5'11 too if i slept enough and ate well but such are the consequences of being raised by a single mother. Now i will have to suffer for the rest of my life.
It's 70% genetics, 30% diet/environmental factors. If you have a baseline height of 5'8 due to parents genetics, you can either go up to 5'11 or 5'5, 3 inches either way from your baseline dependent on environmental factors e.g. sleep + diet and a few other things. No one in 1st world countries is malnourished? not true, so many kids in their teenage years aren't given proper nutrition and are actually given processed sugar and other rubbish that stunts their growth, they're actively working to stunt their growth instead of eating right and growing. Diet + Sleep is extremely important and can be a variation of 3 inches.
Bucko you're 5'8 just wear lifts and the problem is your face and social skills otherwise you could pull Latina baddies
how tall are u
Are you white?
yes, JBW is massive cope in 1st world countries. also, one of the main reasons whites are more attractive is because they're taller on avg, but I'm 5'5 so it doesn't matter
Yes Height + White Skin is what the JBW appeal is. But I would say if your desperate enough to geomax go to some short SEA country.
I'm broke so geomaxxing isn't possible for me rn.
Brutal bro I'm a 4/10 manlet as well. And sometimes wonder why I got so cursed in life
it's fucking brutal. 5'5 + pectus excavatum + below avg face and fucking bluepilled normies will say my problem is my personality, makes me wanna go ERBrutal bro I'm a 4/10 manlet as well. And sometimes wonder why I got so cursed in life
No, “environment” is a commonly misinterpreted term. Environment doesn’t necessarily mean anything systematic like diet. It includes anything non-genetic such hormones in the womb, to infections, to random chance in the way the body grew. For example, cloned fish raised in identical tank environments show large differences in their behavior despite being given literally everything the same. In that case the environment is simply a zig or zag in the way the brain wired itself while growing, or the way tissue and bone grew. From twin studies we know that most ‘environmental’ influence does not come from the shared environment, where diet would be found. It comes from the non-shared environment which suggests it’s purely chance. Yes, harsh conditions can stunt growth but the stuff that effects height is only seen in the third world and with lead poisoning etc. Even an extremely unhealthy diet is enough nutrition to reach full height potential. That’s why students from public schools in the west *do not have shorter heights on average* than students in private schools, which should be the exact place you’d find evidence of diet having this huge impact. You should read a lot more on genetics, Robert Plomin is a good start. Maybe videos on YouTube.
yeah your intuition on having a good foundation is absolutely right. If you aren't at least 5 foot 10, it's not worth it. You might as well focus on other areas of life besides girls. Remember that girls are only one part of life.
interesting. do sleep, exercise or vit D have any significant influence then?
I'm not sure but i still believe diet + sleep are two very important aspects and can/will significantly affect your height. I see what you're saying about the 3rd world and that these things shouldn't have any real impact in our 1st world countries but i still think stunting your growth with insufficient sleep and diet primarily consisting of processed food/sugar is significant and doesn't just apply to the 3rd world. Malnutrition as a whole is for the most part attributed to poor 3rd world countries but it can and does happen on a smaller scale in 1st world countries, it's just not extreme in my opinion. For example a guy who can be 5'11 gets his growth stunted, not enough protein/sleep/etc and he ends up 5'8-5'9. An extremely unhealthy diet will actively work towards you and stunt your growth so i'm not sure how you can say it doesn't matter and will still allow you to reach your genetic potential. I'll give Robert Plomin a read over the weekend but i still think my opinion/theory is correct.
All of them do. Vit D is a super hormone and affects a lot of things in your body, whether it has any significant affect on height i cannot say but it certainly doesn't do any harm and getting sun/vit d and other nutrients from a good diet is crucial for growth. Sleep is one of the most important aspects, 8-10 hours during puberty is ideal, if you got 5 hours like me then you're stunting your growth, it's obvious. Exercise helps aswell, especially if it involves jumping/stretching.
That’s bc the other guys are wearing shoes too. Seriously, don’t measure your height with shoes. What’s the point?
It depends where you live, I'm also 5'8" and half but I mog 60-70% of guys where I live without any lifts
Which country? i would like to mog as a 5'8 manlet, i know it's doable in phillipines/indo/SEA in general and maybe malaysia?
I don't, i was just saying even when i'm 5'10 in shoes i still get mogged to oblivion by 75-80% of men so the whole 5'9 average is not true.
