Is mouth width cope?

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I made a thread a few days back asking users to choose their ideal mouth shape out of 5 different mouth areas. These were the final results;


As you can see mouth 1 ,3 and 4 were chosen the most with mouth 5 getting 0 votes and 2 being the widest mouth in the split up by far; getting only 4 votes. This basically confirms my theory that mouth shape, colour and texture are more important than width :

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Of course to confirm this theory I had to make real photo manipulations and see how it pans out :

Here are the results:


Mouth to nose ratio - 1.2


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Mouth to nose ratio -1.8:
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I think it’s an improvement, albeit not a massive one.

Here’s another result on a non animated human:

Mouth to nose -1.15:
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Mouth to nose -1.8:
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Clear descension imo as his relatively narrow jaw and prettyboy aesthetic is better suited for smaller mouth widths.

Another one , this time on a PSL God known for his great mouth area and width :

Mouth to nose - 1.2:

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Mouth to nose -1.8:
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I think this thread is the final nail in the coffin that mouth width apart from microstomia is almost irrelevant and plays very little role in facial aesthetics, imo mouth width expansion should be attempted only for literal Anus mouth users and that after you hit nose to mouth of 1.3 there’s very little changes in psl by going up to 1.5 or beyond .


Let’s see what users have been doing the past year In hopes of increasing mouth width


MSE

Thousands down the drain for palate expansion in the hopes that it increases mouth width but in the meantime also increases alar base width and facial width beyond what may be considered aesthetic. Even @Korea agrees with me on the fact that MSE is pure shit.

Facial flex/microstomia prevention splits

As the name suggests this should only be used by actual microstomia ( Anus mouth) sufferers and not people who want to increase mouth size to maximum dimorphic ( let’s face it mouth width is dimorphic; but dimorphism isn’t necessarily more attractive all the time) levels. Users here who tried it have reported nasolabial folds( death) ,vermilion scarring etc.

As I had postulated earlier mouth width is more nuanced than “bigger is better”(

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and even a modicum of PSL increase it may provide if expanded to ideal ratios aren’t worth the risks and cost( MSE instead of a well done rhino? Really?)


But let’s say your mouth width actually looks subhuman to you and you feel you want to expand it? I have no problems with this unless you are not completely leaned out. Being fat just like it affects many other ratios and perceived metrics like IPD /PFL etc. also affects perceived mouth width. And try as you might to look at mouth in relation to nose , you will ultimately compare your mouth only w relation to your face.

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@Preston @Alexanderr @Gargantuan botb bro
 
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Dei baadungala Idhu looksmax forum thane pinna enna 0 podrenga da Potta passngala
 
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frame width is important
mouth not
 
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50 mm-55mm depending on height
 
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Dei baadungala Idhu looksmax forum thane pinna enna 0 podrenga da Potta passngala
i thought ypu were indo aryan what si this? are you larping
 
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i was gonna jfl this post but after i saw the effort put into it
i holded back
 
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your mouth width gave you severe BDD :lul:
 
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Indians usually have narrow mouths . It is a brutal harmony killer.
 
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Indians usually have narrow mouths . It is a brutal harmony killer.
They’re failoed by everything let’s be real
 
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big mouth can be ugly for some people.
 
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It’s because most faggots are retarded on here that’s why they chose 3. the mouth 2 has lines, wider mouth and the lines are there because of the wide face bone structure but hey many are retarded here right.
 
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It’s not.
 
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It’s called fish lips. Some Italians have it
Usually full lips on Meds come with a small narrow mouth due to gracile phenotype

It's the wide mouth Meds that have thin lips. Widening the mouth thins the lips naturally. Just pucker your lips and widen them to notice the effect
 
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1.8 isn’t even ideal tho… also it has to be proportionate relative to jaw and ipd aswell
 
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This thread is an utter cope. Mouth width matters. Also. Stop using 1:8 in your morphs, it isn’t even ideal. Use 1:7, that is better and perhaps ideal.
 
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This thread is an utter cope. Mouth width matters. Also. Stop using 1:8 in your morphs, it isn’t even ideal. Use 1:7, that is better and perhaps ideal.
1.8 isn’t even ideal tho… also it has to be proportionate relative to jaw and ipd aswell
The point is bigger isn’t always better. I can do 1.7 but it would be a very slight improvement Lorenzo descends with even 1.6 as you can see. After 1.3 the increase in psl from widening mouth is minimal esp if you have prettyboy aesthetics you could actually be decreasing your psl
 
ideal mouth to nose ratio is 1.474, everything else is ropefuel.

proof:
Chad example
 
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The point is bigger isn’t always better. I can do 1.7 but it would be a very slight improvement Lorenzo descends with even 1.6 as you can see. After 1.3 the increase in psl from widening mouth is minimal esp if you have prettyboy aesthetics you could actually be decreasing your psl
Each person has different inter gonial widths and different nose widths, which is why 1.7 might look bad (just overall) on a peanut skilled subhuman. But in an 8 PSL face, something around 1.7 would be ideal. When you see why some faces look worse even with 1.4, you have to look at the rest of the individual flaws on their faces.
 
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I think there's no ideal ratio for Lip width just like for IPD and ES ratio. It depends on the rest of your face. In general longer thin noses tend to make the lip width appear wider.
 
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I am an illiterate in aesthetics but no bro i think its not cope.

Mouth width itself might be mostly cope, ratio matters more always. (excluding extreme measurements from opposite endpoints)

Deciding solely by using primitive calculations doesnt give the right answer everytime.

I think i will make a post about this.
 
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The point is bigger isn’t always better. I can do 1.7 but it would be a very slight improvement Lorenzo descends with even 1.6 as you can see. After 1.3 the increase in psl from widening mouth is minimal esp if you have prettyboy aesthetics you could actually be decreasing your psl
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Its not bhai, it showers dominance on weaklings
 
Damn, wide mouths look very good
Zurzolo Chad af in the 1.8 ratio
 
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wide mouth is ideal
 
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Wide mouth is always better
 
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