It obviously won’t do as much as pulling in the tissue 8 hours a day, but if your consistent it can lead to some changes over the span of a couple of months as long as the small amount of time has consistent high tension, as strong as you can without damaging the tissue.
I thought about repeating the stretch several times a day, for example pulling as hard as I can for a few seconds every time I look in the mirror. Could it be effective?
At least 15 seconds, the only downside is that after stretching your face is all weird but if your not seeing anyone its insignificant.
I don't see big differences after stretching, in fact I look better with wider lips. Too bad that the effect does not last long.
Smile lines are a myth imo tbqh while what OP says about smiles lines worsening is true if you had no smile lines this wouldn't apply to you. For example the old guy has deeper smile lines in only one side of his face which is what worsened instead of the other, so in conclusion do it anyway cause the chances of you creating a new smile line is slim imo
Unfortunately I have, but Idk exactly if it's bc of the weight bc I never checked my lower bf, should I lower my bf and see what my case is or just do it anyway?? (Or not do it)
They're kinda shit but thanks yeah try losing bf first and see how deep they are I would say do it anyway thoughUnfortunately I have, but Idk exactly if it's bc of the weight bc I never checked my lower bf, should I lower my bf and see what my case is or just do it anyway?? (Or not do it)
btw I literally love u bhai, even before creating an account here I saw ur posts and they are wonderful
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yeah lol I know u did it kind of randomly, even though there are things that can be "cope" or not, I just thank you
I think there was another account doing the same thing (Idk if it was u) I just know that I've been seeing that for a long time, helped me when I was lost here and still helps me a lot, just wanted to express my gratitude
Just remember me haha that's enough again thank you so much this means a lotOk
yeah lol I know u did it kind of randomly, even though there are things that can be "cope" or not, I just thank you
It continued ugly asf but u have already helped me with a lot of things, I always owe u something
How to achieve a wider mouth!
Your mouth width is much more important than what you get told.
In this guide I'll explain how to get a fuller, bigger and especially wider mouth using only natural ways (none of which have negative side effects).
The mouth most of the time is disregarded when pointing out negative features on someone's face, but a wide mouth is enough to ascend an average looking guy. A wide, proportional and full mouth helps portray a more dominant and masculine expression.
Therefore, wide lips are preferred over narrow ones.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022103115300251
https://pinkmirror.com/blog/why-is-...h-width-to-nose-width-attractive-among-males/
Model with a wide vs narrow mouth.
Exactly the same photo just with a smaller mouth, the difference is extreme.
Examples of a preferred mouth width:
The perfect length for mouth width is 50-60 mm, or a better way to make sure your mouth width is desirable is by measuring the length from each corner of your mouth in proportion to the length from each extreme of your nose. Your mouth should be 1.6 times wider than your nose, therefore the proportion of your nose width to your mouth width should be around 1.6:1. This proportion only applies if your nose width is average.
This guide to increase width and size is mostly experimental and has little scientific backing. I can say that this has worked for me and many other people, and all of these methods have little to no negative effects so it won't hurt trying. I'm not going to include surgical procedures since this site is full of surgeries and they are much more spoken about. The best one i could find is lateral commissuroplasty, a surgical procedure that extends the corners of the mouth by making precise incisions and repositioning tissue to increase oral width and enhance facial harmony.
Mouth Stretching
To achieve the best results it is best to have a device (microstomia prevention splint) able to hold your mouth in an elongated position over a long period of time, every one to two weeks the length of the instrument should be increased by about 0.5 cm.
This is probably the only guide this detailed about this method. Ive seen it multiple times on this thread but has a few flaws ill address, (skip the guide to see flaws and solutions).
This device has a few problems, also due to the fact that it was custom made for the designer and only him. Many peoples skin and bodies will react differently since this prolonged stretching is not natural and can lead to issues in the future.
The delicate skin and mucosa around the oral commissures are not designed to withstand prolonged tension, which can result in microtears, irritation, inflammation, and even permanent tissue damage. Repeated stretching can also compromise the elasticity of the skin and underlying muscles, potentially leading to asymmetry, scarring, or chronic discomfort.
Another negative aspect of this is that it is extremely hard to find this product, if not impossible, and if you do find it, the price is just not worth it and the measurements are not always correct. Therefore you either custom make it or use a random object that won't work but will just promote wrinkles.
The prolonged pulling of the tissue will also lead to a more flappy skin and stronger smile lines, (as seen from the example his mouth did widen but his smile lines worsened.). Keeping your mouth open all day and especially at night can also lead to involuntary mouth breathing, that can lead to problems much worse than a narrow mouth.
Therefore, for most people (including me), the cons override the pros, but this won't make a narrow mouth disappear. I used to have a mouth to nose proportion of 1.1:1, now it's around 1.6:1. All these methods have been backed by other people and sites (and some have scientific backing too), none of these have negative effects apart from specific cases and allergies.
1. Moisturise.
Making sure your lips are constantly moisturised is the minimum to have healthy and plump lips, moisture can so slightly plump the edges of your mouth giving a wider look. Apart from that moisturising your lips gives a cleaner, smoother appearance and enhances overall appeal.
2. Drink a fuckton of water.
When well hydrated, your lips retain the moisture and remain full and healthy. It will help them look as big as possible while also remaining smooth and shiny, water will help avoid crusty lips, drying your lips will make them smaller. Think of your lips as a sponge, having the same effect when given water.
3. Brush your lips.
Apart from brushing off all the dead skin, keeping them healthy and bright, brushing your lips ever so slightly irritates them (as long as you brush them softly not too hard), making them appear bigger and fuller for the day. A small thing that has worked for me but I have never seen is brushing the corners of your mouth with the corners of the bristles of your toothbrush (only works with electric toothbrush), it acts as a small knife opening the corners of your mouth and over a long period of time can act as a mouth widening surgery following the same principles. Here it is ok to go a bit harder but remember you don't want to injure you're lips, if you notice scabbing or prolonged redness that won't go away after 5 minutes brush them a bit softer.
4. Make it a habit to puff your lips.
Slightly puffing your lips makes them look bigger, wider and fuller. Learn to do it so it becomes second nature, but remember to puff them only slightly, if not you will just look dumb and grumpy. If done correctly the expression will look natural and once you learn it you will feel weird not puffing them.
5. Stretching.
Do this before going to bed as it will make your face look puffed. It is a simple stretching routine that has helped me achieve wider lips. Pull them as far apart as you can for a minute (extra hard for the last 10 seconds) and release. Do this 3 times every night. Then for about 30 seconds pull the top corner and the bottom corner of your lips apart (you shouldn't need much force), do this for each corner twice. It will take a lot, but if you're consistent every night you should notice results after a couple of months or even just a few weeks. This stretching routine aims to gradually widen the mouth by applying repeated mechanical tension to the perioral tissues, particularly the orbicularis oris muscle and surrounding connective structures. Consistent, controlled stretching may stimulate a process known as mechanotransduction, where cells respond to physical forces by remodeling tissue, potentially increasing elasticity and soft tissue length over time. This is possible since our mouth is one of the stretchiest tissues in our body ( this is why we can do so many different expressions with our mouth).
6. Makeup.
I have not personally tried this, but if it works for women, why not for men. Make sure it is subtle and is aimed to make the width of the mouth bigger, not the height.
7. Slim your nose.
Slimming down your nose will reduce how big your mouth needs to be to fit the golden ratio. It will also make it appear bigger just due to the mouth now occupying more space than the nose and having a more 'influential role' on your face.
8. Slim down / debloat.
Just having a less chubby face makes your mouth seem bigger due to the fact it is occupying a larger % of your face. This is the same as sliming down your nose, just making the mouth more visible and important will make it appear bigger.
9. Volufiline
Volufiline is a cosmetic ingredient known for its ability to enhance lip volume by stimulating adipogenesis—the process through which fat cells grow and multiply. When applied volufiline penetrates the skin and activates lipid storage within fat cells, leading to increased fullness and plumpness over time. This volumizing effect not only makes the lips appear bigger and rounder but can also contribute to a slightly wider look due to the expansion of soft tissue. Apply an appropriate dosage every day before vaseline or lip balm.
As said I have personally tried each method (apart from makeup) and have had great results:
Before:
View attachment 3671281View attachment 3671284
After:
View attachment 3671283View attachment 3671286
(This took about 6 months, but results were rapid.)
There is everything you can possibly do to achieve a wider mouth, this is my first guide so id appreciate any support I can get, thanks to anyone who has read this.
How to achieve a wider mouth!
Your mouth width is much more important than what you get told.
In this guide I'll explain how to get a fuller, bigger and especially wider mouth using only natural ways (none of which have negative side effects).
The mouth most of the time is disregarded when pointing out negative features on someone's face, but a wide mouth is enough to ascend an average looking guy. A wide, proportional and full mouth helps portray a more dominant and masculine expression.
Therefore, wide lips are preferred over narrow ones.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022103115300251
https://pinkmirror.com/blog/why-is-...h-width-to-nose-width-attractive-among-males/
Model with a wide vs narrow mouth.
Exactly the same photo just with a smaller mouth, the difference is extreme.
Examples of a preferred mouth width:
The perfect length for mouth width is 50-60 mm, or a better way to make sure your mouth width is desirable is by measuring the length from each corner of your mouth in proportion to the length from each extreme of your nose. Your mouth should be 1.6 times wider than your nose, therefore the proportion of your nose width to your mouth width should be around 1.6:1. This proportion only applies if your nose width is average.
This guide to increase width and size is mostly experimental and has little scientific backing. I can say that this has worked for me and many other people, and all of these methods have little to no negative effects so it won't hurt trying. I'm not going to include surgical procedures since this site is full of surgeries and they are much more spoken about. The best one i could find is lateral commissuroplasty, a surgical procedure that extends the corners of the mouth by making precise incisions and repositioning tissue to increase oral width and enhance facial harmony.
Mouth Stretching
To achieve the best results it is best to have a device (microstomia prevention splint) able to hold your mouth in an elongated position over a long period of time, every one to two weeks the length of the instrument should be increased by about 0.5 cm.
This is probably the only guide this detailed about this method. Ive seen it multiple times on this thread but has a few flaws ill address, (skip the guide to see flaws and solutions).
This device has a few problems, also due to the fact that it was custom made for the designer and only him. Many peoples skin and bodies will react differently since this prolonged stretching is not natural and can lead to issues in the future.
The delicate skin and mucosa around the oral commissures are not designed to withstand prolonged tension, which can result in microtears, irritation, inflammation, and even permanent tissue damage. Repeated stretching can also compromise the elasticity of the skin and underlying muscles, potentially leading to asymmetry, scarring, or chronic discomfort.
Another negative aspect of this is that it is extremely hard to find this product, if not impossible, and if you do find it, the price is just not worth it and the measurements are not always correct. Therefore you either custom make it or use a random object that won't work but will just promote wrinkles.
The prolonged pulling of the tissue will also lead to a more flappy skin and stronger smile lines, (as seen from the example his mouth did widen but his smile lines worsened.). Keeping your mouth open all day and especially at night can also lead to involuntary mouth breathing, that can lead to problems much worse than a narrow mouth.
Therefore, for most people (including me), the cons override the pros, but this won't make a narrow mouth disappear. I used to have a mouth to nose proportion of 1.1:1, now it's around 1.6:1. All these methods have been backed by other people and sites (and some have scientific backing too), none of these have negative effects apart from specific cases and allergies.
1. Moisturise.
Making sure your lips are constantly moisturised is the minimum to have healthy and plump lips, moisture can so slightly plump the edges of your mouth giving a wider look. Apart from that moisturising your lips gives a cleaner, smoother appearance and enhances overall appeal.
2. Drink a fuckton of water.
When well hydrated, your lips retain the moisture and remain full and healthy. It will help them look as big as possible while also remaining smooth and shiny, water will help avoid crusty lips, drying your lips will make them smaller. Think of your lips as a sponge, having the same effect when given water.
3. Brush your lips.
Apart from brushing off all the dead skin, keeping them healthy and bright, brushing your lips ever so slightly irritates them (as long as you brush them softly not too hard), making them appear bigger and fuller for the day. A small thing that has worked for me but I have never seen is brushing the corners of your mouth with the corners of the bristles of your toothbrush (only works with electric toothbrush), it acts as a small knife opening the corners of your mouth and over a long period of time can act as a mouth widening surgery following the same principles. Here it is ok to go a bit harder but remember you don't want to injure you're lips, if you notice scabbing or prolonged redness that won't go away after 5 minutes brush them a bit softer.
4. Make it a habit to puff your lips.
Slightly puffing your lips makes them look bigger, wider and fuller. Learn to do it so it becomes second nature, but remember to puff them only slightly, if not you will just look dumb and grumpy. If done correctly the expression will look natural and once you learn it you will feel weird not puffing them.
5. Stretching.
Do this before going to bed as it will make your face look puffed. It is a simple stretching routine that has helped me achieve wider lips. Pull them as far apart as you can for a minute (extra hard for the last 10 seconds) and release. Do this 3 times every night. Then for about 30 seconds pull the top corner and the bottom corner of your lips apart (you shouldn't need much force), do this for each corner twice. It will take a lot, but if you're consistent every night you should notice results after a couple of months or even just a few weeks. This stretching routine aims to gradually widen the mouth by applying repeated mechanical tension to the perioral tissues, particularly the orbicularis oris muscle and surrounding connective structures. Consistent, controlled stretching may stimulate a process known as mechanotransduction, where cells respond to physical forces by remodeling tissue, potentially increasing elasticity and soft tissue length over time. This is possible since our mouth is one of the stretchiest tissues in our body ( this is why we can do so many different expressions with our mouth).
6. Makeup.
I have not personally tried this, but if it works for women, why not for men. Make sure it is subtle and is aimed to make the width of the mouth bigger, not the height.
7. Slim your nose.
Slimming down your nose will reduce how big your mouth needs to be to fit the golden ratio. It will also make it appear bigger just due to the mouth now occupying more space than the nose and having a more 'influential role' on your face.
8. Slim down / debloat.
Just having a less chubby face makes your mouth seem bigger due to the fact it is occupying a larger % of your face. This is the same as sliming down your nose, just making the mouth more visible and important will make it appear bigger.
9. Volufiline
Volufiline is a cosmetic ingredient known for its ability to enhance lip volume by stimulating adipogenesis—the process through which fat cells grow and multiply. When applied volufiline penetrates the skin and activates lipid storage within fat cells, leading to increased fullness and plumpness over time. This volumizing effect not only makes the lips appear bigger and rounder but can also contribute to a slightly wider look due to the expansion of soft tissue. Apply an appropriate dosage every day before vaseline or lip balm.
As said I have personally tried each method (apart from makeup) and have had great results:
Before:
View attachment 3671281View attachment 3671284
After:
View attachment 3671283View attachment 3671286
(This took about 6 months, but results were rapid.)
There is everything you can possibly do to achieve a wider mouth, this is my first guide so id appreciate any support I can get, thanks to anyone who has read this.
Volufilline and voluplus are both products ive seen recommended everywhere and can be used for much more. Retinol (0.1-0.3%) is also good to stimulate collagen and make your lips appear more smooth and healthy by eliminating fine wrinkles and imperfections. I found an article that claims that over time retinol can also hep plump your lips more. Any oils, lip serums and balms are also a great alternative but I guess they can just be seen as moisturising. A PCA Skin Hyaluronic Acid Lip Booster has also been mentioned a multitude of times when looking at lip health and 'plumpiness', a good one it is more on the expensive side but if it helps you slay fuck it. Alongside with whatever product you use remember it will never work without the correct nutrition, so always stay extremely hydrated, and keep your vitamin C, zinc, copper, omega 3 and saturated fats levels at an appropriate amount.
Finally seeing a grey doing a great post
