Is natty lifting cope? If so why?

[martin15]

I have been lifting for like a month now and im noticing a lot of improvements to my physique but i see a lot of people saying its cope so im curious why they say that

 

[AmazighMaxxer]

the short answer is because they are retarded

 

[blindr]

I have been lifting for like a month now and im noticing a lot of improvements to my physique but i see a lot of people saying its cope so im curious why they say that

depends on genetics someone unlucky w really bad genetics could lift for 3 months and see the same imrpovments u did in only 1 month but at the end of the day i believe being enhanced is the way bc u can do it safely and stay super healthy with no problems

 

[ACNECell7]

I have been lifting for like a month now and im noticing a lot of improvements to my physique but i see a lot of people saying its cope so im curious why they say that

if you are a fat chud who doesn't know how to recomp yes. You'd need gear and peps like TRT, Reta, HGH, Var, Mast to ascend and look monger asf.

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

if you are a fat chud who doesn't know how to recomp yes. You'd need gear and peps like TRT, Reta, HGH, Var, Mast to ascend and look monger asf.

Don't need roids to ascend, only to get really big/huge. Most SMV benefits already cap out at what you achieve as natty after some years, if roiding all you need is moderate-high dose of test anything bigger than that definitely doesn't boost SMV at all, eventually you just become ogre and deformed. But if you really want to bulk up fast or get big truly then roids are the way to go, everything else is cope. Natty grind isn't that bad just lots of retards do high frequency and volume and burn out IMO, I got a decent natty physique with good reviews and spam sharing by women in my region and I only workout 2x a week.

Also hair and good skin are sooooo important most guys will literally bald on anything but testosterone + dutasteride, some slower some faster than others. Balding one of the worst things you can do for SMV and appealing to women!! Steroids forums are full of guys that went bald in spite of using fin/dut + minoxidil + RU on heavy cycles so even with RU far from guaranteed you can prevent balding. Nobody even knows how well it competes with other very potent AR agonists lol.. plus it is topical and hard to use. Even some guys on soy T levels failed to stop hair loss with it on places like r/tressless I believe so..

I got other goals than roids but if someone wants to roid go for it just make sure it doesn't cause hair loss even if slowly or causes lots of acne of pizza face. That shit tanks you net more than the benefits of big muscles do. Also if roiding stay lean don't bulk like a pig and become builtfatso, you literally don't need bulk to get big on roids especially lol. Even as natty is is cope as fuck that descends you overall.

 

[ACNECell7]

Don't need roids to ascend, only to get really big/huge. Most SMV benefits already cap out at what you achieve as natty after some years, if roiding all you need is moderate-high dose of test anything bigger than that definitely doesn't boost SMV at all, eventually you just become ogre and deformed. But if you really want to bulk up fast or get big truly then roids are the way to go, everything else is cope. Natty grind isn't that bad just lots of retards do high frequency and volume and burn out IMO, I got a decent natty physique with good reviews and spam sharing by women in my region and I only workout 2x a week.

Also hair and good skin are sooooo important most guys will literally bald on anything but testosterone + dutasteride, some slower some faster than others. Balding one of the worst things you can do for SMV and appealing to women!! Steroids forums are full of guys that went bald in spite of using fin/dut + minoxidil + RU on heavy cycles so even with RU far from guaranteed you can prevent balding. Nobody even knows how well it competes with other very potent AR agonists lol.. plus it is topical and hard to use. Even some guys on soy T levels failed to stop hair loss with it on places like r/tressless I believe so..

I got other goals than roids but if someone wants to roid go for it just make sure it doesn't cause hair loss even if slowly or causes lots of acne of pizza face. That shit tanks you net more than the benefits of big muscles do. Also if roiding stay lean don't bulk like a pig and become builtfatso, you literally don't need bulk to get big on roids especially lol. Even as natty is is cope as fuck that descends you overall.

agreed brotha but for a guy with below average genetics gear can help a lot. And im not talking about taking 500 test, more like TRT which is a healthmaxx if you compare past test levels. And def test can get expensive when you have to run compounds like Accutane, dut, Ru to run without sides. That's why I feel as if you train from an early age like 13 then when you're 18 you can have a nice aesthetic lean look with dense muscle and not need roids.