Is oral or injectable test better?

[Rt-Rust1]

Which one gives you more gains and which one has more side effects

 

[Blackgymmax]

Inject

 

[Rt-Rust1]

Inject

Can explain the differences?

 

[Blackgymmax]

Can explain the differences?

Orals are too toxic to run for months. People on gear usually run month + cycles

 

[Blackgymmax]

Btw don't listen to anyone who speaks of 12 week bulking cycles. Completely new stupid novices

 

[Deleted member 23558]

I use transdermal but oral test without esters can be good.

 

[Rt-Rust1]

Btw don't listen to anyone who speaks of 12 week bulking cycles. Completely new stupid novices

So what? I don't wanna go wacko neither, just 100-50mg a week at most but probably just 25mg jfl. What is the minimal amount of time you recommend

 

[Rt-Rust1]

I use transdermal but oral test without esters can be good.

What are esters. I checked it out, nigga @BrahminBoss

 

[Rt-Rust1]

So what? I don't wanna go wacko neither, just 100-50mg a week at most but probably just 25mg jfl. What is the minimal amount of time you recommend

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[Blackgymmax]

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Still too toxic to do for months on end

 

[Rt-Rust1]

Still too toxic to do for months on end

My main reason for using oral is that you can regulate the doses. What do you do with 100mg dials if you wanna use just half of it? Do you inject half a dial and save it for next week? Jfl

 

[5.5psl]

Btw don't listen to anyone who speaks of 12 week bulking cycles. Completely new stupid novices

Yeah bro you should have a 12 year bulking cycle to gain 10 pounds of muscle

 

[5.5psl]

My main reason for using oral is that you can regulate the doses. What do you do with 100mg dials if you wanna use just half of it? Do you inject half a dial and save it for next week? Jfl

The only reason for you to take oral is you are too much of a pussy to inject
Get ahead of the fear of injecting nigga injectable >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oral test

 

[Rt-Rust1]

The only reason for you to take oral is you are too much of a pussy to inject
Get ahead of the fear of injecting nigga injectable >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oral test

I don't give a shit tbh my only concern is dividing the doses

 

[looksmaxxer14]

My main reason for using oral is that you can regulate the doses. What do you do with 100mg dials if you wanna use just half of it? Do you inject half a dial and save it for next week? Jfl

yes, you preload the next syringe..

 

[Rt-Rust1]

yes, you preload the next syringe..

I don't know if u are joking but this is still my main concern

 

[MentalistKebab]

Btw don't listen to anyone who speaks of 12 week bulking cycles. Completely new stupid novices

This. Cycling and PCT'ing is the biggest meme in roid community. Being on gear means being on TRT.

If you are planning to PCT you might as well not use any, since you wont get bigger than your natural potential, and you will lose at least half of the gains in the PCT, so all you end up with is a natty physique with a fucked up endocrine system, so even lower body composition.

 

[Deleted member 4209]

This. Cycling and PCT'ing is the biggest meme in roid community. Being on gear means being on TRT.

If you are planning to PCT you might as well not use any, since you wont get bigger than your natural potential, and you will lose at least half of the gains in the PCT, so all you end up with is a natty physique with a fucked up endocrine system, so even lower body composition.

aesthetics guys who say they want to "do one cycle and hit the natty limit then come off" this NEVER happens. 1 of 2 things happens either they stay on for life (B&Cing, not even trt), or they come off the stuff and quit lifting cos they look dyel.
Strength guys who come off seem to mentally deal better. eg. pete rubish. He's a top tier PLer who came totally off after a 10 yr perma blast but still lifts (big weights too) because he wants to lift, not cos wants a look.

in general no serious ppl cycle this is Flex magazine tier meme bluepilled advice. ppl blast and cruise and BBers/strongmen at the top level dont even cruise, and possibly don't even count what they use.

 

[Rt-Rust1]

This. Cycling and PCT'ing is the biggest meme in roid community. Being on gear means being on TRT.

If you are planning to PCT you might as well not use any, since you wont get bigger than your natural potential, and you will lose at least half of the gains in the PCT, so all you end up with is a natty physique with a fucked up endocrine system, so even lower body composition.

aesthetics guys who say they want to "do one cycle and hit the natty limit then come off" this NEVER happens. 1 of 2 things happens either they stay on for life (B&Cing, not even trt), or they come off the stuff and quit lifting cos they look dyel.
Strength guys who come off seem to mentally deal better. eg. pete rubish. He's a top tier PLer who came totally off after a 10 yr perma blast but still lifts (big weights too) because he wants to lift, not cos wants a look.

in general no serious ppl cycle this is Flex magazine tier meme bluepilled advice. ppl blast and cruise and BBers/strongmen at the top level dont even cruise, and possibly don't even count what they use.

I just wanna microdose 25 mg a week. I don't even care about the gains I just want the non-visual benefits (not the muscles but the other stuff that comes with steroids, mood, etc)

 

[looksmaxxer14]

I don't know if u are joking but this is still my main concern

i am not joking..

 

[Osie]

This. Cycling and PCT'ing is the biggest meme in roid community. Being on gear means being on TRT.

If you are planning to PCT you might as well not use any, since you wont get bigger than your natural potential, and you will lose at least half of the gains in the PCT, so all you end up with is a natty physique with a fucked up endocrine system, so even lower body composition.

things like this make it seems so pointless to roid. Like it's just a constant negative feedback loop no matter what you do.

 

[MentalistKebab]

things like this make it seems so pointless to roid. Like it's just a constant negative feedback loop no matter what you do.

Its a negative feedback loop if you try 1 cycle and PCT, if you cruise on average TRT you will cut of 5-10 year from your life (which lets be real not really importants), and harm your most important soft features, skin and hair depending on your genes, but you will have the fake natty insta physique with little effort and a bad diet, so its a good trade for some people while bad for others.

Note : blasting between cycles is also mostly stupid, because your body is not about what you have in precomps or in few months of the year, but what you have in daily life.

aesthetics guys who say they want to "do one cycle and hit the natty limit then come off" this NEVER happens. 1 of 2 things happens either they stay on for life (B&Cing, not even trt), or they come off the stuff and quit lifting cos they look dyel.

This tbh, but trt also do the same thing with BnC if he doesnt have a literal zero training regiment.

Strength guys who come off seem to mentally deal better. eg. pete rubish. He's a top tier PLer who came totally off after a 10 yr perma blast but still lifts (big weights too) because he wants to lift, not cos wants a look.

in general no serious ppl cycle this is Flex magazine tier meme bluepilled advice. ppl blast and cruise and BBers/strongmen at the top level dont even cruise, and possibly don't even count what they use.

Yeah but who tf cares about strongmans or open BBers, maximum goal here is to be Jeff Seid/ Mike o Hearn tier real fake natty, anything more is simply damaging your health for no benefits.

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