Is Ramieri to conservative with Bimax?

[extremchange628181]

I am very receded and need a surgeon who can really bring my jaw forward. I've seen good results from Ramieri but alfaro for example is even more extreme and aggressive when it comes to moving the lower jaw forward. what would you say is Ramieri still gtg?

 

[FrenchareMedCucks]

he is legit because he does good planning and good CCW or CW relative to your needs. He does bonegrafting which is a huge plus, can impact maxilla with posterior downgraft and anterior impaction. I don't know if he is doing custom plates.

however he is cheapest amongst the best, good planning and not risk to be botched like Alfaro ( banana looking jaw )

Pagnoni and Raffaini are other good choices too.

 

[extremchange628181]

don't know if he is doing custom plates.

He does

 

[extremchange628181]

Pagnoni and Raffaini are other good choices too.

And Zarrinbal

 

[politically correct]

I had 14mm advancement of mandible + genio, 3.5mm of maxilla and i wasnt recessed at all

 

[extremchange628181]

I had 14mm advancement of mandible + genio, 3.5mm of maxilla and i wasnt recessed at all

How much did you pay and did you need braces

 

[politically correct]

How much did you pay and did you need braces

19k euros, as mine was custom as i had widening

no braces, just invisalign post, no teeth removal

 

[extremchange628181]

19k euros, as mine was custom as i had widening

no braces, just invisalign post, no teeth removal

I just Hope he does not raise his prices because I First Need to make 15k lol

 

[extremchange628181]

19k euros, as mine was custom as i had widening

no braces, just invisalign post, no teeth removal

How did you earn that money btw.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

no braces, just invisalign post, no teeth removal

How aligned were your teeth prior to surgery?

 

[materialistic]

I had 14mm advancement of mandible + genio, 3.5mm of maxilla and i wasnt recessed at all

Why did you have bimax if you weren't recessed at first place.

 

[extremchange628181]

Why did you have bimax if you weren't recessed at first place.

True

 

[12PSLsubhuman]

True

Also I would go to Ramieri because 1) he rarely botches 2) yah he is kinda conservative but he produced one of the best bimax results ever that was on a patient who didn't have some condition like SFS or overbite

 

[extremchange628181]

Also I would go to Ramieri because 1) he rarely botches 2) yah he is kinda conservative but he produced one of the best bimax results ever that was on a patient who didn't have some condition like SFS or overbite

Okay i agree but I am concerned he will raise his prices:/

 

[extremchange628181]

Also I would go to Ramieri because 1) he rarely botches 2) yah he is kinda conservative but he produced one of the best bimax results ever that was on a patient who didn't have some condition like SFS or overbite

Because If I have 15k it takes around 1-2 years

 

[politically correct]

How aligned were your teeth prior to surgery?

perfectly, had some crowding on the lowers, surgery left me with a mild open bite (cant be seen from the front only from below)

 

[politically correct]

Why did you have bimax if you weren't recessed at first place.

To increase projection/forward growth, width. I wasn't recessed but I was quite flat faced and slightly downward grown. My gonial angle is much better now due to the ccw

 

[Deleted member 18582]

perfectly, had some crowding on the lowers, surgery left me with a mild open bite (cant be seen from the front only from below)

is the post surgery invisalign going to fix it

 

[politically correct]

is the post surgery invisalign going to fix it

yes

 

[extremchange628181]

To increase projection/forward growth, width. I wasn't recessed but I was quite flat faced and slightly downward grown. My gonial angle is much better now due to the ccw

Did Ramieri worked with your local orthodontist

 

[politically correct]

Did Ramieri worked with your local orthodontist

yes

 

[extremchange628181]

yes

I can ask my orthodontist but I dont think she is willing to work with Ramieri because he is in another country and I am just doing it for aesthetic reasons

 

[extremchange628181]

yes

Do you think I really need a orthodontist :///

 

[extremchange628181]

yes

There arent any blackpilled orthodontist in Germany

 

[politically correct]

Do you think I really need a orthodontist :///

i dont know, ask dr ramieri he can tell you if you are a surgery first case

 

[Deleted member 3679]

He seems to be a bit on the conservative side yes but won't overadvance you like Alfaro.

 

[dogfightmillenial]

I had 14mm advancement of mandible + genio, 3.5mm of maxilla and i wasnt recessed at all

Big overbite to begin with tho? I want big forwards and downwards mandible movement but dont know what my midface can handle for movement.

 

[dakchuh]

To increase projection/forward growth, width. I wasn't recessed but I was quite flat faced and slightly downward grown. My gonial angle is much better now due to the ccw

what do you mean width? you had bone graft in your lower jaw to make it wider?

 

[politically correct]

Big overbite to begin with tho? I want big forwards and downwards mandible movement but dont know what my midface can handle for movement.

no my bite was fine

 

[politically correct]

what do you mean width? you had bone graft in your lower jaw to make it wider?

like this

 

[12PSLsubhuman]

he is legit because he does good planning and good CCW or CW relative to your needs. He does bonegrafting which is a huge plus, can impact maxilla with posterior downgraft and anterior impaction. I don't know if he is doing custom plates.

however he is cheapest amongst the best, good planning and not risk to be botched like Alfaro ( banana looking jaw )

Pagnoni and Raffaini are other good choices too.

Who would you say is the best if money wasn't an issue

 

[extremchange628181]

I would say Coceancig or Sailor

 

[extremchange628181]

Who would you say is the best if money wasn't an issue

I would say Coceancig or Sailor