Is suicide ever actually justified and reasonable? Or only as a result of mental illness?

[LOST18yearold]

Thoughts?

 

[startingover]

Thoughts?

Suicide is only justified if you have a severe terminal illness (e.g; cancer)
If you always in extreme pain, for hours on end, then yes suicide is a fair option.
If you want to kill yourself or feeling suicidal, try every option, for example; workout or increase your T levels, go outside or take vitamin d, eat nutrition dense meals, make friends, have hobbies and etc
Don't take pills, it's a money sink and it gives a false sense of hope. Also, pills cause a placebo effect where you think you feel better, but in reality, an hour or two from now you will be back at square 1.

 

[LOST18yearold]

Suicide is only justified if you have a severe terminal illness (e.g; cancer)
If you always in extreme pain, for hours on end, then yes suicide is a fair option.
If you want to kill yourself or feeling suicidal, try every option, for example; workout or increase your T levels, go outside or take vitamin d, eat nutrition dense meals, make friends, have hobbies and etc
Don't take pills, it's a money sink and it gives a false sense of hope. Also, pills cause a placebo effect where you think you feel better, but in reality, an hour or two from now you will be back at square 1.

So suicide wouldn’t make rational sense in my case? I’m 18, with a body count of two, but have no friends, had pretty bad drug use problems, and have so many regrets in the past.

 

[startingover]

So suicide wouldn’t make rational sense in my case? I’m 18, with a body count of two, but have no friends, had pretty bad drug use problems, and have so many regrets in the past.

Yes, it wouldnt
Your man, your true personality sets in around 30, but for women they mature much more quicker
still have time to improve yourself socially wise, you can fix a drug habit, you need to work hard and push youself

 

[LOST18yearold]

Yes, it wouldnt

But I feel to my inner core there is so rational reason for me to live, and I can’t wrap my head around why, but it’s been this way for awhile now

 

[startingover]

But I feel to my inner core there is so rational reason for me to live, and I can’t wrap my head around why, but it’s been this way for awhile now

re read my edited comment

 

[Deleted member 17791]

So suicide wouldn’t make rational sense in my case? I’m 18, with a body count of two, but have no friends, had pretty bad drug use problems, and have so many regrets in the past.

Go out and exercise, it helps with dopamine. You're probably decent looking, so you shouldn't have trouble building up a social circle.

You just need to get the ball rolling in the right direction.

 

[startingover]

But I feel to my inner core there is so rational reason for me to live, and I can’t wrap my head around why, but it’s been this way for awhile now

I thought i was doom to fail, I genuinely thought that, and believed it
I did shit in school, i had no friends, and i was fat
but I change my life around, exercising, getting good sleep, eating, meditating, getting sunlight, studying hard
now I am going to one of the best unis in the my country.
we all go through rough times, killing yourself over something minor is retarded, I laugh at the thoughts i wanted to rope

 

[LOST18yearold]

I thought i was doom to fail, I genuinely thought that, and believed it
I did shit in school, i had no friends, and i was fat
but I change my life around, exercising, getting good sleep, eating, meditating, getting sunlight, studying hard
now I am going to one of the best unis in the my country.
we all go through rough times, killing yourself over something minor is retarded, I laugh at the thoughts i wanted to rope

If you abused a hard drug tho, is that something minor? I’ve quit now but I’m sad of how young I was when I did it, and it brings me shame

 

[startingover]

If you abused a hard drug tho, is that something minor? I’ve quit now but I’m sad of how young I was when I did it, and it brings me shame

You should be proud that you quit using drugs, you shouldn't be ashamed, what you did wasn't good.
But drugs usage stems from hanging around in a negative environment.
Be proud of yourself, drug usage isn't something is to get over.
People cannot get over drug usage, and they end up dying.
I am sorry if you misunderstood me, I didn't say drug usage is minor and I talking about something else, my bad.

 

[Deleted member 17791]

If you abused a hard drug tho, is that something minor? I’ve quit now but I’m sad of how young I was when I did it, and it brings me shame

You're lucky that you had the will power to quit that shit. Many people get stuck with that stuff and become Gauls. Focus on your path to recovery.

 

[LOST18yearold]

You're lucky that you had the will power to quit that shit. Many people get stuck with that stuff and become Gauls. Focus on your path to recovery.

I’m nervous I could slip up in the future and that makes me depressed and anxious. It’s been 6 months off all that

You should be proud that you quit using drugs, you shouldn't be ashamed, what you did wasn't good.
But drugs usage stems from hanging around in a negative environment.
Be proud of yourself, drug usage isn't something is to get over.
People cannot get over drug usage, and they end up dying.
I am sorry if you misunderstood me, I didn't say drug usage is minor and I talking about something else, my bad.

 

[Deleted member 16101]

It can take up to 2 years clean to recover from hard drug addiction
It's normal to feel suicidal during this recovery period but it's only temporary

 

[startingover]

@LOST18yearold
One thing you have to accept is that, there will be times you have fight alone. In the meanwhile, it might seem like your in hell, but at the end of it you will be a stronger person, and you will appreciate life, also there will you make a life long friend from this

 

[LOST18yearold]

I

It can take up to 2 years clean to recover from hard drug addiction
It's normal to feel suicidal during this recovery period but it's only temporary

was only it for 4 months tho. It’s been 6 months off it now, still feel like it

 

[Deleted member 17791]

I’m nervous I could slip up in the future and that makes me depressed and anxious. It’s been 6 months off all that

You might, we all have to accept our weaknesses, that's what allows us to rise above them.

 

[Deleted member 16101]

I

was only it for 4 months tho. It’s been 6 months off it now, still feel like it

Was it meth? Yeah that's rough bro this shit will be one of the hardest things a person can go through

 

[LOST18yearold]

Was it meth? Yeah that's rough bro this shit will be one of the hardest things a person can go through

Yes it was. You’ve seen it personally from being psyche major?

 

[Deleted member 4430]

If you have no way how could you improve your situation and you suffer with some mental illness, then maybe its a better option.

 

[startingover]

I’m nervous I could slip up in the future and that makes me depressed and anxious. It’s been 6 months off all that

Your alone, you have no outside forces trying to force to take drugs, your alone now its your time to improve make yourself into a man that you will proud of

 

[Deleted member 16101]

Yes it was. You’ve seen it personally from being psyche major?

Well I've seen all kinds of drug abuse/addiction/recovery as a medical student, I'm graduating in 2 months
In the psych ward I've seen several people who tried to kill themselves on the comedown from cocaine which is brutal asf
Stay strong lil homie you already made it this far you can do this bruh

 

[LOST18yearold]

Your alone, you have no outside forces trying to force to take drugs, your alone now its your time to improve make yourself into a man that you will proud of

I keep thinking of my friend who screwed me over and got me started on that shit. You saw the thread about the pink haired incel dude? It was him. I keep thinking of my revenge all day

 

[LOST18yearold]

Well I've seen all kinds of drug abuse/addiction/recovery as a medical student, I'm graduating in 2 months
In the psych ward I've seen several people who tried to kill themselves on the comedown from cocaine which is brutal asf
Stay strong lil homie you already made it this far you can do this bruh

You genuinely don’t think it’s over tho? Or worth roping right?

 

[Deleted member 16101]

You genuinely don’t think it’s over tho? Or worth roping right?

no bro your neurotransmitters are fucked up right now from the drugs
you will be grateful after you've made it through this

 

[startingover]

I keep thinking of my friend who screwed me over and got me started on that shit. You saw the thread about the pink haired incel dude? It was him. I keep thinking of my revenge all day

Meditate
try to erase him out of your mind, if his doing meth then his getting revenge on himself then, let him suffer.
thats the best way to get revenge, please for the love god, dont do anything retarded like trying to kill him or some shit.

 

[startingover]

no bro your neurotransmitters are fucked up right now from the drugs
you will be grateful after you've made it through this

It will be difficult, but just think of the pay off @LOST18yearold

 

[LOST18yearold]

Meditate
try to erase him out of your mind, if his doing meth then his getting revenge on himself then, let him suffer.
thats the best way to get revenge, please for the love god, dont do anything retarded like trying to kill him or some shit.

You think destroying his property would be retarded?

 

[startingover]

You think destroying his property would be retarded?

please do not get a felony!
its not worth it, you will just dig a deeper that will harder to climb out

 

[LOST18yearold]

please do not get a felony!
its not worth it, you will just dig a deeper that will harder to climb out

I wouldn’t get caught that’s the thing. But ever since December when I cut him off I think of him all day. Does meditation really help?

 

[startingover]

I wouldn’t get caught that’s the thing. But ever since December when I cut him off I think of him all day. Does meditation really help?

Yes bro, Meditate for 5 mins a day watch some vids on it, and listen to meditating music. Keeping do this for a week you will feel so much better. It helped me out so fucking much, you wont believe it man.

I wouldn’t get caught that’s the thing

It doesn't matter your doing a degenerative thing, it just a loser thing to do.
Leave him alone, he might or might not od on meth who knows. Just try to erase him out of your mind.

 

[Deleted member 17748]

So suicide wouldn’t make rational sense in my case? I’m 18, with a body count of two, but have no friends, had pretty bad drug use problems, and have so many regrets in the past.

Bro most of us have BODY COUNT OF 0

 

[LOST18yearold]

Bro most of us have BODY COUNT OF 0

Yeah I know In that regard I’m ok but rest of my life sucks

 

[startingover]

Yeah I know In that regard I’m ok but rest of my life sucks

and you can make the other rest heaven, if you just start now.
I would seriously advise you to delete account, make money, and starting improving yourself

 

[Alt Number 3]

ur 18. Rope when ur like 35 or sumn.

 

[LOST18yearold]

Yes bro, Meditate for 5 mins a day watch some vids on it, and listen to meditating music. Keeping do this for a week you will feel so much better. It helped me out so fucking much, you wont believe it man.


It doesn't matter your doing a degenerative thing, it just a loser thing to do.
Leave him alone, he might or might not od on meth who knows. Just try to erase him out of your mind.

Hmm you really don’t think I need to get justice for what he did to me? That’s the part that pisses me off, ever since I quit I’ve been trying to be positive, gym 6 times a week, nootropics, thinking of my adult life, but he still lives rent free

 

[LOST18yearold]

ur 18. Rope when ur like 35 or sumn.

18 is way too young?

 

[fate and destiny]

just realized this dudes name is mahers taint wtf

 

[startingover]

Hmm you really don’t think I need to get justice for what he did to me? That’s the part that pisses me off, ever since I quit I’ve been trying to be positive, gym 6 times a week, nootropics, thinking of my adult life, but he still lives rent free

thats why I say meditating is going to help you bro
trust me just try for it for a week

 

[fate and destiny]

yeah this is why meth is bad . i wouldnt do it again unless i knew for sure i was gonna die within the next 24hrs

 

[LOST18yearold]

yeah this is why meth is bad . i wouldnt do it again unless i knew for sure i was gonna die within the next 24hrs

Is life ruined once you’ve done meth? And you’ve done it before too?

 

[LOST18yearold]

thats why I say meditating is going to help you bro
trust me just try for it for a week

Yeah I’m going to try it for sure. But you really mean that when you say no point getting revenge on him?

 

[startingover]

Yeah I’m going to try it for sure. But you really mean that when you say no point getting revenge on him?

ralk to me after a week of meditation

 

[fate and destiny]

Is life ruined once you’ve done meth? And you’ve done it before too?

yeah i was addicted for a bit

don't worry one day you will wake up and the feeling of despair will be gone

it might come back in waves sometimes, but yeah

my life is ruined, but not because of meth lol

 

[Deleted member 4430]

my life is ruined, but not because of meth lo

Beacause of what?

 

[LOST18yearold]

yeah i was addicted for a bit

don't worry one day you will wake up and the feeling of despair will be gone

it might come back in waves sometimes, but yeah

my life is ruined, but not because of meth lol

How long were you on it for? I was on adderall from October to middle of January 2021. Then meth from late January to early may. And did it a few more times between then and October

 

[fate and destiny]

Beacause of what?

don't wanna go into details, last time i tried that people just used it as ammo against me

 

[fate and destiny]

How long were you on it for? I was on adderall from October to middle of January 2021. Then meth from late January to early may. And did it a few more times between then and October

like

1 year and a bit

took it orally

a point every morning just to get through work

 

[LOST18yearold]

like

1 year and a bit

took it orally

a point every morning just to get through work

Did you ever smoke or snort it? I snorted it first two months. From April to may I smoked it and that changed the game. Did you quit on your own or go to a rehab?

 

[Deleted member 2382]

In this situation it's justified

 

[Deleted member 18086]

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