Is surgery even worth it if you are old?

[powerliftercoco]

at what point does surgery become stupid over the age of 25?

if you already have a long term gf, a good paying job (with no real way of scaling it via looks), and a good social circle

what benefit would it give going from HTN to Chadlite if even with 10 surgeries real Chad is out of the picture?

the younger you are the more worth it surgeries are since you have nothing yet, but when is too old too old?

if you not interested in the topic then skip the tag, just wanted to know your opinion: @Bitchwhipper2 @thecaste @Alexanderr @SoundnVision @Yliaster

 

[powerliftercoco]

@Mainlander curious about what you think too

 

[Amuzant]

How old are we talking, some procedures age increases risk significantly.

 

[niggaboy0321]

I hope I complete all my face surgeries goal, before the age of 25.

 

[powerliftercoco]

How old are we talking, some procedures age increases risk significantly.

I wrote over 25 in the thread, but in reality I mean an age where you already have most of your life layed out

In the dating department for example, if you already have a long term gf, you wouldn’t leave her after years just to be with a girl who mogs her by a tiny bit just because you ascended 1 rank

You get what I mean?

When is enough enough?

 

[Amuzant]

I wrote over 25 in the thread, but in reality I mean an age where you already have most of your life layed out

In the dating department for example, if you already have a long term gf, you wouldn’t leave her after years just to be with a girl who mogs her by a tiny bit just because you ascended 1 rank

You get what I mean?

When is enough enough?

Depends, if the surgery is such a minor flaw and you already have a loving partner why bother. But for instance youre 40 and your hairlines receeding more and more by the day i dont see why you wouldnt get a transplant etc

 

[dogshitinfras]

I think if ur at the age were ur aging is showing stuff like botox extc are to late but still surgery can make u better looking imo a having a gf and a good job would be irrelevant cuz surgery is for looks like imagine looking at ur self in the mirror looking all majestic

 

[SoundnVision]

If you're at least MTN not worth it.
After that it's how NT you are and your frame

 

[powerliftercoco]

Depends, if the surgery is such a minor flaw and you already have a loving partner why bother. But for instance youre 40 and your hairlines receeding more and more by the day i dont see why you wouldnt get a transplant etc

Yeah I’m talking about bigger riskier surgeries which take a while to plan and recover

Say you are capped at certain rank, so for example you are MTN but can never reach Chadlite, or you are HTN but can never reach Chad.

Would you go as far as getting tiny (but multiple) surgeries to make yourself as perfect as possible by attempting to fix all ratios to try to get 1 rank higher?

Would that even change your life anymore?

 

[powerliftercoco]

If you're at least MTN not worth it.
After that it's how NT you are and your frame

Exaxtly what I’m thinking

The older I get the more I experience this

Even softmaxxing takes you insanely far

 

[thecaste]

it mainly depends on relationship status, financial situation and career imo. looks halo can have an insane impact on how you are perceived in a professional setting (especially consulting/coaching and sales) but if you're working blue collar for example then don't even bother.
relationship status and money are kinda obvious: if you are happily married I don't see a reason for expensive and risky surgeries. same goes for a poor financial situation; if you're 25+ you shouldn't spend your money on looks if you can't afford it.

also: low risk procedures/meds like fillers, botox, finasteride, skincare, GLP-1's etc. yield more and more rewards as you get older. if you're 35 and have a good hairline and a good body you are already in the top 10%.

 

[Yliaster]

Not exactly sure how to answer this honestly, especially considering that everyone is going to have
a different Genetic Ceiling.

 

[powerliftercoco]

Not exactly sure how to answer this honestly, especially considering that everyone is going to have
a different Genetic Ceiling.

Yeah idk, I think I’ll always be addicted to thinking about looks and will never be able to leave it behind

Another issue is that I’ve never known a true chad IRL (there’s literally none in my city tbh) and don’t know how much different their lifes could possibly be compared to mine.

I see a bigger difference (in terms of treatment from friends, girls, work life, etc) from average dudes in my social circle to me, than from me to the biggest mogger in my city (who is still not even Chad)

 

[Gargantuan]

Wrong frame.

You're treating chronological age as if it's the variable that determines whether surgery is worth it, when it isn't.

https://looksmax.org/threads/stop-thinking-in-chronological-time.2188088/

 

[powerliftercoco]

Also: low risk procedures/meds like fillers, botox, finasteride, skincare, GLP-1's etc. yield more and more rewards as you get older. if you're 35 and have a good hairline and a good body you are already in the top 10%.

Even when young man, the amount of compliments I get for my white teeth (which is an easy fucking looksmax that no one has) is insane

No one is even lean, out of my 30 closest friends maybe 2 are shredded from sports, the rest have way too much body fat

And shitty skin

 

[powerliftercoco]

Wrong frame.

You're treating chronological age as if it's the variable that determines whether surgery is worth it, when it isn't.

https://looksmax.org/threads/stop-thinking-in-chronological-time.2188088/

It was just to try to get a point across, my main variable was the fact that most of my life is already layed out.

Fortunately I was given good genetics, but I’ve been doing a bunch of shit for my looks for a long time.

My main argument is if it even makes sense to pursue tiny improvements for minimal gain, since I don’t see anyone who is a bit better looking than me having a better life.

Do you personally see a lot of difference in life quality from above average dudes to the best looking people you have seen IRL? In your town or wherever.

Going from average to above average yields a crazy improvement, but what if you are already above average and cannot move up that much? Is it even worth it to take the risk to go from 70% to 80%?

 

[powerliftercoco]

^ maybe you can answer that too, since you have been in top tier cities with really good looking people @thecaste

“Do you personally see a lot of difference in life quality from above average dudes to the best looking people you have seen IRL?“

 

[thecaste]

^ maybe you can answer that too, since you have been in top tier cities with really good looking people @thecaste

“Do you personally see a lot of difference in life quality from above average dudes to the best looking people you have seen IRL?“

not really, to be completely honest with you. actually some of the best looking people I know struggle with mental health/substance abuse issues. in my opinion: status is the deciding factor when it comes to quality of life. I have a lot of very, very good looking female friends who are unable to assess the looks of a man correctly. as long as the man is above average and has high social status they will want to fuck him. funny anecdote: I was at a party a couple of months ago and there was a model that looked a lot like jordan barrett. the problem was: he was behaving like an absolute imbecile, had an airpod in one ear, was always standing in the corner with his friends sipping on some hennessy etc; just autistic behaviour. I asked my girlfriends if they found him hot and they all said "no way, he looks uncanny af". they ended up hooking up with some MTN's with good social status that night and the model went home alone. especially when it comes to very good looking and succesful women things like money and IQ are far more important than looks alone, trust me.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Surgery is never worth it

 

[SoundnVision]

Even when young man, the amount of compliments I get for my white teeth (which is an easy fucking looksmax that no one has) is insane

No one is even lean, out of my 30 closest friends maybe 2 are shredded from sports, the rest have way too much body fat

And shitty skin

You don't need to be autistically lean around 15% is lean irl, after that it's just having good skin and hair and your maxed out.

You're right about teeth, teeth whitening is the only thing left for me to do it would give me so much more confidence.
Mine are borderline yellow from years of smoking and drinking coffee.

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Depends on if your appearance is still holding you back either practically or emotionally

 

[Souleth]

Your life marginally gets better moving forward even if you're somewhat old. Obviously the younger you change, the better.

 

[Mainlander]

Use the money for other stuff tbh

 

[Gargantuan]

It was just to try to get a point across, my main variable was the fact that most of my life is already layed out.

Fortunately I was given good genetics, but I’ve been doing a bunch of shit for my looks for a long time.

My main argument is if it even makes sense to pursue tiny improvements for minimal gain, since I don’t see anyone who is a bit better looking than me having a better life.

Do you personally see a lot of difference in life quality from above average dudes to the best looking people you have seen IRL? In your town or wherever.

Going from average to above average yields a crazy improvement, but what if you are already above average and cannot move up that much? Is it even worth it to take the risk to go from 70% to 80%?

Fair enough. I interpreted the chronological age part as your central argument, when it sounds like your actual question is about diminishing returns.