Is surgery pretty much pointless unless you have a good base to begin with?

[NarcyChadlite]

I always read your posts in Adam Sandlers voice, so soothing haha. Thanks my man, every day every post I learn something new. Appreciate your input brother

 

[eduardkoopman]

Thank you for your input. The asymmetry I'm starting to think comes from my jaw being misaligned due to a recessed maxilla. Please check a few posts above you for a maxilla forward projection if it will change your mind

in side profile pic. if you draw a straight line down, from your browrigde. You have decentish forward growth. bot model tier. But not bad either. average forward growth

 

[CursedOne]

ive seen to many med slayers and samoan slayers
if your skin doesn't look ethnic, and you are good looking
you can slay

basically this. if you are ethnic like toni mahfud you can till slay

 

[Deleted member 616]

Let them be your motivation:

Both had multiple surgeries.

In your case I'd suggest :
Hair transplant
Castor oil on eyebrows / microblading
Almond eye surgery with ptosis removal, lower blepharoplasty and lateral canthoplasty
Rhino
Double jaw + chin wing osteotomy


Get looks or die.

 

[Germania]

Haha, check out my 2 posts above you. I'm starting to think my jaw is perfect, it's my recessed maxilla that's the issue

Your jaw bones are okish, but you need to eliminate the turtle neck, or the bones are useless. You have to find out what is the reason. Fat, loose skin or the platysma muscle.

The following solutions are available:

Fat -> lipolisis
Loose Skin -> surgery
Muscle -> Botox injection

 

[Deleted member 616]

Btw how have you been doing with women so far? Body count?

 

[Phoenix]

Btw how have you been doing with women so far? Body count?

Don't remember some, excluding hookers, maybe like 10-15, 3-4psl range. In my ethnic country I attract 5-6psl

 

[Phoenix]

Your jaw bones are okish, but you need to eliminate the turtle neck, or the bones are useless. You have to find out what is the reason. Fat, loose skin or the platysma muscle.

The following solutions are available:

Fat -> lipolisis
Loose Skin -> surgery
Muscle -> Botox injection

Did you see the new pics? or are you referring to them?

 

[Phoenix]

Let them be your motivation:
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Both had multiple surgeries.

In your case I'd suggest :
Hair transplant
Castor oil on eyebrows / microblading
Almond eye surgery with ptosis removal, lower blepharoplasty and lateral canthoplasty
Rhino
Double jaw + chin wing osteotomy


Get looks or die.

Just started looking into sastor oil on eyebrows / microblading, agreed on all counts, except for the get looks or die, there's still some hope for a lot of guys, there's always this haha



In 20 years we may even not need women anymore jfl
(I started watching this, and the dude said "in 20 years, this will be normal, holy damn on same mindset + like what he's saying)

 

[Deleted member 5683]

Don't remember some, excluding hookers, maybe like 10-15, 3-4psl range. In my ethnic country I attract 5-6psl

What country

 

[Phoenix]

What country

Middle East, Western Asia

 

[Deleted member 5683]

Middle East, Western Asia

Might middle East maxx

 

[Phoenix]

Might middle East maxx

I live in California, so looksmax is a lot more important. + I think it's mostly from having an american passport, gives me an exotic appeal

 

[Deleted member 5683]

I live in California, so looksmax is a lot more important. + I think it's mostly from having an american passport, gives me an exotic appeal

California is hypergamous AF. Hard to get laid if you're sub-chad

 

[Deleted member 8941]

ethnics are excluded because they are ugly, not because they are ethnic
a good looking ethnic is barely disadvantaged, atleast in my experience
if you are good looking, you are good looking

Good looking ethnic = Ethnic with caucasian facial features

 

[Phoenix]

California is hypergamous AF. Hard to get laid if you're sub-chad

I get lucky once in a while when a girl is on the rebound, or if my game is tight and they think I'm rich

 

[Phoenix]

Good looking ethnic = Ethnic with caucasian facial features

Pretty much. Gotta marry a white bitch for kids to have a fighting genetic chance

 

[Deleted member 6488]

no