Is test bad during puberty?

[iblameb]

Saw some clip on tt, I need the forum experts, not 15 year old kids to comment here.

The vid was saying that exogenous test is highly aromatizable, converts to estradiol closing plate growth, independent of ur bloodwork, even if u use an AI. A 2009 study showed that aromatize is expressed directly in osteoblasts. (PMID: 19257817).

The solution would be non-aromatizing androgenic compounds like anavar, tren, halo

What do u guys think? What is the solution to long term vertical growth?

 

[bIackpill]

Saw some clip on tt, I need the forum experts, not 15 year old kids to comment here.

The vid was saying that exogenous test is highly aromatizable, converts to estradiol closing plate growth, independent of ur bloodwork, even if u use an AI. A 2009 study showed that aromatize is expressed directly in osteoblasts. (PMID: 19257817).

The solution would be non-aromatizing androgenic compounds like anavar, tren, halo

What do u guys think? What is the solution to long term vertical growth?

just inhibit ERa
also saying that its independent of ur bloodwork is absurd, obviously having less e2 makes less estrogen signal in the plate
aromatase inhibitors work but not ideally

 

[bIackpill]

test is good lil bro

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

i used PED's during puberty but it was only sarms and prohormones until 19. i grew another inch at 19 while on test /tren


just do test+eq or masteron bc they dont convert to e2 and actually act like a SERM @ the receptor level

 

[ascender_]

Saw some clip on tt, I need the forum experts, not 15 year old kids to comment here.

The vid was saying that exogenous test is highly aromatizable, converts to estradiol closing plate growth, independent of ur bloodwork, even if u use an AI. A 2009 study showed that aromatize is expressed directly in osteoblasts. (PMID: 19257817).

The solution would be non-aromatizing androgenic compounds like anavar, tren, halo

What do u guys think? What is the solution to long term vertical growth?

I wouldnt be so scared of the aromatize on lower dose but why wouldnt you just use something other like deca as base, since its way more less aromatizable.

 

[iblameb]

just inhibit ERa
also saying that its independent of ur bloodwork is absurd, obviously having less e2 makes less estrogen signal in the plate
aromatase inhibitors work but not ideally

I saw sum abt estradiol closes growth plates bypassing the e2 level, accelerating plate closure

 

[iblameb]

i used PED's during puberty but it was only sarms and prohormones until 19. i grew another inch at 19 while on test /tren


just do test+eq or masteron bc they dont convert to e2 and actually act like a SERM @ the receptor level

Yooo, OG commented here, lol post more on tt brotha.

Secondly, thanks. Interesting still growing at 19. Imma look into eq

 

[bIackpill]

I saw sum abt estradiol closes growth plates bypassing the e2 level, accelerating plate closure

idk who told you that but less estradiol = less signal in the receptor
so i guess they meant that having low e2 still closes the growth plate beacuse it does but slower than average e2

basically the e2 level on bloodwork matters if its low then your growth plates will be open for longer and if its high then its gonna be closed earlier

 

[iblameb]

I wouldnt be so scared of the aromatize on lower dose but why wouldnt you just use something other like deca as base, since its way more less aromatizable.

Never thought about deca as a base, might look into.

 

[MrPinToWin]

Best way to control e2 on test

: Pin frequently (split weekly dose into 3-7 pins a week)
: Don't be high bf
: Stack test with Primo or EQ
: Lower test does = less aromatization
: Higher insulin = more aromatization

You can also run TRT doses and stack with masteron for main anabolic

 

[iblameb]

idk who told you that but less estradiol = less signal in the receptor
so i guess they meant that having low e2 still closes the growth plate beacuse it does but slower than average e2

basically the e2 level on bloodwork matters if its low then your growth plates will be open for longer and if its high then its gonna be closed earlier

here's the vid.

 

[iblameb]

Best way to control e2 on test

: Pin frequently (split weekly dose into 3-7 pins a week)
: Don't be high bf
: Stack test with Primo or EQ
: Lower test does = less aromatization
: Higher insulin = more aromatization

You can also run TRT doses and stack with masteron for main anabolic

I was firstly thinking about running a 9 month test cycle paired with hgh and then switch from hgh to other compounds. Mast should do it actually

 

[MrPinToWin]

I was firstly thinking about running a 9 month test cycle paired with hgh and then switch from hgh to other compounds. Mast should do it actually

Masteron is good because it'll make you giga dimorphic, but you might run into androgenic sides (balding).

Mast is not as reliable at lowering E2 as primobolan is.

HGH is a good compound, and I wouldn't take it out of the cycle.

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

since its way more less aromatizable.

aromatizable? nigga what?

19-nors dont convert to e2

 

[ascender_]

aromatizable? nigga what?

19-nors dont convert to e2

Deca-Durabolin has low estrogenic properties, with just a 20% aromatization rate of testosterone.

 

[ascender_]

Masteron is good because it'll make you giga dimorphic, but you might run into androgenic sides (balding).

Mast is not as reliable at lowering E2 as primobolan is.

HGH is a good compound, and I wouldn't take it out of the cycle.

At that point just use Proviron as dht derivate way stronger for masculinezation

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

Deca-Durabolin has low estrogenic properties, with just a 20% aromatization rate of testosterone.

holy cow.... you're right


i never even knew this JFL. attributed a lot of the e2-esque effects to progesterone

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

At that point just use Proviron as dht derivate way stronger for masculinezation

prob better off with injectable dht derivatives like masteron as they can be ran for longer & not liver toxic

 

[iblameb]

Masteron is good because it'll make you giga dimorphic, but you might run into androgenic sides (balding).

I heard mast is good for cutting but idk if I'll want to cut first. Can i take it while maingaining or bulking?

HGH is a good compound, and I wouldn't take it out of the cycle.

I gotta cycle off a bit after 6 weeks. Don't want diabetes

 

[MrPinToWin]

I heard mast is good for cutting but idk if I'll want to cut first. Can i take it while maingaining or bulking?


I gotta cycle off a bit after 6 weeks. Don't want diabetes

You won't get diabetes as long as you're monitoring your blood glucose, keeping IUs to a moderate dose and pinning before you go to sleep three hours after you last ate. Okay.

 

[iblameb]

You won't get diabetes as long as you're monitoring your blood glucose, keeping IUs to a moderate dose and pinning before you go to sleep three hours after you last ate. Okay.

Thanks