Is the blackpill more popular than the redpill?

[CorinthianLOX]

I see more and more shortform blackpill content on tiktok, insta, youtube etc as opposed to short form redpill content

 

[Abdullahm06]

no

 

[Abdullahm06]

I see more and more shortform blackpill content on tiktok, insta, youtube etc as opposed to short form redpill content

social media recommends you what you like to consume

 

[CorinthianLOX]

no

You really think so? It might just be my fyp tbh.

 

[Swarthy Knight]

I see more and more shortform blackpill content on tiktok, insta, youtube etc as opposed to short form redpill content

Almost as if the algorithm shows you what you generally wanna see

 

[Alienfromserpo1]

No. Anyone who discovered BP are deniers or they accept it

I see more and more shortform blackpill content on tiktok, insta, youtube etc as opposed to short form redpill content

 

[CorinthianLOX]

Almost as if the algorithm shows you what you generally wanna see

Are there any prominent redpill content creators anymore tbh?

 

[P. Diddy]

Not even close.

The RedPill content sell hope to guys.

As long as hope is being sold the RedPill will always be more popular than the BlackPill.

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

Not even close.

The RedPill content sell hope to guys.

As long as hope is being sold the RedPill will always be more popular than the BlackPill.

Shut up bitch

 

[LegendaryKennen]

it will eventually, its already bigger than red pill on tiktok

 

[acm]

its gotten more popular overtimr but the is still #1

 

[Swarthy Knight]

Are there any prominent redpill content creators anymore tbh?

Fresh n Fit, Hamza and all those kind of bozos. They're still more popular among normies. BP has def gained traction in recent years tho, but it's still a bit more niche

 

[P. Diddy]

Shut up bitch

You will never be 183cm u fucking midget.

 

[LegendaryKennen]

Not even close.

The RedPill content sell hope to guys.

As long as hope is being sold the RedPill will always be more popular than the BlackPill.

black pill hope is looksmaxxing, and thats whats being monetized and profited the most (courses/guides & face-ratings)

 

[got.daim]

I see more and more shortform blackpill content on tiktok, insta, youtube etc as opposed to short form redpill content

we are redpilled

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

You will never be 183cm u fucking midget.

- ugly unfunny incel who still thinks diddy is funny in 2025

 

[CorinthianLOX]

Fresh n Fit, Hamza and all those kind of bozos. They're still more popular among normies. BP has def gained traction in recent years tho, but it's still a bit more niche

I’ve seen a trend of people hopping from the redpill to the blackpill. People who used to watch hamza and freshandfit etc.

 

[P. Diddy]

black pill hope is looksmaxxing, and thats whats being monetized and profited the most (courses/guides & face-ratings)

The BlackPill wasn’t always like that. It was mostly guys telling others to give up.

The BlackPill definitely adopted the “Looksmaxxing” stuff from the RedPill.

This is how BlackPillers can monetize their content today. Hope sells.

RedPill Was always looks, money, status.

 

[LegendaryKennen]

The BlackPill wasn’t always like that. It was mostly guys telling others to give up.

The BlackPill definitely adopted the “Looksmaxxing” stuff from the RedPill.

This is how BlackPillers can monetize their content today. Hope sells.

RedPill Was always looks, money, status.

well yea but we're talking present day, i mean even blackpill was just called redpill at some point it wasnt its own pill (like 7-8 years ago)

 

[nobodylovesme]

Redpill is more popular overall because it offers a sense of control. Blackpill hits harder in short form because it’s blunt, visual, and emotionally jarring, perfect for tiktok's algorithm. But redpill still dominates when it comes to mainstream reach and monetization. Most people will not accept the blackpill even if you try to push it down their throats. It goes against human nature

 

[P. Diddy]

well yea but we're talking present day, i mean even blackpill was just called redpill at some point it wasnt its own pill (like 7-8 years ago)

True. Even redpill in its early days was basically accepting reality for what it is. Which is kinda like what BlackPill is today. Lol

 

[CorinthianLOX]

The BlackPill wasn’t always like that. It was mostly guys telling others to give up.

The BlackPill definitely adopted the “Looksmaxxing” stuff from the RedPill.

This is how BlackPillers can monetize their content today. Hope sells.

RedPill Was always looks, money, status.

Looksmaxxing comes from the blackpill though. Earlier forums like lookism and puahate did looksmaxxing and came up with the term. It was after when content creators like hamza adopted the term looksmaxxing when it started to become popular. With looksmaxxing the whole mog meme started to rise in popularity thus paving way for blackpill to rise in popularity.

Tldr: looksmaxxing was blackpill, then the redpill owned it, then it became blackpill again.

 

[got.daim]

I see more and more shortform blackpill content on tiktok, insta, youtube etc as opposed to short form redpill content

there's 2 types of redpillers
1. RSD/rollo tomassi/ reddit theredpill copers talking about 'spinning plates'
2. lookists

which brought confusion to the terms, (which caused the misuse of the term blackpill, because a user i forgot his name, spammed the forum with his doomer ideology, so it's been confused ever since) blackpill was only a doomer ideology
its funny how the Gen Z teens are talking about the same shit just much much more watered down, same misconceptions and copes, same retarded arguments, on puahate, slthate and even lookism at least there was enough oldcels(anakind, mr yoda etc) spreading their life experience, ppl posting studies etc but everything has already been said by 2016
nothing new has been added

all of you guys in this thread are misinformed

no

Almost as if the algorithm shows you what you generally wanna see

You will never be 183cm u fucking midget.

well yea but we're talking present day, i mean even blackpill was just called redpill at some point it wasnt its own pill (like 7-8 years ago)

its gotten more popular overtimr but the is still #1

Redpill is more popular overall because it offers a sense of control. Blackpill hits harder in short form because it’s blunt, visual, and emotionally jarring, perfect for tiktok's algorithm. But redpill still dominates when it comes to mainstream reach and monetization. Most people will not accept the blackpill even if you try to push it down their throats. It goes against human nature

- ugly unfunny incel who still thinks diddy is funny in 2025

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

The BlackPill wasn’t always like that. It was mostly guys telling others to give up.

The BlackPill definitely adopted the “Looksmaxxing” stuff from the RedPill.

This is how BlackPillers can monetize their content today. Hope sells.

RedPill Was always looks, money, status.

 

[got.daim]

there's 2 types of redpillers
1. RSD/rollo tomassi/ reddit theredpill copers talking about 'spinning plates'
2. lookists

which brought confusion to the terms, (which caused the misuse of the term blackpill, because a user i forgot his name, spammed the forum with his doomer ideology, so it's been confused ever since) blackpill was only a doomer ideology
its funny how the Gen Z teens are talking about the same shit just much much more watered down, same misconceptions and copes, same retarded arguments, on puahate, slthate and even lookism at least there was enough oldcels(anakind, mr yoda etc) spreading their life experience, ppl posting studies etc but everything has already been said by 2016
nothing new has been added

all of you guys in this thread are misinformed

@Gengar did i cook?

 

[Abdullahm06]

there's 2 types of redpillers
1. RSD/rollo tomassi/ reddit theredpill copers talking about 'spinning plates'
2. lookists

which brought confusion to the terms, (which caused the misuse of the term blackpill, because a user i forgot his name, spammed the forum with his doomer ideology, so it's been confused ever since) blackpill was only a doomer ideology
its funny how the Gen Z teens are talking about the same shit just much much more watered down, same misconceptions and copes, same retarded arguments, on puahate, slthate and even lookism at least there was enough oldcels(anakind, mr yoda etc) spreading their life experience, ppl posting studies etc but everything has already been said by 2016
nothing new has been added

all of you guys in this thread are misinformed

k

 

[P. Diddy]

Looksmaxxing comes from the blackpill though. Earlier forums like lookism and puahate did looksmaxxing and came up with the term. It was after when content creators like hamza adopted the term looksmaxxing when it started to become popular. With looksmaxxing the whole mog meme started to rise in popularity thus paving way for blackpill to rise in popularity.

Tldr: looksmaxxing was blackpill, then the redpill owned it, then it became blackpill again.

Mogging came from the PUA days. I think it was called Amog if I’m not mistaken.

The only reason why BlackPill was born was because some guys realized that they were too subhuman to self improve, that’s when they started the whole PUAhate forums. They came originally from RedPill pua type forums.

When I say Looksmaxxing came from RedPill, I’m talking about basic shit like grooming, gymaxxing and ect… looks was always a big topic in the RP space. We just didn’t discuss surgery’s as much.

 

[CorinthianLOX]

Mogging came from the PUA days. I think it was called Amog if I’m not mistaken.

The only reason why BlackPill was born was because some guys realized that they were too subhuman to self improve, that’s when they started the whole PUAhate forums. They came originally from RedPill pua type forums.

When I say Looksmaxxing came from RedPill, I’m talking about basic shit like grooming, gymaxxing and ect… looks was always a big topic in the RP space. We just didn’t discuss surgery’s as much.

Yeah. The whole looksmaxxing term is an umbrella term for all types of methods to improve one’s looks like surgery for example. The redpill version of looksmaxxing which for example hamza advocates for is very watered down and safe for people to consume.

 

[Swarthy Knight]

there's 2 types of redpillers
1. RSD/rollo tomassi/ reddit theredpill copers talking about 'spinning plates'
2. lookists

which brought confusion to the terms, (which caused the misuse of the term blackpill, because a user i forgot his name, spammed the forum with his doomer ideology, so it's been confused ever since) blackpill was only a doomer ideology
its funny how the Gen Z teens are talking about the same shit just much much more watered down, same misconceptions and copes, same retarded arguments, on puahate, slthate and even lookism at least there was enough oldcels(anakind, mr yoda etc) spreading their life experience, ppl posting studies etc but everything has already been said by 2016
nothing new has been added

all of you guys in this thread are misinformed

Semantics

 

[got.daim]

The only reason why BlackPill was born was because some guys realized that they were too subhuman to self improve, that’s when they started the whole PUAhate forums. They came originally from RedPill pua type forums.

no..? it came from neet forums, and started out as either being dalepilled or doomerpilled, stop spreading misinformation if you weren't there

The redpill version of looksmaxxing

think of the redpill as a philosophy of improving oneself, that can be looks, smarts, anything really, looksmaxxing is basically a subset of redpill

 

[nobodylovesme]

there's 2 types of redpillers
1. RSD/rollo tomassi/ reddit theredpill copers talking about 'spinning plates'
2. lookists

which brought confusion to the terms, (which caused the misuse of the term blackpill, because a user i forgot his name, spammed the forum with his doomer ideology, so it's been confused ever since) blackpill was only a doomer ideology
its funny how the Gen Z teens are talking about the same shit just much much more watered down, same misconceptions and copes, same retarded arguments, on puahate, slthate and even lookism at least there was enough oldcels(anakind, mr yoda etc) spreading their life experience, ppl posting studies etc but everything has already been said by 2016
nothing new has been added

all of you guys in this thread are misinformed

Really low IQ comment

 

[got.daim]

Redpill itself is massive, it's a philosophy that's giant, it spans onto politics, manosphere, religion, etc

 

[got.daim]

Really low IQ comment

how? it's factual lmao?

 

[P. Diddy]

no..? it came from neet forums, and started out as either being dalepilled or doomerpilled, stop spreading misinformation if you weren't there

think of the redpill as a philosophy of improving oneself, that can be looks, smarts, anything really, looksmaxxing is basically a subset of redpill

I was there u idiot. Neet forums and incel type forums only started after these guys were in the RedPill/PUA space.

A lot of them realized they were too ugly and gave up on RP PUA stuff.

They even used to be called True Forced Loneliness. That’s the term incels used to describe themselves.

 

[nobodylovesme]

how? it's factual lmao?

Because you're rewriting history. Blackpill didn't "start" as doomerism, it emerged from lookism boards where users analyzed dating outcomes based on facial structure, not just "giving up". Doomerism is a reaction, not the origin.

 

[got.daim]

Because you're rewriting history. Blackpill didn't "start" as doomerism, it emerged from lookism boards where users analyzed dating outcomes based on facial structure, not just "giving up". Doomerism is a reaction, not the origin.

no it isn't, stop spreading misinformation, it started on neet forums not lookist forums, and it was originally dalepilled before finding its way into the manosphere where it was remade into blackpill

 

[got.daim]

I was there u idiot. Neet forums and incel type forums only started after these guys were in the RedPill space.

there's been incel forums since later 90s and early 2000s...? LS is a perfect example

ur talking about manosphere stuff, and it didn't start there, it started in degenerate type of forums and came to the manosphere later on

 

[nobodylovesme]

no it isn't, stop spreading misinformation, it started on neet forums not lookist forums, and it was originally dalepilled before finding its way into the manosphere where it was remade into blackpill

What do you think the blackpill even is? Isn’t it fundamentally a theory of lookism? The doomer stuff was just one emotional reaction to it, not the core idea.

 

[got.daim]

What do you think the blackpill even is? Isn’t it fundamentally a theory of lookism? The doomer stuff was just one emotional reaction to it, not the core idea.

the idea of the blackpill is that it's fully genetics, no amount of wealth improvement or anything will save you (looksmax = cope) goto most neet spaces and they're blackpilled, like .net is a good example, here we are redpilled because we self improve instead of just LDAR'ng

 

[nobodylovesme]

the idea of the blackpill is that it's fully genetics, no amount of wealth improvement or anything will save you (looksmax = cope) goto most neet spaces and they're blackpilled, like .net is a good example, here we are redpilled because we self improve instead of just LDAR'ng

What you're describing is just a fatalistic outlook based on lookism, not the blackpill itself. The blackpill is a theory about how much looks matter in dating, not that they’re completely fixed or that improvement is impossible. In fact, looksmaxxing is a direct application of the blackpill: improving your looks improves your chances, because looks are the most important factor.

 

[got.daim]

What you're describing is just a fatalistic outlook based on lookism, not the blackpill itself. The blackpill is a theory about how much looks matter in dating, not that they’re completely fixed or that improvement is impossible. In fact, looksmaxxing is a direct application of the blackpill: improving your looks improves your chances, because looks are the most important factor.

you're describing the redpill, blackpill gets confused with redpill because on lookism this nigger spammed his blackpill ideology everywhere, it was either lookism or later slthate, i forgot

 

[nobodylovesme]

you're describing the redpill, blackpill gets confused with redpill because on lookism this nigger spammed his blackpill ideology everywhere, it was either lookism or later slthate, i forgot

You still don’t get it. Blackpill != doomerism. It’s not some depressive ideology, it’s a theory that looks are the most important factor in dating. That’s it. Whether you cope, LDAR, or looksmax is personal choice, the theory stays the same.

 

[got.daim]

You still don’t get it. Blackpill != doomerism. It’s not some depressive ideology, it’s a theory that looks are the most important factor in dating. That’s it. Whether you cope, LDAR, or looksmax is personal choice, the theory stays the same.

it's not a theory it's an ideology you live by

 

[nobodylovesme]

it's not a theory it's an ideology you live by

It’s not an ideology, it’s a theory describing how much looks influence dating outcomes and behavior. That’s the current consensus. Just because some fatalist screamed about it years ago doesn’t define what it is today. Origins don’t lock in meaning. Ideas evolve.

 

[got.daim]

It’s not an ideology, it’s a theory describing how much looks influence dating outcomes and behavior. That’s the current consensus. Just because some fatalist screamed about it years ago doesn’t define what it is today. Origins don’t lock in meaning. Ideas evolve.

dnrd, i'm still going to hold onto the old meanings because redpill just sounds better and it makes more sense imo, legit everyone here (or most) are politically redpill religiously redpill etc

 

[nobodylovesme]

dnrd, i'm still going to hold onto the old meanings because redpill just sounds better and it makes more sense imo, legit everyone here (or most) are politically redpill religiously redpill etc

That’s fine, but personal preference doesn’t change definitions. You can call it what you want, but the blackpill as a theory is about lookism’s dominance in dating.