Is the Redpill more stupid than the Bluepill?

[AlexAP]

Both the Redpill and the Bluepill say that Looks don't matter. But the Redpill says "Every man can get any woman if he has Game."

This is more stupid than the Bluepill imo. Bluepillers basically say "Be NT and you can get a girlfriend". While being good-looking is always better, the NTpill is still true. Most NT people end up in LTR, even if they don't have the Looks.

But the Redpill looks like Gigacope. Imagine this guy has no idea about "Game".

While this guy knows everything about shit-tests and is holding frame even when he's asleep.

Who has a better chance to breed with a Stacy? The Redpill says it's the second guy.

The Redpill basically encourages Dark Triad personality. But do Dark Triad men really appeal to most women? It seems like only a small niche of women really like this type of men, while the majority wants Looks and NT (Looks being more important for ONS and NT more important for LTR). Of course women don't like Beta men who cry all the time, but being nice, independent and non-autistic really is all what is needed in terms of personality. The Redpill only helps you in slaying low-class women.

I think the Blackpill is exaggerated too, but I would say: Blackpill>Bluepill>Redpill.

 

[Deleted member 11675]

No, redpill is the most accurate.
is a joke
is the worst, it will destroy your life.
is where it is

 

[AlexAP]

is a joke
is the worst, it will destroy your life.
is where it is

Elab?

 

[Deleted member 12002]

Both the Redpill and the Bluepill say that Looks don't matter. But the Redpill says "Every man can get any woman if he has Game."

This is more stupid than the Bluepill imo. Bluepillers basically say "Be NT and you can get a girlfriend". While being good-looking is always better, the NTpill is still true. Most NT people end up in LTR, even if they don't have the Looks.

But the Redpill looks like Gigacope. Imagine this guy has no idea about "Game".
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While this guy knows everything about shit-tests and is holding frame even when he's asleep.
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Who has a better chance to breed with a Stacy? The Redpill says it's the second guy.

The Redpill basically encourages Dark Triad personality. But do Dark Triad men really appeal to most women? It seems like only a small niche of women really like this type of men, while the majority wants Looks and NT (Looks being more important for ONS and NT more important for LTR). Of course women don't like Beta men who cry all the time, but being nice, independent and non-autistic really is all what is needed in terms of personality. The Redpill only helps you in slaying low-class women.

I think the Blackpill is exaggerated too, but I would say: Blackpill>Bluepill>Redpill.

Redpill to me simply means being the one who's in control of any relationship you might have with women. It's understanding that men and women are not equal, and that you must be the one to lead. What separates redpill from bluepill is that bluepillers believe romantic relationships between men and women should be "partnerships" based on equality.

 

[Deleted member 756]

Both the Redpill and the Bluepill say that Looks don't matter. But the Redpill says "Every man can get any woman if he has Game."

This is more stupid than the Bluepill imo. Bluepillers basically say "Be NT and you can get a girlfriend". While being good-looking is always better, the NTpill is still true. Most NT people end up in LTR, even if they don't have the Looks.

But the Redpill looks like Gigacope. Imagine this guy has no idea about "Game".
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While this guy knows everything about shit-tests and is holding frame even when he's asleep.
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Who has a better chance to breed with a Stacy? The Redpill says it's the second guy.

The Redpill basically encourages Dark Triad personality. But do Dark Triad men really appeal to most women? It seems like only a small niche of women really like this type of men, while the majority wants Looks and NT (Looks being more important for ONS and NT more important for LTR). Of course women don't like Beta men who cry all the time, but being nice, independent and non-autistic really is all what is needed in terms of personality. The Redpill only helps you in slaying low-class women.

I think the Blackpill is exaggerated too, but I would say: Blackpill>Bluepill>Redpill.

Young Steve Buscemi mogs most here

 

[turkproducer]

Young Steve Buscemi mogs most here
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this bug eyed subhuman should immediately
kill himself

 

[AlexAP]

Redpill to me simply means being the one who's in control of any relationship you might have with women. It's understanding that men and women are not equal, and that you must be the one to lead.

Well, that applies only to a small niche of women. For submissive women who like to be stay-at-home-moms, or for low-class girls who like thugmaxxed guys.

The average women, at least in the West, doesn't like a relationship in which the man "leads" in an old-fashioned way.

 

[.👽.]

Redpill is legit after the lookstreshold. i experienced it on my own

f.e. you cant be beta or high inhib with girls.

 

[Deleted member 12234]

Nope because redpillers incorporate some blackpill into their ideologies. I think alot of PUA ideology gets confused with redpill. Redpill = getting to a point where women come to you. PUA = you going to women. Blue pill = personality matters most, treat women with respect like queens . Redpillers speak alot on working on yourself physically, mentally, and financially. That's why I kinda respect them because they atleast understand that looks can play a role in attraction (touching a bit on looksmaxxing, like going to the gym or dressing better).

 

[AlexAP]

f.e. you cant be beta or high inhib with girls.

Yes, but this is Bluepill. Of course you have to be able to talk and escalate with women, this is what being NT means.

 

[Deleted member 2214]

Young Steve Buscemi mogs most here
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Most Indians orbitals like him, meanwhile on him they look super out of place cause he's pale white.

But I unironically agree. Prime Steve wasn't ugly.

 

[.👽.]

Yes, but this is Bluepill. Of course you have to be able to talk and escalate with women, this is what being NT means.

isnt it redpill? like behave in a certain way around women? escalate, dont be a simp, show that u have other girls etc? idc what pill tbh, its legit and looks are not everything for non Chads

 

[MarstonAlloy]

Young Steve Buscemi mogs most here
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Most Indians orbitals like him, meanwhile on him they look super out of place cause he's pale white.

But I unironically agree. Prime Steve wasn't ugly.

He made a career out of looking strange
Lifefuel for gigasubhumans

 

[Deleted member 12002]

Well, that applies only to a small niche of women. For submissive women who like to be stay-at-home-moms, or for low-class girls who like thugmaxxed guys.

The average women, at least in the West, doesn't like a relationship in which the man "leads" in an old-fashioned way.

But as a man you must cut most women out of the equasion. I've always told young men that if they ever want to be happy in a relationship the first thing they gotta do is eliminate 80-90% of the entire dating pool. Not leading in the traditional way just goes against our biological nature. You can trick yourself for a while that you're actually happy in that situation, but in the end something's gotta break. If not you'll just end up a whittled down shell of your former self.

Furthermore, if all men would stop being cucks and accepting women who don't want to be submissive then most women would change their priorities. It wouldn't matter what they (women) wanted. Women aren't the gatekeepers of sex. That's a myth. Women are only the "gatekeepers" when a society allows them to be. What do you think would happen, even in Western society as it stands today, if women universally stopped putting out. I'll tell you. Men would just simply start raping them, and it would cease to be a crime.

The ball's not in women's court. They can only make demands when weak men allow them to.

 

[DoctorPMA]

all have some truths here and there but alot of extreme bullshit and idiots. I read redpillers in reddit a while back for instance. the ASKTRP. Its kinda cringe. A lot of these guys act like they are ultra chad "spinnin plates" and shit. I feel like too many of them just make shit up on how successful they are.

 

[AlexAP]

But as a man you must cut most women out of the equasion. I've always told young men that if they ever want to be happy in a relationship the first thing they gotta do is eliminate 80-90% of the entire dating pool.

Well, that's mathematically impossible. Young men in the West have to take what is there.

What do you think would happen, even in Western society as it stands today, if women universally stopped putting out. I'll tell you. Men would just simply start raping them, and it would cease to be a crime.

No, all men would become Incels and rapists would still go to jail.

Japan already has a sex recession, and the men don't rape, they just cope.

The ball's not in women's court. They can only make demands when weak men allow them to.

If physical strength is all men have in advantage, then this means they have nothing. Rape and murder are illegal, and relationships who are based on force are not real relationships anyways.

Men need to have something more than physical strength, something that makes them actually desirable for women. The obvious solution is Looks and NT.

 

[Deleted member 12002]

Well, that's mathematically impossible. Young men in the West have to take what is there.

No, all men would become Incels and rapists would still go to jail.

Japan already has a sex recession, and the men don't rape, they just cope.

If physical strength is all men have in advantage, then this means they have nothing. Rape and murder are illegal, and relationships who are based on force are not real relationships anyways.

Men need to have something more than physical strength, something that makes them actually desirable for women. The obvious solution is Looks and NT.

Women still put out in Japan. And men have much more than physical strength. We're superior to women in just about every way.

 

[AlexAP]

Women still put out in Japan. And men have much more than physical strength. We're superior to women in just about every way.

The thing is, instead of "putting it out", they could actually be attracted to the men. If they put it out because the men basically demand it from them, that's not real attraction.

I know that men are better in most things, but these things don't matter for relationships. A man can be very smart, earning six-figure with his programmer job, he could be funnier, more ambitious, etc., and he could still be Incel if he doesn't have Looks or NT.

 

[Doober]

To me the redpill is just the confirmation of what we knew to be true when we were young. The blackpill is the acceptance of these facts. They are both the same

 

[EasternRightWinger15]

redpill should make you to work hard on yourself and create some value, blackpill also can, but judging from the big portion of this forum (me in the few first month after joining this site included) it can make you feel very depressed and actually it can be detrimental in terms of self-improvement (eg. bitching on this forum non-stop about your jaw being few mms off instead of doing something with that, resulting in mindless wasting of time)

unfortunately many people preaching the redpill on YT are full of shit and full-on scammers that didn't achieve anything, thus making redpill as an ideology look like a complete joke

 

[Deleted member 10913]

Biological determinism, also known as genetic determinism,[1] is the belief that human behaviour is directly controlled by an individual's genes or some component of their physiology, generally at the expense of the role of the environment, whether in embryonic development or in learning.[2] Genetic reductionism is a similar concept, but it is distinct from genetic determinism in that the former refers to the level of understanding, while the latter refers to the supposedly causal role of genes.

 

[Deleted member 12344]

Both the Redpill and the Bluepill say that Looks don't matter. But the Redpill says "Every man can get any woman if he has Game."

This is more stupid than the Bluepill imo. Bluepillers basically say "Be NT and you can get a girlfriend". While being good-looking is always better, the NTpill is still true. Most NT people end up in LTR, even if they don't have the Looks.

But the Redpill looks like Gigacope. Imagine this guy has no idea about "Game".
View attachment 1139757

While this guy knows everything about shit-tests and is holding frame even when he's asleep.
View attachment 1139754

Who has a better chance to breed with a Stacy? The Redpill says it's the second guy.

The Redpill basically encourages Dark Triad personality. But do Dark Triad men really appeal to most women? It seems like only a small niche of women really like this type of men, while the majority wants Looks and NT (Looks being more important for ONS and NT more important for LTR). Of course women don't like Beta men who cry all the time, but being nice, independent and non-autistic really is all what is needed in terms of personality. The Redpill only helps you in slaying low-class women.

I think the Blackpill is exaggerated too, but I would say: Blackpill>Bluepill>Redpill.

Redpill isnt all about game jfl

 

[thecel]

you must be the one to lead.

No.

romantic relationships between men and women should be "partnerships" based on equality.

Yes.

 

[Deleted member 2684]

Both the Redpill and the Bluepill say that Looks don't matter. But the Redpill says "Every man can get any woman if he has Game."

This is more stupid than the Bluepill imo. Bluepillers basically say "Be NT and you can get a girlfriend". While being good-looking is always better, the NTpill is still true. Most NT people end up in LTR, even if they don't have the Looks.

But the Redpill looks like Gigacope. Imagine this guy has no idea about "Game".
View attachment 1139757

While this guy knows everything about shit-tests and is holding frame even when he's asleep.
View attachment 1139754

Who has a better chance to breed with a Stacy? The Redpill says it's the second guy.

The Redpill basically encourages Dark Triad personality. But do Dark Triad men really appeal to most women? It seems like only a small niche of women really like this type of men, while the majority wants Looks and NT (Looks being more important for ONS and NT more important for LTR). Of course women don't like Beta men who cry all the time, but being nice, independent and non-autistic really is all what is needed in terms of personality. The Redpill only helps you in slaying low-class women.

I think the Blackpill is exaggerated too, but I would say: Blackpill>Bluepill>Redpill.

I actually regret going from blue to blackpill and skipping red, I feel I have the frame and decent enough face that eventually if I could speak I could get a gf

 

[Deleted member 12002]

No.





Yes.

What? Men should always lead. There can be no equality.

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

the truth is the blackpill with some red sauce on it

 

[thecel]

What? Men should always lead. There can be no equality.

What if (<— it says “what if” it doesn’t mean I want it) a man wants the woman to lead in his relationship? inb4 low T

 

[AlexAP]

What if (<— it says “what if” it doesn’t mean I want it) a man wants the woman to lead in his relationship? inb4 low T

Well, women don't want this. They want either an equal relationship (like most women in the West) or the man to lead.

 

[thecel]

Well, women don't want this. They want either an equal relationship (like most women in the West) or the man to lead.

What? Men should always lead. There can be no equality.

@Jamesothy Why can’t relationships be equal?

 

[Be_ConfidentBro]

No, redpill is the most accurate.
is a joke
is the worst, it will destroy your life.
is where it is

name checks out

 

[Deleted member 12002]

What if (<— it says “what if” it doesn’t mean I want it) a man wants the woman to lead in his relationship? inb4 low T

It could mean one of three things.

1. He's a fetishist. Some men get off on this kind of relationship dynamic, where the woman leads in all areas and not just the bedroom. It's a form of masochism. There's even online communities for men, kind of similar to this one, that revolve around that kind of lifestyle. They call it FLR (Female led relationships).

2. He's brainwashed either by society, the family he grew up in, or both. It's not natural for domestic relationsips between men and women to be led by the female. A big difference between this type of dude and the fetishist is that the fetishist knows that it's unnatural, and that's precisely what gets him off.

3. He's simply a pussy. Mostly in the sense that he's afraid of, or doesn't know how to take on the responsibilities of being the leader/primary decision maker of his household. This type of dude can often be a mix of the second type of dude. The brainwashed one. A lot of times though he's just scared to take charge, even if knows it's unnatural for women to lead.

 

[thecel]

name checks out

Explain

 

[Be_ConfidentBro]

Explain

Rothschild​

 

[Deleted member 2275]

I personally took the 'everything matters' pill

 

[thecel]

It could mean one of three things.

1. He's a fetishist. Some men get off on this kind of relationship dynamic, where the woman leads in all areas and not just the bedroom. It's a form of masochism. There's even online communities for men, kind of similar to this one, that revolve around that kind of lifestyle. They call it FLR (Female led relationships).

2. He's brainwashed either by society, the family he grew up in, or both. It's not natural for domestic relationsips between men and women to be led by the female. A big difference between this type of dude and the fetishist is that the fetishist knows that it's unnatural, and that's precisely what gets him off.

3. He's simply a pussy. Mostly in the sense that he's afraid of, or doesn't know how to take on the responsibilities of being the leader/primary decision maker of his household. This type of dude can often be a mix of the second type of dude. The brainwashed one. A lot of times though he's just scared to take charge, even if knows it's unnatural for women to lead.

What if the dude is just a hedonist who wants his life to require as little effort as possible?

 

[thecel]

Rothschild​

What’s his connection to redpill coping?

 

[Be_ConfidentBro]

What’s his connection to redpill coping?

Rothschild​

 

[Gonthar]

 

[Deleted member 12002]

@Jamesothy Why can’t relationships be equal?

Because in every "equal" relationship, it's always the woman who really wears the pants.

"Once made equal to man, woman becomes his superior." ~ Socrates

 

[Gazzamogga]

TheRedPill is a bunch of shit that's obvious (like lift, don't act like a pussy, don't be an emotional tampon, don't put pussy on a pedestal etcetc) combined with giga copes and endless larp stories.

Those guys act like only redpilled men lift and act like men jfl

Waiting for the day some balding subhuman 5'6" manlet desperately tries holding frame after getting rejected so I can laugh in his face

 

[Baldingman1998]

Reality is blackpill. But the only difference is that social dynamics, and how you make other people feel with words actually matters in making friends and getting women.

 

[Be_ConfidentBro]

he forgot to do nopoo

 

[volcelfatcel]

he forgot to do nopoo

he's med wdym

 

[Be_ConfidentBro]

he's med wdym

Indeed bro that's why if he did nopoo (no Shampoo) he would've been slaying all the bitches

 

[Deleted member 12002]

What if the dude is just a hedonist who wants his life to require as little effort as possible?

Very good point. This is pretty rare though because it requires psychopathy. In these types of relationships it would appear to an outside observer that the woman's the one who's in control, but it's actually always gonna be the man who's really pulling all the strings.

I've seen this kind of relationship before. The man's usually always much more attractive than the woman. This kind of thing can only work with women who have an extremely low self esteem. He allows her, or rather forces her, to have the burden of pulling all the weight. She can do anything she wants just so long as none of the decisions she makes ever touch his bottom line. If you observe these kind of relationships closely you'll see that the woman will never do anything interferes with the man's comfort and leisure.

 

[AlexAP]

Exactly. From all the three pills, I would rate the Bluepill before the Redpill. The Blackpill is exaggerated, but it's true because Looks matter the most for creating attraction.

 

[AlexAP]

Reality is blackpill. But the only difference is that social dynamics, and how you make other people feel with words actually matters in making friends and getting women.

Well that would mean reality is not only blackpill. It is a mix between blackpill and bluepill.

 

[AlexAP]

Very good point. This is pretty rare though because it requires psychopathy. In these types of relationships it would appear to an outside observer that the woman's the one who's in control, but it's actually always gonna be the man who's really pulling all the strings.

I've seen this kind of relationship before. The man's usually always much more attractive than the woman. This kind of thing can only work with women who have an extremely low self esteem. He allows her, or rather forces her, to have the burden of pulling all the weight. She can do anything she wants just so long as none of the decisions she makes ever touch his bottom line. If you observe these kind of relationships closely you'll see that the woman will never do anything interferes with the man's comfort and leisure.

Some women do have a fetish for such relationships, too. It's not only women with low self esteem.

But they're extremely rare, even the most radical feminists want at least an equal relationship and not "wear the pants."

 

[Gonthar]

Exactly. From all the three pills, I would rate the Bluepill before the Redpill. The Blackpill is exaggerated, but it's true because Looks matter the most for creating attraction.

It's over for him, it doesn't matter if he respects women and listens to them(bluepill) or if he trains in the gym, acts alpha and keeps frame(redpill), the blackpill is the foundation - if you don't have the looks, nothing else matters!

 

[Deleted member 12002]

Some women do have a fetish for such relationships, too. It's not only women with low self esteem.

But they're extremely rare, even the most radical feminists want at least an equal relationship and not "wear the pants."

No, they think they want an equal relationship. What they really want is a man who leads. That's what every woman wants. No woman wants to be equal with a man deep down. You can't expect women to know what they want in truth. Their minds don't work that way.