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Since this was 6 months ago u think its closed now, im not on aiopen
How old?Since this was 6 months ago u think its closed now, im not on ai
how old are youSince this was 6 months ago u think its closed now, im not on ai
Yeah they looked like you had 6 months to a year if lucky, they’re def closed now but your spine plates might be open. Legs are probably closed too.Since this was 6 months ago u think its closed now, im not on ai
I was 17 6 months then now im 17 10 months. P delayed puberty tho.How old?
I was 17 6 months then now im 17 10 months. P delayed puberty tho.how old are you
Probably open, get it checked again and then heightmaxx asapI was 17 6 months then now im 17 10 months. P delayed puberty tho.
Been on mk for abt 8 months, ordering asin, what shouks i know for regulating side effects like memory etc. Dont wanna be stupid filling these college aps.Probably open, get it checked again and then heightmaxx asap
are u in EU? if yes we’re are you ordering this stuff?Been on mk for abt 8 months, ordering asin, what shouks i know for regulating side effects like memory etc. Dont wanna be stupid filling these college aps.
Naw usaare u in EU? if yes we’re are you ordering this stuff?
Will try, how u get the doc to check. They dont just xray on demand. I had a doc check cause finger issue.I said this 1000x and I will most likely say it 1000x again:
GET X-RAYS BEFORE HOPPING ON AI AND WHATNOT BECAUSE IF YOUR PLATES AREN'T OPEN YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO FUCK UP YOUR HAIR, JOINTS, ENDOCRINE SYSTEM AND WHATEVER FOR NOTHING !
It breaks my heart seeing another young guys in the same situation I was years ago, your wrist plates just fused and you hop on this forum copium (spine and leg growth plates). GET THEM CHECKED.
In most countries, if you pay yourself you can just go and tell them to get an x-ray done for whatever reason. For the spine I would say that I have problems with my back and for the knees I would just say that your doctor suspects femoral retroversion and they will get it done. That's how I did it.Will try, how u get the doc to check. They dont just xray on demand. I had a doc check cause finger issue.
Thanks, what was ur ai dose I was thinking of buying it for dimorphism as well as I need some more of it. I was planning on taking smth small like 6.25 or lessIn most countries, if you pay yourself you can just go and tell them to get an x-ray done for whatever reason. For the spine I would say that I have problems with my back and for the knees I would just say that your doctor suspects femoral retroversion and they will get it done. That's how I did it.
EDIT: being somewhat honest also helps, tell them you are worried about your height and are looking into getting consultations with orthopedic surgeons to increase your final height, tell them that you want to know if your plates are still open or not.
I took 6.25mg to 12.5mg per day, but it was too late. Your plates are almost completely closed, anyone telling you that hopping on GH and AI right now without knowing if your spine and leg growth plates are open is just parroting the same things they heard other people say. Research the effects of taking AIand GH, it can nuke your hair (AI) for example. Running this stack without 100% confirmation that your plates are open is not only useless --> it will most likely just hurt you.Thanks, what was ur ai dose I was thinking of buying it for dimorphism as well as I need some more of it. I was planning on taking smth small like 6.25 or less
best case and they are still open, did you get some more dimorphic features? And is early baldness in your genes. Wow did the 6.25 cause all that! How long were u taking it for in months.I took 6.25mg to 12.5mg per day, but it was too late. Your plates are almost completely closed, anyone telling you that hopping on GH and AI right now without knowing if your spine and leg growth plates are open is just parroting the same things they heard other people say. Research the effects of taking AIand GH, it can nuke your hair (AI) for example. Running this stack without 100% confirmation that your plates are open is not only useless --> it will most likely just hurt you.
Well, AI is an endocrine disrupter and the point is to put your hormones out of wack. You will most likely experience negative side effects on AI unless you are overweight and it's just normalizing your hormonal system back to normal function.I took 6.25mg to 12.5mg per day, but it was too late. Your plates are almost completely closed, anyone telling you that hopping on GH and AI right now without knowing if your spine and leg growth plates are open is just parroting the same things they heard other people say. Research the effects of taking AIand GH, it can nuke your hair (AI) for example. Running this stack without 100% confirmation that your plates are open is not only useless --> it will most likely just hurt you.
I already was very dimorphic so I can't tell. Early baldness isn't in our genes, I am not nearly as screwed as the average guy I see in my area, but the seeing the thinning in my case was brutal, because I didn't expect to lose it so fast and so hard, still losing faster than before even though I stopped months ago, wondering what could have caused this? I researched it and in many bodybuilding forums they talk about how aromasin can ruin even the best of all hairlines if you are unlucky.best case and they are still open, did you get some more dimorphic features? And is early baldness in your genes. Wow did the 6.25 cause all that! How long were u taking it for in months.
Yeah they are pretty open for 17 and half but compared to the studies that are commonly cited here not nearly as open as they should be to realize the gains most people expect by going the AI and HGH/IGF-1 route. Get the images of your knees and spines ASAP and then act accordingly that's all I can say.Well, AI is an endocrine disrupter and the point is to put your hormones out of wack. You will most likely experience negative side effects on AI unless you are overweight and it's just normalizing your hormonal system back to normal function.
His wrist growth plates are pretty open for someone who's 17.6, A lot of people have their wrist growth plates closed by 15.5+, so I wouldn't be surprised if he can possibly make gains from taking exogenous compounds, but like you said, closer examination is always needed and no point to potentially harm your body if the height you are at currently isn't horrible
yeah, my hair is still shedding like crazy too man. it’s most likely just TE. but aromasin probably permenatly wrecked my hairline and my crown, my hair like formed this thinning pattern across the sides of my head it’s really weird man.I already was very dimorphic so I can't tell. Early baldness isn't in our genes, I am not nearly as screwed as the average guy I see in my area, but the seeing the thinning in my case was brutal, because I didn't expect to lose it so fast and so hard, still losing faster than before even though I stopped months ago, wondering what could have caused this? I researched it and in many bodybuilding forums they talk about how aromasin can ruin even the best of all hairlines if you are unlucky.
Yeah they are pretty open for 17 and half but compared to the studies that are commonly cited here not nearly as open as they should be to realize the gains most people expect by going the AI and HGH/IGF-1 route. Get the images of your knees and spines ASAP and then act accordingly that's all I can say.
EDIT: most importantly --> don't fuck your health up for 1-2cm because it isnt worth to advance by half a norwood stage or more to get slightly taller. Play it safe, best case you get it monitored by a physician.
How much have u grownNaw usa
those wrist plates are actually as open as the ones in studies lol. a lot of those ISS kids had completely fused wrist plates 16.5-17+ (advanced bone age for their age, that’s practically why they hopped on that clinical stack in the first place.)I already was very dimorphic so I can't tell. Early baldness isn't in our genes, I am not nearly as screwed as the average guy I see in my area, but the seeing the thinning in my case was brutal, because I didn't expect to lose it so fast and so hard, still losing faster than before even though I stopped months ago, wondering what could have caused this? I researched it and in many bodybuilding forums they talk about how aromasin can ruin even the best of all hairlines if you are unlucky.
Yeah they are pretty open for 17 and half but compared to the studies that are commonly cited here not nearly as open as they should be to realize the gains most people expect by going the AI and HGH/IGF-1 route. Get the images of your knees and spines ASAP and then act accordingly that's all I can say.
EDIT: most importantly --> don't fuck your health up for 1-2cm because it isnt worth to advance by half a norwood stage or more to get slightly taller. Play it safe, best case you get it monitored by a physician.
They are very open in these scansThis was 6 months ago are the plates closed?
Once wrist plates close how much time until torso/leg ones close too?
Yes and no, its not a total waste at least AIs will increase testosterone which will help puberty max but it is a risk for potentially almost no gain if all plates are closed. That being said its unlikely for the spine to be fully closed in 16-18yos but always get it checked yeah.I said this 1000x and I will most likely say it 1000x again:
GET X-RAYS BEFORE HOPPING ON AI AND WHATNOT BECAUSE IF YOUR PLATES AREN'T OPEN YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO FUCK UP YOUR HAIR, JOINTS, ENDOCRINE SYSTEM AND WHATEVER FOR NOTHING !
It breaks my heart seeing another young guys in the same situation I was years ago, your wrist plates just fused and you hop on this forum copium (spine and leg growth plates). GET THEM CHECKED.
tbh low t from genes got hella soft features and ectomorph genes so thats why Im thinking low dose aiYes and no, its not a total waste at least AIs will increase testosterone which will help puberty max but it is a risk for potentially almost no gain if all plates are closed. That being said its unlikely for the spine to be fully closed in 16-18yos but always get it checked yeah.