Is there a correlation between being religious and being low IQ?

[Deleted member 9699]

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Someone said that was the case but I haven't found any studies on it

 

[Deleted member 6723]

yes

 

[Clark69]

imagine being copingvolcel and seeing yourself in dozen of user's sigs

 

[Naser Orić]

Yh, same with bluepill and low IQ/limited sentience

 

[Deleted member 9699]

yes

bro
you came on my post and didn't even rep me?
are we no longer friends?
fuck
its over

 

[Deleted member 6723]

imagine being copingvolcel and seeing yourself in dozen of user's sigs

join us bro I started it

 

[magnificentcel]

@werty1457

 

[Gosick]

high iqcels are religious in that they believe in the values embedded in religion in order to preserve society, It doesnt mean they necessarily believe in "God" though. Being Religious isn't the same as believing in God.

 

[Pillarman]

I've read that muslims are lower IQ than Christians

 

[Deleted member 4430]

 

[Deleted member 9699]

I've read that muslims are lower IQ than Christians

Can't decide which is more low IQ but I suppose Christians are more calm from my experience. Jews are giga high IQ though.

 

[Morpheus]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23921675/

“A meta-analysis of 63 studies showed a significant negative association between intelligence and religiosity.”

Unsurprising. The disparity would be even larger if not for the fact that the fear of death oftentimes overcomes rational thought/intelligence and makes normally high IQ people buy into a low IQ ideology.

 

[Deleted member 6892]

Only midwits are atheist both low iq retards and high iq geniuses are religious

 

[Deleted member 6892]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23921675/

“A meta-analysis of 63 studies showed a significant negative association between intelligence and religiosity.”

Unsurprising. The disparity would be even larger if not for the fact that the fear of death oftentimes overcomes rational thought/intelligence and makes normally high IQ people buy into a low IQ ideology.

Jewish study

 

[Deleted member 9699]

man holy shit that is one beautiful scene
i'm legit gonna start watching that show now

 

[Morpheus]

high iqcels are religious in that they believe in the values embedded in religion in order to preserve society, It doesnt mean they necessarily believe in "God" though. Being Religious isn't the same as believing in God.

Here we go again with the moronic take that you should buy into a fairytale in order to preserve morals and values in society.

Religions reflect the values of the people who created them, not the other way around. Societies don’t need religions to be moral, and I’d go as far as saying it’d lead to much better results for civilization to be moral in the absence of a bunch of conflicting religions that all create divisiveness and encourage bigotry and hatred.

 

[Deleted member 1464]

religion = psychosis

 

[Gosick]

Jewish study

Pretty much this

literally all of the geniuses throughout history were religious.

 

[Deleted member 6573]

imagine being copingvolcel and seeing yourself in dozen of user's sigs

I am putting him in my sig too. Where do I do it?

 

[Morpheus]

Only midwits are atheist both low iq retards and high iq geniuses are religious

Quite literally the opposite actually. Do you have no knowledge of the history of our society’s greatest contributors to the sciences, arts, and philosophy whatsoever? They’re overwhelmingly atheists. Because only gullible morons believe in fairytales.

 

[Deleted member 8576]

pretty sure some form of retardation is required for being religious in the current year

 

[Deleted member 9699]

Pretty much this

literally all of the geniuses throughout history were religious.

Correlation doesn't equal causation. "Throughout history" is a stupid take.

Throughout history, atheists were not celebrated. In fact, a lot of them were killed. It's only the case today where this isn't happening anymore.

The world was ruled by religion once. Have you never heard of the Christian dark ages?

Pretty sure a lot of people didn't believe in God but didn't admit it.

 

[Gosick]

Here we go again with the moronic take that you should buy into a fairytale in order to preserve morals and values in society.

Religions reflect the values of the people who created them, not the other way around. Societies don’t need religions to be moral, and I’d go as far as saying it’d lead to much better results for civilization to be moral in the absence of a bunch of conflicting religions that all create divisiveness and encourage bigotry and hatred.

jfl at this cope

Jews are arguably the most religious out of any race and they on average have been very successful and do indeed have a higher iq compared to other racial groups etc.

Obviously a a literal definition of religion isnt necessary for a civilization to prosper but something that replicates its core values is essential.

jfl if you think a society that promotes degeneracy/nihilism is going to be as efficient as a religious one (excluding Islam because Islam in general prevents the individual from pursuing rational based thinking).

 

[Deleted member 9072]

keep crying for @copingvolcel
he lives rent free in all your heads

 

[Deleted member 6892]

Quite literally the opposite actually. Do you have no knowledge of the history of our society’s greatest contributors to the sciences, arts, and philosophy whatsoever? They’re overwhelmingly atheists. Because only gullible morons believe in fairytales.

“Quite literally the opposite actually. Do you have no knowledge of the history of our society’s greatest contributors to the sciences, arts, and philosophy whatsoever? They’re overwhelmingly atheists. Because only gullible morons believe in fairytales.”

Atheism wasn’t common in scientists before Darwin and most philosophers were theist to some degree before the last 200 years so you’re wrong. Even now 51% of those in American association to advance science are religious. Stop believing reddit Jewish propaganda. Also religion was probably the biggest driving force for art so idk how you can even say that most artists were irreligious.

 

[Deleted member 9699]

jfl at this cope

Jews are arguably the most religious out of any race and they on average have been very successful and do indeed have a higher iq compared to other racial groups etc.

Obviously a a literal definition of religion isnt necessary for a civilization to prosper but something that replicates its core values is essential.

jfl if you think a society that promotes degeneracy/nihilism is going to be as efficient as a religious one (excluding Islam because Islam in general prevents the individual from pursuing rational based thinking).

So you're one of those people that think having no religion in society equates having a society without morals and total degeneracy and nihilism.

That explains everything. You're an extremist in thought and clearly don't know what you're talking about.

Learn to not think in black and white.

 

[Pillarman]

Pretty sure a lot of people didn't believe in God but didn't admit it.

Those were the smart ones, now you can freely be an atheist, non-religious person, guess what this does to the society?

would anyone really religious participate in this shit? fear of god is needed for a stable society ngl

 

[Gosick]

Correlation doesn't equal causation. "Throughout history" is a stupid take.

Throughout history, atheists were not celebrated. In fact, a lot of them were killed. It's only the case today where this isn't happening anymore.

The world was ruled by religion once. Have you never heard of the Christian dark ages?

Pretty sure a lot of people didn't believe in God but didn't admit it.

The 1960's was the peak of human accomplishments and before as well. Western Civilization due to its disarray from religion is now becoming dumber and dumber.

And the reason why the world was ruled by Christianity was because it created intelligent people.

 

[Deleted member 8576]

literally all of the geniuses throughout history were religious.

historically that would make sense due to limited understanding of science in centuries of the past. but we have better knowledge now, and the only people that remain religious in the current day are either gigacoping, retarded, or ignorant.

 

[Deleted member 9699]

And the reason why the world was ruled by Christianity was because it created intelligent people.

It was because they used violence all the fucking time jfl. You really think religion spreads by kind values? Most if not all religions were barbaric.

 

[Gosick]

So you're one of those people that think having no religion in society equates having a society without morals and total degeneracy and nihilism.

That explains everything. You're an extremist in thought and clearly don't know what you're talking about.

Learn to not think in black and white.

I literally said that religion in the most literal sense is not necessary but something that replicates its core values is necessary for a highly functioning society. You didnt read my post correctly jfl.

 

[Deleted member 6573]

This atheism vs religion debate is old as time itself and quite frankly boring as fuck now.

How about we all move along and put copingvolcel in our sigs?

 

[Deleted member 9699]

I literally said that religion in the most literal sense is not necessary but something that replicates its core values is necessary for a highly functioning society. You didnt read my post correctly jfl.

I'm not an atheist, but I don't think religion is real. I believe there could be a creator out there, but I don't think he exists in the Bible or the Torah.

 

[Deleted member 1464]

 

[Deleted member 9699]

This atheism vs religion debate is old as time itself and quite frankly boring as fuck now.

How about we all move along and put copingvolcel in our sigs?

OK but we need your take on the subject please. Would you say as a Princeton high IQ Chad that believing in religion is smart or no?

 

[Gosick]

It was because they used violence all the fucking time jfl. You really think religion spreads by kind values? Most if not all religions were barbaric.

Religion promotes ethno-centrism bro. Ethno-Centrism=higher iq people (jews).

Its simple causation nigga

 

[Deleted member 6892]

It was because they used violence all the fucking time jfl. You really think religion spreads by kind values? Most if not all religions were barbaric.

Nah that’s cope most conversions to Christianity weren’t barbaric for Europeans, they were only barbaric when it came to colonization later on

slavs and nords were converted to Christianity from paganism without nearly any violence no matter what anyone tells you

 

[Deleted member 6573]

OK but we need your take on the subject please. Would you say as a Princeton high IQ Chad that believing in religion is smart or no?

I think it's human nature to have an inherent desire to believe in something 'greater', whether as a method of coping with a shitty life or as a way of explaining things. I don't think it makes religious people stupid. This is coming from someone who has never been religious.

 

[Deleted member 6273]

Jewish study

a significant amount of jews are religious. It's both a reference of religion and ancestry though not mutually exclusive.

 

[Morpheus]

jfl at this cope

Jews are arguably the most religious out of any race and they on average have been very successful and do indeed have a higher iq compared to other racial groups etc.

Obviously a a literal definition of religion isnt necessary for a civilization to prosper but something that replicates its core values is essential.

jfl if you think a society that promotes degeneracy/nihilism is going to be as efficient as a religious one (excluding Islam because Islam in general prevents the individual from pursuing rational based thinking).

You really need to read up on history. Religion is responsible for so much destruction and devastation well beyond Islamic extremism today. And we would be much better off in a society that’s moral in the absence of religion. Once again, religions are created by mankind to reflect the morals of that specific society. Which is why you get all kinds of different religions throughout history but with mostly the same basic underlying values since humans have been embedded with and evolved to uphold certain morals. However the more dangerous beliefs varying by religion surrounding those basic morals and the conflict between different religions are what make the ideologies less preferable to an atheistic society that can come to a collective understanding of how we should behave.

Humans have been around for a couple hundred thousand years and religion most likely just as long. It’ll never die out because people don’t want to die and they want to create more meaning in their lives and happy endings after all this, but that’s not an excuse for creating fiction to trick people into acting a certain way in a civilized society. The tens of millions of atheists in the US today don’t have a problem being moral without needing a fairytale and neither should the rest of the population.

 

[Deleted member 6892]

a significant amount of jews are religious. It's both a reference of religion and ancestry though not mutually exclusive.

Jews are the worst kind of religious

 

[Deleted member 9699]

Nah that’s cope most conversions to Christianity weren’t barbaric for Europeans, they were only barbaric when it came to colonization later on

slavs and nords were converted to Christianity from paganism without nearly any violence no matter what anyone tells you

history disagrees
and neither you or i can really prove this as we haven't been there

we know pagans hated christians to death so to believe they converted to christianity without any violence is hard to believe IMHO

 

[Gosick]

You really need to read up on history. Religion is responsible for so much destruction and devastation well beyond Islamic extremism today. And we would be much better off in a society that’s moral in the absence of religion. Once again, religions are created by mankind to reflect the morals of that specific society. Which is why you get all kinds of different religions throughout history but with mostly the same basic underlying values since humans have been embedded with and evolved to uphold certain morals. However the more dangerous beliefs varying by religion surrounding those basic morals and the conflict between different religions are what make the ideologies less preferable to an atheistic society that can come to a collective understanding of how we should behave.

Humans have been around for a couple hundred thousand years and religion most likely just as long. It’ll never die out because people don’t want to die and they want to create more meaning in their lives and happy endings after all this, but that’s not an excuse for creating fiction to trick people into acting a certain way in a civilized society. The tens of millions of atheists in the US today don’t have a problem being moral without needing a fairytale and neither should the rest of the population.

Religion is responsible for creating the success that is western civilization jfl. I'm talking about Christianity in particular. The question as to if we would be better off with or without religion is debatable but obviously something that promotes its core values is necessary for a society to function properly. Fascism is an example.'

"However the more dangerous beliefs varying by religion surrounding those basic morals and the conflict between different religions are what make the ideologies less preferable to an atheistic society that can come to a collective understanding of how we should behave."

Yes, and the best one prevails. Religion promotes ethno centrism within its believers/followers. There's a reason why Christianity came out on top vs a Religion like Islam while also promoting ethno centrism prevents the individual from thinking logically.

"Humans have been around for a couple hundred thousand years and religion most likely just as long. It’ll never die out because people don’t want to die and they want to create more meaning in their lives and happy endings after all this, but that’s not an excuse for creating fiction to trick people into acting a certain way in a civilized society"

The same can be said about laws in general. laws are necessary to maintain order as is religion. You dont need to believe in God literally to be Religious as I said earlier.

"The tens of millions of atheists in the US today don’t have a problem being moral without needing a fairytale and neither should the rest of the population."

Those atheists will die off because they're to busy with their hedonistic pursuits in life than to create a well functioning family. There's a reason why progressives/liberals don't have children compared to Conservatives.

 

[Morpheus]

People really need to learn what atheism actually implies.

Atheists really aren’t asserting anything. It’s a response to religion. We just deny that there is any reasonable evidence supporting the existence of God. Because there isn’t, for the Christian God or any other gods or explanations for the world/the afterlife. And without evidence, it’s no more unlikely that people are reincarnated in the same universe after they die. Or that we enter a different dimension unidentifiable from the current one. Or that we just end up as dirt in the ground and so the idea of the metaphysical is all just our brain chemistry tricking us into thinking we’re more than just a collection of atoms.

The fact of the matter is we don’t have evidence for anything religions try to push and so it makes sense to behave based off of the information we do know, which is that this physical universe is all we have and when people die, that’s it. And that’s what atheism is. You don’t create truths with no support.

 

[Morpheus]

Religion is responsible for creating the success that is western civilization jfl. I'm talking about Christianity in particular. The question as to if we would be better off with or without religion is debatable but obviously something that promotes its core values is necessary for a society to function properly. Fascism is an example.'

"However the more dangerous beliefs varying by religion surrounding those basic morals and the conflict between different religions are what make the ideologies less preferable to an atheistic society that can come to a collective understanding of how we should behave."

Yes, and the best one prevails. Religion promotes ethno centrism within its believers/followers. There's a reason why Christianity came out on top vs a Religion like Islam while also promoting ethno centrism prevents the individual from thinking logically.

"Humans have been around for a couple hundred thousand years and religion most likely just as long. It’ll never die out because people don’t want to die and they want to create more meaning in their lives and happy endings after all this, but that’s not an excuse for creating fiction to trick people into acting a certain way in a civilized society"

The same can be said about laws in general. laws are necessary to maintain order as is religion. You dont need to believe in God literally to be Religious as I said earlier.

"The tens of millions of atheists in the US today don’t have a problem being moral without needing a fairytale and neither should the rest of the population."

Those atheists will die off because they're to busy with their hedonistic pursuits in life than to create a well functioning family. There's a reason why progressives/liberals don't have children compared to Conservatives.

If you believe our current society is the best possible outcome of what we could’ve/should’ve been then I guess that explains why you would back religion so much but I personally find that to be insane. Western civilization is so glamorized but we’re not comparing Western civilization to other modern societies (which by the way also tend to be religious and even Christian a lot of the time). We’re comparing current civilization to what it could be without religion and I personally don’t buy into the idea that just because historically religion was involved that it was best for religion to be involved.

“You don’t need to believe in God literally to be religious” is a weird statement. Yes you do. If you’re religious, you buy into the beliefs and precepts of that specific religion. If you ONLY think the values that come out of it are important than you can simply have your own set of morals and not be religious. And once again I want to reiterate that religions are constructed by mankind based off of existing morals and values. So the idea that civilization will just fall apart and descend into a hedonistic state of anarchy without believing in something with no more basis than the Tooth Fairy is stupid. Morals are here to stay regardless.

Your last statement is just a poor correlation->causation argument. I’m sure the fact that progressives skew young and the younger generations are dealing with the student debt crisis, stagnating wages, skyrocketing rent prices, social media and technology induced depression and feelings of isolation has something to do with not starting families. And even if there is a slight gap between conservatives and progressives in terms of familial values, that’s not to say it has to always be that way? In my view societal advancement is all about push and pull. Sometimes you get it just right and sometimes you go a bit too far and have to come back a little. Maybe in the short term without religion society would be less structured by family but eventually it would adjust. I don’t think the biological hardwired desire for people to procreate and raise their children in the best possible way necessitates a belief in God.

 

[RAITEIII]

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Someone said that was the case but I haven't found any studies on it

Hi gigachad. Dn rd any comments but analysing objectively, my conclusion is that there's a correlation of being low iq, having bad looks and lack of success in life.

I see that the majority of people who are fervently religious are those who found themselves unable to overcome certain barriers. They proceed to try to find comfort in religion and that everything is according to God's will, thus they don't feel as bad for being in that situation. Low iq because they believe this. Low iq because in many cases you should be able to improve any situation that you have. Low iq because you refuse to admit that there are many reasons why this is happening and have little to do with God. And that's perfectly, anyone can be in that position and we just try our best.

Secondly bad looks. You will never see a chad or stacy who will make of religion the center of their lives or even have thoughts about this. They don't need to cope. They don't need no answers. They can have love affection anything they want. Therefore they don't need to be mentally rescued by any divine entity.

And third. Taking into account that you're bluepill low iq who refuses to see reality, and second don't have looks, then it's evident that you most likely won't be having much success in life. So this makes the void even bigger which at the same time makes you even more susceptible to devote yourself to religion.

Somali iq if they are someone who believe that just because they "behaving good" they will get their lives sorted out lmao. Then you get bitter and become atheist

The problem here has always been wrong premises and unrealistic expectations.


Goodbye.

 

[Clark69]

join us bro I started it

done

 

[Blackout.xl]

You really need to read up on history. Religion is responsible for so much destruction and devastation well beyond Islamic extremism today. And we would be much better off in a society that’s moral in the absence of religion. Once again, religions are created by mankind to reflect the morals of that specific society. Which is why you get all kinds of different religions throughout history but with mostly the same basic underlying values since humans have been embedded with and evolved to uphold certain morals. However the more dangerous beliefs varying by religion surrounding those basic morals and the conflict between different religions are what make the ideologies less preferable to an atheistic society that can come to a collective understanding of how we should behave.

Humans have been around for a couple hundred thousand years and religion most likely just as long. It’ll never die out because people don’t want to die and they want to create more meaning in their lives and happy endings after all this, but that’s not an excuse for creating fiction to trick people into acting a certain way in a civilized society. The tens of millions of atheists in the US today don’t have a problem being moral without needing a fairytale and neither should the rest of the population.

You can’t talk about death and destruction as an atheist

 

[Blackout.xl]

Here we go again with the moronic take that you should buy into a fairytale in order to preserve morals and values in society.

Religions reflect the values of the people who created them, not the other way around. Societies don’t need religions to be moral, and I’d go as far as saying it’d lead to much better results for civilization to be moral in the absence of a bunch of conflicting religions that all create divisiveness and encourage bigotry and hatred.

Societal values in the west since the late 20th century have moved forward without significant religious influence and went straight into capitalistic hedonism. JFL @ your take

“ muh bigotry and hatred”. What bigotry and hatred are you referring to? Not all religions are a monolith on this subject either.

edit: Yes and no. Religions do reflect in the cultures that they were created in but at the same time build up the values of cultures that they influence as they expand, which leads to the host culture spreading

 

[Blackout.xl]

Correlation doesn't equal causation. "Throughout history" is a stupid take.

Throughout history, atheists were not celebrated. In fact, a lot of them were killed. It's only the case today where this isn't happening anymore.

The world was ruled by religion once. Have you never heard of the Christian dark ages?

Pretty sure a lot of people didn't believe in God but didn't admit it.

Open a history book. Only Europe was controlled by Christianity in the dark ages, not the world. Furthermore the world always was and always has been religious

The dark ages happened because of the complete collapse of the Roman Empire and its successors. Not religion. If anything religion helped as it was the Catholic Church who preserved information from the roman period.

At the same time as the dark ages, the islamic Middle East was in a golden age. If you’re gonna call others low iq, at least have more than a surface (and biased) understanding of history/religion