Is there a good argument for atheism?

[enriquecuador]

I am consummate in my belief of Gods existence but is there actually any good arguments?

 

[Harold O'brien]

yes - it's called not being an 80 iq gullible cuck

 

[enriquecuador]

yes - it's called not being an 80 iq gullible cuck

wow namecalling straight away, thats a sign of intelligence! believing in God doesn't make you a cuck, unlike most the atheists out there basement dwelling losers who would do anything for attention from women (like you!) I said actual arguments.

 

[Deleted member 129808]

What created god?

 

[Aqualad]

There’s a lot of good arguments

For example why did god design the earth in a way which natural disasters would happen (tornadoes, earthquakes, etc.)

 

[enriquecuador]

What created god?

nothing? God has always existed.

 

[Deleted member 6305]

No
It's just post middle ages pseudo cuck stuff

 

[Deleted member 71093]

What created god?

The baker can’t be baked.

 

[thenewhebbe]

There’s a lot of good arguments

For example why did god design the earth in a way which natural disasters would happen (tornadoes, earthquakes, etc.)

This assumes god would be super against human getting hurt something that isn't rational assumtion

 

[Azim]

well i mean thinking theres a possibility of a creator existing and believing in an actual religion is a little different

the latter is pretty retarded though i mean like none of the religions we have make sense

 

[Aqualad]

This assumes god would be super against human getting hurt something that isn't rational assumtion

Huh?

 

[thenewhebbe]

Huh?

God can be evil , god can be indiffrent. So god isn't disproven by allowing earthquakes to happen

 

[134applesauce456]

God can be evil , god can be indiffrent. So god isn't disproven by allowing earthquakes to happen

or God might not have the power to help us

 

[thenewhebbe]

or God might not have the power to help us

Then he wouldnt be a god

 

[Aqualad]

God can be evil , god can be indiffrent. So god isn't disproven by allowing earthquakes to happen

I was referring to a loving god such as Jesus. No loving god would realistically create the earth in a way where there would be naturally needless widespread suffering due to natural disasters.

 

[Harold O'brien]

wow namecalling straight away, thats a sign of intelligence! believing in God doesn't make you a cuck, unlike most the atheists out there basement dwelling losers who would do anything for attention from women (like you!) I said actual arguments.

1. make a coherent defintion for "god" that isn't tautological
2. provide some motivation for its existence

then we'll talk

 

[pfl]

Not being atheist is bluepilled

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

Nah fuck gaytheists tbh

 

[WrothEnd]

Its impossible to prove or disprove his existence

For me it just sounds like a fairytale and makes no sense.

 

[enriquecuador]

1. make a coherent defintion for "god" that isn't tautological
2. provide some motivation for its existence

then we'll talk

God is the framework of existence, God is the creator of everything. I'm not saying god(s) is some elephant like hindus believe with hundreds of other "gods" or some man in the sky on a throne.

It is hard to define God as that is like saying create a set defintion for existence and meaning.

some reasons for Gods existence is the reason we have evolved so far from any other species with intelligence. Maths is the "code" if you will, behind the universe and its mysterys and we found it. No other species has evolved this far and humans had no need to evolve this far from an evolutiuonary standpoint.

There are plenty of other arguments but ultimately God is mainly faith and in a chaotic system the fact that we emerged from this with highly fine tuned laws for us, I believe in God fully, I understand people being agnostic but the point in my thread was asking if there was any sound arguments to disprove the existence of God.

 

[Harold O'brien]

God is the framework of existence, God is the creator of everything. I'm not saying god(s) is some elephant like hindus believe with hundreds of other "gods" or some man in the sky on a throne.

It is hard to define God as that is like saying create a set defintion for existence and meaning.

some reasons for Gods existence is the reason we have evolved so far from any other species with intelligence. Maths is the "code" if you will, behind the universe and its mysterys and we found it. No other species has evolved this far and humans had no need to evolve this far from an evolutiuonary standpoint.

There are plenty of other arguments but ultimately God is mainly faith and in a chaotic system the fact that we emerged from this with highly fine tuned laws for us, I believe in God fully, I understand people being agnostic but the point in my thread was asking if there was any sound arguments to disprove the existence of God.

this isn't coherent, btw

 

[fr0st]

I am consummate in my belief of Gods existence but is there actually any good arguments?

Yeah why do murderers go to hell?

 

[enriquecuador]

this isn't coherent, btw

you cannot define in a way in which you can with other things.

 

[enriquecuador]

Yeah why do murderers go to hell?

God gave us free will and a choice to be with God or without God, Murderers choose to stray away from God.

 

[vanillaicecream]

I am consummate in my belief of Gods existence but is there actually any good arguments?

Occam's razor and principle of sufficient reason completely obliterates Gods of religious specifically. If God's method of communication is a book, that is sufficiently explained by man-made storytelling and character invention which we know is a thing that happens. There is zero reason to appeal to an actual God behind it when it can be naturally accounted for.

 

[fr0st]

God gave us free will and a choice to be with God or without God, Murderers choose to stray away from God.

Murderers feel the need to kill as much as the need to drink or eat. How is it in any way fair to demand a murderer to live in constant agony and suffering just so that God will deem him worthy enough to not suffer eternal damnation.

 

[enriquecuador]

Occam's razor and principle of sufficient reason completely obliterates Gods of religious specifically. If God's method of communication is a book, that is sufficiently explained by man-made storytelling and character invention which we know is a thing that happens. There is zero reason to appeal to an actual God behind it when it can be naturally accounted for.

who said I was a apart of a set religion?

 

[johnypvpgod]

Both atheist and religious arguments work within their specific framework and worldview, Atheism can be motivated by real world sciences which are tangible compared to epistemological arguments presented by religion which base their views on the unseen.

But I think real truth is somewhere in agnosticism because being a religifag like princeleon on this forum, and bending the knee to authority along with entire congregations of fellow believers is retarded af but being obsessed with a religion like some atheists are is strange but fair considering its theists who pepper atheists with nagging


We dont have definite answers for some crazy shit like vibrational auras and astral projection which means we should leave some room for consideration of spiritual phenomena

 

[Harold O'brien]

you cannot define in a way in which you can with other things.

oh really? starting to sound like fairytale nonsense to me

 

[fr0st]

Murderers feel the need to kill as much as the need to drink or eat. How is it in any way fair to demand a murderer to live in constant agony and suffering just so that God will deem him worthy enough to not suffer eternal damnation.

In fact by eternities standards killing somebody is akin to just taking somebodies toy as a toddler why is there such an emphasis on the sin of murder? Why would god so strictly enforce this when atheists use the argument that not sinning all your life is no big deal because in the face or eternity life is so short?

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

if jesus truly had a window into the peak ancient wisdom of the universe why are there so many fundamental logical flaws in some of his explanations of god's omniscience

no being can have/be omniscience, omnipotence, omnibenevolence, omnipresence, and omnificent all at the same time

you think the son of a perfect being would be SOUND on logic for every single point of talking. why would "scholars" later have to explain this better lol

they have to clarify for a being who has all knowledge of the creation of the universe you think he might know a bit better

 

[enriquecuador]

oh really? starting to sound like fairytale nonsense to me

God is a test of faith. If you have any real arguments do present them

 

[Harold O'brien]

God is a test of faith. If you have any real arguments do present them

my argument is that you have no argument, you retarded cuck

 

[fr0st]

In fact by eternities standards killing somebody is akin to just taking somebodies toy as a toddler why is there such an emphasis on the sin of murder? Why would god so strictly enforce this when atheists use the argument that not sinning all your life is no big deal because in the face or eternity life is so short?

Moreover what if a murderer kills someone who is let's say 25 and has lived a life devoid of god who would later on be a Christian? How is it fair to deny the person who was murdered entrance to heaven his life wasn't finished yet?

 

[enriquecuador]

my argument is that you have no argument, you retarded cuck

My argument is that God is everything, just look around, and a test of faith. I was asking if anyone had any arguments against Gods existence with any merit. Do you?

 

[cucklek]

god (creator) exists but he doesnt have influence on earth. he still judges you on what you do tho

thats my believe

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Then he wouldnt be a god

Why he? God isn't an animal, it has no gender

And why not? God/god's could have created the origins of the universe and left, or become the universe

 

[optimisticzoomer]

My argument is that God is everything, just look around, and a test of faith. I was asking if anyone had any arguments against Gods existence with any merit. Do you?

Arguing against the existence of something which has no evidence is futile

It's impossible

The argument against it is the fact there is no evidence

 

[looksmaxxed]

no, especially when the smartest human being to ever exist already proved god exists

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