Is there really no fix for a subhuman PFL?

[Rabbi]

My eyes make me look like St bo2cel.
I just realised I look like an abused dog.
Is PFL really unfixable?

 

[Deleted member 9699]

Just don't be under 28.5mm
PFL is overrated, most top male models don't even have insane PFLs. It's only a problem if yours is subhuman tier >28.55

 

[Ocelot]

inb4 some autist mentions "bilteral orbital expansion" a surgery that doesn't exist

there isn't any fix for PFL itself but playing with eyebrow length if you have it can improve it.

 

[hairyballscel]

mse could help, or lateral epicathoplasty

 

[6’1cel]

My eyes make me look like St bo2cel.
I just realised I look like an abused dog.
Is PFL really unfixable?

dunno
mine are 38mm iirc

 

[Adreyan]

My eyes make me look like St bo2cel.
I just realised I look like an abused dog.
Is PFL really unfixable?

How long?

 

[Deleted member 4430]

inb4 some autist mentions "bilteral orbital expansion" a surgery that doesn't exist

@RealSurgerymax

 

[Deleted member 8699]

My eyes make me look like St bo2cel.
I just realised I look like an abused dog.
Is PFL really unfixable?

cantho

 

[Rabbi]

How long?

idk just looks shit

 

[Rabbi]

How long?

https://looksmax.org/threads/morph-psl-before-and-after.258645/#post-4445507

PFL made a huge difference imo

 

[SadnessWYJ]

full eyebrows can give illusion of wider check @16tyo avi

 

[Deleted member 7076]

i have avg pfl but foid tier long eyelashes which makes it look long

 

[Lawyer]

there isn't any fix for PFL itself

Theres is lateral canthoplasty, it is quite limited tho.

 

[Ocelot]

Theres is lateral canthoplasty, it is quite limited tho.

that doesn't change PFL does it? just loosens the lower lid iirc

 

[Lawyer]

that doesn't change PFL does it? just loosens the lower lid iirc

It can lengthen the PFL too.

It works by detaching the lateral canthus from its original position and then anchoring it closer to the lateral orbital rim, the amount of PFL increase you can get depends on the distance between the lateral canthus and the lateral orbital rim prior to the surgery.

Cosmetic Lateral Canthoplasty: Preserving the Lateral Canthal Angle

Cosmetic lateral canthoplasty, in which the size of the eye is increased by extending the palpebral fissure and decreasing the degree of the eye slant, has become a prevalent procedure for East Asians. However, it is not uncommon for there to be complications ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[RealSurgerymax]

inb4 some autist mentions "bilteral orbital expansion" a surgery that doesn't exist

there isn't any fix for PFL itself but playing with eyebrow length if you have it can improve it.

Actually it does.

Converse and Telsey classified their levels of the Facial Tripartite in 1971 in English after Tessier himself also published about Bilateral Orbital expansion through orbital Osteotomy, in French.

The closest application would be the Type III Facial Tripartite but without the interdental LeFort II.

Further the Orbitozygomatic Osteotomy (Tripod Osteotomy) has been adapted from its regular use for neurosurgical access to correct hemifacial microsomia. It is well known the tripod Osteotomy is useful in that it can be moved in all three dimensions. It could be used bilaterally to expand the orbit.

In order to be a candidate the patient would need to be a candidate for orbital decompression as well, sense that is essentially what is happening (and what the Facial Tripartite was used for.)

Big post (and video) coming, have been working on it for weeks.

 

[RealSurgerymax]

@RealSurgerymax

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[Ocelot]

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Actually it does.

Converse and Telsey classified their levels of the Facial Tripartite in 1971 in English after Tessier himself also published about Bilateral Orbital expansion through orbital Osteotomy, in French.

The closest application would be the Type III Facial Tripartite but without the interdental LeFort II.

Further the Orbitozygomatic Osteotomy (Tripod Osteotomy) has been adapted from its regular use for neurosurgical access to correct hemifacial microsmia. It is well known the tripod Osteotomy is useful in that it can be moved in all three dimensions. It could be used bilaterally to expand the orbit.

In order to be a candidate the patient would need to be a candidate for orbital decompression as well, sense that is essentially what is happening (and what the Facial Tripartite was used for.)

Big post (and video) coming, have been working on it for weeks.

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well has someone ever gotten it?

Sounds like theories to me, haven't heard of a surgeon offering this.

@SubhumanCurrycel willing to guineapigmaxx for this?

 

[RealSurgerymax]

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well has someone ever gotten it?

Sounds like theories to me, haven't heard of a surgeon offering this.

@SubhumanCurrycel willing to guineapigmaxx for this?

Yes in the 1970s by Converse at New York University, by Tessier in Paris, and it was applied again and documented in the literature in 1995 with pictorial results for a syndrome patient.

There are modern anecdotal (unpublished) reports of it being used in USA for aesthetic purposes but I don’t want to mention their names.

Best thing to do is find Craniofacial surgeons and email them directly.

 

[Rabbi]

Yes in the 1970s by Converse at New York University, by Tessier in Paris, and it was applied again and documented in the literature in 1995 with pictorial results for a syndrome patient.

There are modern anecdotal (unpublished) reports of it being used in USA for aesthetic purposes but I don’t want to mention their names.

Best thing to do is find Craniofacial surgeons and email them directly.

Yo I might be slow on the uptake here but are you an actual doctor?

 

[Deleted member 10987]

Curl eyelashes

 

[Deleted member 3990]

"bilteral orbital expansion"

would be the most tremendous surgery there is, tho

 

[Ocelot]

would be the most tremendous surgery there is, tho

just wait until reincarnationplasty comes out