Is there still time for me to pubertymaxx and if so how can I do it

[Osie]

...What? Uhh

My bad I meant don't buy everything if you cannot afford it. Like, afford to purchase the compounds and supplements more than once, take off a supplement. I recommend that you try to buy one of each supplement I listed in the possible side effects category.

 

[Osie]

Dang, I didn't know that about MK677, my parents always call me for dinner, lunch, etc so I have no idea how I'll be able to fool them eating only one meal a day for so long. I'd also have to ship it all so they'd know, am I screwed up?

Ask one of your friends with more lenient parents if you could ship it to their house. You could do it naturally as well and only get a few vitamins and chill. Just less results. You don't have to eat once a day, my bad everything I said arent absolutes. I recommend eating less, drinking more water, and taking one of the blood sugar glucose supplements if using MK677 after or before eating a meal. MK677 raises blood sugar

 

[Osie]

Thanks, but what are AIs/what do they do exactly?

Also, if you can could you list any sources where u got the things u said I could research more about it?

Your sources are all country-dependent tbh, if you live in America, I know a few sources. Same thing with Canada. AI's are aromatase inhibitors and block the conversion of test to estrogen. Steridoal(Aromasin) and Non-steroidal (Letrozole, Arimidex) block this conversion in different ways to different levels of efficiencies. At the minmuim, they can reduce E2 levels by 30%

 

[JCaesar]

My bad I meant don't buy everything if you cannot afford it. Like, afford to purchase the compounds and supplements more than once, take off a supplement. I recommend that you try to buy one of each supplement I listed in the possible side effects category.

Oh thanks lol. Guess you mean I should try one of each of them but only keep the ones that I can afford to keep buying.

Ask one of your friends with more lenient parents if you could ship it to their house. You could do it naturally as well and only get a few vitamins and chill. Just less results. You don't have to eat once a day, my bad everything I said arent absolutes. I recommend eating less, drinking more water, and taking one of the blood sugar glucose supplements if using MK677 after or before eating a meal. MK677 raises blood sugar

Would it be stupid to try to talk to my parents about it? If everything there fails I might as well just take the vitamins a few supplements : /

Your sources are all country-dependent tbh, if you live in America, I know a few sources. Same thing with Canada.

Guess they don't ship to other places, ouch

I was also talking about sources as the material u got for what u said (you know, researches and stuff) so I could search more about if if possible

AI's are aromatase inhibitors and block the conversion of test to estrogen. Steridoal(Aromasin) and Non-steroidal (Letrozole, Arimidex) block this conversion in different ways to different levels of efficiencies. At the minmuim, they can reduce E2 levels by 30%

Thanks for explaining, what's the desirable % of reducing E2 levels I should do to try and achieve good progress without too many side effects? And which of the supplements negate their side effects exactly

Also if I may ask why did u reccommend MK677 instead of HGH, Wouldn't it be technically worse since it has greater side effects than HGH?

 

[Osie]

Would it be stupid to try to talk to my parents about it? If everything there fails I might as well just take the vitamins a few supplements : /

Talk to your doctor first. Ask your parents if you could discuss with your doctor about using alternative methods for height growth at your age. Maybe see if they'll allow you to get an AI ( assuming that you're shorter than average.) Talking to your parents might be pointless because the most impactful things I told you about are AI (aromatase inhibitor) and MK677 (growth hormone secretagogue.)
Aromatase inhibitors are used for breast cancer patients and are the only registered users (doctors can prescribe anything though if they deem fit.) If you think your parents are open-minded and cool, you could tell them about aromatase inhibitors used for height growth and maybe MK677 if you feel really comfortable.

 

[Osie]

Guess they don't ship to other places, ouch

No, there are companies in each company for these compounds however, I don't know any companies that sell MK677 and AI outside of Canada and the US. You can search for companies that ship all over the world (shipping might be expensive.

 

[Osie]

Also if I may ask why did u reccommend MK677 instead of HGH, Wouldn't it be technically worse since it has greater side effects than HGH?

I don't recommend MK677 over HGH ( at least I don't think I did). and I recommend that you try your best to get HGH at all costs. But if you aren't able to access it (through the internet or prescribed by your doctor) or aren't able to afford it (300$-1000$ a month possibly, don't know. ) MK677 is your next best source however, HGH IS THE BEST AND TRY YOUR BEST TO GET HGH, YOU ARE GUARANTEED TO GROW WITH HGH.

 

[Osie]

Thanks for explaining, what's the desirable % of reducing E2 levels I should do to try and achieve good progress without too many side effects? And which of the supplements negate their side effects exactly

Around 50% to 70% of E2 level reduction to prolong growth plate closure has been shown to be proven to reduce bone age. You probably won't deal with any side effects besides acne or joint pain or stiffness. I already listed the bone pain supplements and recommended a skincare routine.

 

[Osie]

I was also talking about sources as the material u got for what u said (you know, researches and stuff) so I could search more about if if possible

Here are the studies:

Overview Study

 

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I don't recommend MK677 over HGH ( at least I don't think I did). and I recommend that you try your best to get HGH at all costs. But if you aren't able to access it (through the internet or prescribed by your doctor) or aren't able to afford it (300$-1000$ a month possibly, don't know. ) MK677 is your next best source however, HGH IS THE BEST AND TRY YOUR BEST TO GET HGH, YOU ARE GUARANTEED TO GROW WITH HGH.

if im 6'1 at 15, should i also get MK677 or HGH?

 

[JCaesar]

Talk to your doctor first. Ask your parents if you could discuss with your doctor about using alternative methods for height growth at your age. Maybe see if they'll allow you to get an AI ( assuming that you're shorter than average.) Talking to your parents might be pointless because the most impactful things I told you about are AI (aromatase inhibitor) and MK677 (growth hormone secretagogue.)
Aromatase inhibitors are used for breast cancer patients and are the only registered users (doctors can prescribe anything though if they deem fit.) If you think your parents are open-minded and cool, you could tell them about aromatase inhibitors used for height growth and maybe MK677 if you feel really comfortable.

I don't have a doctor lel, it's been years since my parents brang me to one. Lots of people my age mog me in height but not enough for me to be considered shorter than average (I'm around 5'9). Honestly I think one of my only options at least rn would be talking to them, unless I find another way which rn I can't really think of one : /

For the dosages, Take 400 IU's of Vitamin D3, like 100mcg a day of Vitamin K2 (take with a meal, especially one with fat. Take 1000mg of MSM ( you don't have to take it, just good for impaired joint health,) Take 500-1000mg of Calcium. You may want to develop a skincare routine from the increased testosterone causing increased sebum levels which may cause acne.
MK677 dosage: 10-20mg, 3x a week, Friday-Saturday-Sunday ( these are the best days since you can sleep the most on these days). Take It before bed with cortisol decrease and choline increaser.
If you want real results from MK677, take it with Alpha-GPC, CDP-Citocholine, And 5-6 eggs a day, and take like 30-40 mg of MK677. T
To prevent side effects: Take 400-800 IU of Vitamin E (800 may be a lil bit dangerous) Take 300-1000mg of Vitamin B6 OR P5P (pyridoxine) for prolactin sides since MK677 increases prolactin pretty severely.
Cortisol increases: Take any one of two of these supplements: KSM-66/Ashwaghnda, Omega-3's, L-theanine, ZMA's, Vitamin C, Lemon Balm, and Rhodiola.
To prevent bloating and water retention: Take dandelion root and potassium supplements ( don't take too much and drink water with it since you'll be peeing a lot) Only take it on days where the bloating is too much

Are these the default dosages for everyone or can they change depending on height/weight/age?

You may want to develop a skincare routine from the increased testosterone causing increased sebum levels which may cause acne.

Btw can't increasing my testosterone like that be prejudicial for natural testosterone production or even mess it up?

I don't recommend MK677 over HGH ( at least I don't think I did). and I recommend that you try your best to get HGH at all costs. But if you aren't able to access it (through the internet or prescribed by your doctor) or aren't able to afford it (300$-1000$ a month possibly, don't know. ) MK677 is your next best source however, HGH IS THE BEST AND TRY YOUR BEST TO GET HGH, YOU ARE GUARANTEED TO GROW WITH HGH.

If I get HGH what would I have to take to prevent side effect (like u said with MK677)?

Around 50% to 70% of E2 level reduction to prolong growth plate closure has been shown to be proven to reduce bone age. You probably won't deal with any side effects besides acne or joint pain or stiffness.

Hmm alright, is it good to do that even if not taking MK677

Here are the studies:

Overview Study

Thanks, only it? gonna try to do a read of it later.

 

[Osie]

Thanks, only it? gonna try to do a read of it later.

There's way more but that article is an overview and provides other articles. One google search will show you everything you need to know tbh.

Aromatase Inhibitors in puberty, and see the studies that come with
Growth hormone at bone age 14,15,16

 

[Osie]

Are these the default dosages for everyone or can they change depending on height/weight/age?


Btw can't increasing my testosterone like that be prejudicial for natural testosterone production or even mess it up?

No, because e2 is what closes the growth plates, but yea they are negative side effects. AI's increases natural testosterone, it doesn't make/give a whole new form. If you read the studies, you'll see what I mean.

The dosages aren't the default. For example, MK677, in growth hormone deficient children, used 0.8mg per KG. And 1.6mg per KG and 2.8mg per KG. However, those are pretty high levels of MK677 and can come with more side effects since you are older. So it just depends, you could search up all the dosages for the supplements for your age group.

 

[Osie]

if im 6'1 at 15, should i also get MK677 or HGH?

If you want to, I personally wouldn't. I would just do things naturally at such a height like that, most kids your age no longer have enough growth time to even surpass you so you're good. It's best to do none of these things and be happy with yourself since height doesn't matter, only if you trying to be an athlete.

 

[JCaesar]

There's way more but that article is an overview and provides other articles. One google search will show you everything you need to know tbh.

Aromatase Inhibitors in puberty, and see the studies that come with
Growth hormone at bone age 14,15,16

Thanks, I ask that since I usually can't find many sources on google that would help with taking it at this age without a considered height deficiency anyway.

No, because e2 is what closes the growth plates, but yea they are negative side effects. AI's increases natural testosterone, it doesn't make/give a whole new form. If you read the studies, you'll see what I mean.

OH, I think I get it, since it only prevents testosterone from being converted to estrogen you're gonna have more natural testosterone with it, correct?

The dosages aren't the default. For example, MK677, in growth hormone deficient children, used 0.8mg per KG. And 1.6mg per KG and 2.8mg per KG. However, those are pretty high levels of MK677 and can come with more side effects since you are older. So it just depends, you could search up all the dosages for the supplements for your age group.

Yeah, thing is most of those dosages are for people with considered height deficiency at least outside this forum usually, idk if that would change the dosages though. If I get HGH would I have to take anything to prevent side effects tho, like you said is needed if taking MK677?

With that tho, do you think I should actually take HGH or MK677, I'm 5'9 and just turned 15? Just want other opinions lol.

 

[JCaesar]

If you want to, I personally wouldn't. I would just do things naturally at such a height like that, most kids your age no longer have enough growth time to even surpass you so you're good. It's best to do none of these things and be happy with yourself since height doesn't matter, only if you trying to be an athlete.

If you're trying to be an athlete you usually wouldn't be allowed in if you have taken HGH or MK677, at least that's the case with more adult competitors in some sports, may depend on where you are though. I guess you'd have to hide it from them if you really take it JFL.