is this a recessed maxilla?

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not recessed but not projected either. its js there
 
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ccwb said:
Deffo projected
this seems sna of 82
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how come my nose is hooked tho? is that just unfortunate genetics? i also feel like im lacking a bit of forward growth. im not sure what to do to make my side profile better. any criticism is taken and accepted :)
 
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oooooooooo8484848 said:
how come my nose is hooked tho? is that just unfortunate genetics? i also feel like im lacking a bit of forward growth. im not sure what to do to make my side profile better. any criticism is taken and accepted :)
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Who told u everytime a nose is hooked a maxilla is recessed omg man:feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:
 
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ccwb said:
Who told u everytime a nose is hooked a maxilla is recessed omg man:feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:
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its not the case everytime obviously but its a big telltale sign (for the most part). just feel like this jew hook nose gives the impression i have shit forward growth
 
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This is your Maxilla for context (tho u prob already know) but I'd say its slightly projected and definitely not recessed.
 
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Hunterlt said:
I think it’s your orbital bones, not your maxilla. Stick your tongue out and see how much your hyoid changes, I’m pretty sure that’s a way to check
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can you explain how the hyoid changes with maxilla growth?
 
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LooksOrDeath said:
can you explain how the hyoid changes with maxilla growth?
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That’s for width not forward growth indicator
This nigga prolly heard this from shami
How does sticking tounge show forward growth :feelskek:
 
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ccwb said:
That’s for width not forward growth indicator
This nigga prolly heard this from shami
How does sticking tounge show forward growth :feelskek:
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That's what I'm thinking...
 
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ccwb said:
That’s for width not forward growth indicator
This nigga prolly heard this from shami
How does sticking tounge show forward growth :feelskek:
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It doesn't show forward growth I'm pretty sure it just pushes ur jaw forward a bit and maybe makes a small difference on very low body fat individuals
 
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ccwb said:
Deffo projected
this seems sna of 82
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how come it looks flat on this pic for example? i feel like theres some sort of flatness / hollowness. is this like infra issue? @LooksOrDeath
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LooksOrDeath said:
yes, recessed infras
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so its not maxillary retrusion, just recessed infras right?
LooksOrDeath said:
tuck your chin in
your head posture is too forward
this should help you look more dimorphic which i think is something you could use
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i try to keep good head posture but i have inward gonions and my gonial angle becomes invisible otherwise :feelswhy:
 
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zygocell said:
Ur maxilla is fine, and yeah infras is what makes that effect of flatness. Its also a bad side pic. The one above is much better.
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yeah i just took the pic in the darkness w flash because it highlights the flatness more. is there any softmax that actually works to reduce the hollowness? ive tried caffeine eye serum etc but my eyebags are genuinely brutal
LooksOrDeath said:
Keeping proper head posture plus mewing should stimulate ramus growth at this age
just bear with it for now.
Though your ramus seems decent anyhow
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i like to think i have decent ramus length and a "decent" gonial angle, however my front is pretty horrible because of my gonions and it just makes me have a very ovaled face even though i have pretty okay cheekbones
 
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oooooooooo8484848 said:
i like to think i have decent ramus length and a "decent" gonial angle, however my front is pretty horrible because of my gonions and it just makes me have a very ovaled face even though i have pretty okay cheekbones
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gonions dont matter that much for front profile
just try what I suggested for a bit, it should help
 
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LooksOrDeath said:
gonions dont matter that much for front profile
just try what I suggested for a bit, it should help
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ok, i will. also i dont know if this changes how the maxilla is perceived but in those side profile pictures my teeth arent touching, theyre slightly apart. i can send a photo with my teeth touching if needed
 
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oooooooooo8484848 said:
ok, i will. also i dont know if this changes how the maxilla is perceived but in those side profile pictures my teeth arent touching, theyre slightly apart. i can send a photo with my teeth touching if needed
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LooksOrDeath said:
mandible looks a bit shorter now

your teeth are supposed to touch btw, for forward growth
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yeah i kinda have sfs so i have to fraud a bit, i dont think my ramus is that bad anyway tho but my lower third length is definitely fucked
 
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oooooooooo8484848 said:
is there any softmax that actually works to reduce the hollowness? ive tried caffeine
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Its a lack of bone support. Cant really do much besides sleeping a lot and staying hydrated. Caffeine eye serum works but it wont fix a bone issue ofc. Serums just help to give the illusion of less recessed infras. (Also If u want to fraud it when going outside, just buy a concealer) Thats pretty much u can do.
 
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zygocell said:
Yes thats the pic i mentioned previously
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in the pic i tagged u in my teeth are touching, in the other one my teeth were slightly apart u can tell because of the mandible length just wanted to double check incase that would have any effect on how my maxilla looks :) but if it still looks projected thats all that matters
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Its a lack of bone support. Cant really do much besides sleeping a lot and staying hydrated. Caffeine eye serum works but it wont fix a bone issue ofc. Serums just help to give the illusion of less recessed infras. (Also If u want to fraud it when going outside, just buy a concealer) Thats pretty much u can do.
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i might have to buy concealer then yeah lol might opt for fillers tbh
 
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oooooooooo8484848 said:
in the pic i tagged u in my teeth are touching, in the other one my teeth were slightly apart u can tell because of the mandible length just wanted to double check incase that would have any effect on how my maxilla looks :) but if it still looks projected thats all that matters

i might have to buy concealer then yeah lol might opt for fillers tbh
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Yeah u dont need crazy surgeries. Literally everyone has recessed infras. Its not a big deal.
 
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LooksOrDeath said:
can you explain how the hyoid changes with maxilla growth?
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When stick out your tongue, the hyoid raises since there is now space in your mouth and with a recessed maxilla and narrow palate there is not enough space
 
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