is this achievable with lefort 2

[Rzn]

dont gaf if anyone is giving me lefort 2 i will go to the ends of the earth to look like a normal human
yeah the morph isnt good you get the point

 

[mohito]

Too optimistic

 

[Rzn]

Too optimistic

is this sort of change possible at all

 

[mohito]

is this sort of change possible at all

Not realistically

 

[Rzn]

Not realistically

fuck, couldnt get this far even with lefort/implants?

 

[mohito]

fuck, couldnt get this far even with lefort/implants?

Not "this" far

 

[zemult]

It might just be over man

 

[Rzn]

You don't need to worry about it, since your not getting lefort 2. Even if you actually cough up the funds, and the balls to do it. GL finding a good surgeon who would agree to it, short of a reconstruction case.

The idea that you will go to the earth to find someone to do it is peak retarded. I'm sure you could find plenty of people who would do it. Massive difference between people who will do it for money, and surgeons who can execute it in a competent and highly aesthetic fashion.

guess i didn't really explain well enough here, but taking my words in the OP at face value, you're not wrong
I do not want a lefort 2. I do want a modified LF1, but that's only to avoid the infraorbital implants I'd need afterward - that said, it looks like this is all a losing game. I'm just probably stuck being ugly due to my bone structure.
I'll respond with a little more detail

your not getting lefort 2

Correct - I am getting a lefort though

Even if you actually cough up the funds, and the balls to do it

Money is covered and I've poisoned myself while running experiments before, I am insane and also retarded.

finding a good surgeon who would agree to it, short of a reconstruction case

The question was meant to be a hypothetical; "is this transformation possible". I just mentioned LF2 as I'm already getting a lefort - that's my bad

The idea that you will go to the earth to find someone to do it is peak retarded

Fuck no bro lol. I'd rather not be botched than be botched by some retard who will do anything for enough money.
...that said, I am gonna be real here. I think the risks of LFII are overplayed a little bit, but even then, the required grafting would fuck up my harmony. In a hypothetical where I'd find a doctor who was willing to do it and 100% wouldn't fuck up my face/nerves I'd do it in a heartbeat. That hypothetical is not real.

 

[horsefacin]

dont gaf if anyone is giving me lefort 2 i will go to the ends of the earth to look like a normal human
yeah the morph isnt good you get the point

Cut off the expansion above the nose. Bruh you morphed all the way up to the supras. LF2's main utility is midface and nose projection

 

[Rzn]

Bruh you morphed all the way up to the supras

I dragged my eyebrows down about 3 pixels, I did that because I'd be getting something done for upper eyelid hooding and that was really the only way to do represent that.

I fixed up the morph a bit. Here's one with some more realistic expectations. Still uncanny. I'm not asking specifically LF 2 here by the way for future readers, I am just retarded.

Fixed eyes, dragged lower 2/3 back a couple MM and reduced zygo increase.

 

[Rzn]

More realistic before/after gif

I'm still fuckin some parts up like the nose
Sorry I've never done a morph

 

[Versipellis]

dont gaf if anyone is giving me lefort 2 i will go to the ends of the earth to look like a normal human
yeah the morph isnt good you get the point

You can accomplish what you are looking for with double jaw (le fort 1) and implants. No need for le fort 2 which is never going to happen anyways

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

dont gaf if anyone is giving me lefort 2 i will go to the ends of the earth to look like a normal human
yeah the morph isnt good you get the point

You're not getting Lefort 2. Quit daydreaming.

 

[6.4 looks]

Good luck getting Le Fort II, you’re a dollar millionaire, right? If not, they’ll deny you even Le Fort I

 

[_Lucius]

Good luck getting Le Fort II, you’re a dollar millionaire, right? If not, they’ll deny you even Le Fort I

Doesn’t matter how much money you have, implants is better than Lefort 2. The risk is not worth it

 

[Rzn]

Doesn’t matter how much money you have, implants is better than Lefort 2. The risk is not worth it

wow you have provided so much to the thread that other people haven’t said already
the past quintillion people in the thread before you have said this

Good luck getting Le Fort II, you’re a dollar millionaire, right? If not, they’ll deny you even Le Fort I

you are a retard if you think this is true

You're not getting Lefort 2. Quit daydreaming.

great contribution
read

I'm not asking specifically LF 2 here by the way for future readers, I am just retarded.

The question was meant to be a hypothetical; "is this transformation possible". I just mentioned LF2 as I'm already getting a lefort - that's my bad

the funniest thing about this all is i am NOT GETTING lf 2 but i already know someone very skilled who would do it (aka NOT giant/rsm)
i’ve saved up 5k in the past 3 months making $20k/yr and im about to double my income in a month
goddamn people just won’t read through before they jump to spouting some condescending shit like i’m some greycel

 

[Rzn]

shit is so annoying
another thing - surgeons worth their weight know that the higher leforts actually aren’t all that dangerous
No I am not coping about getting one
Just because they are aware they aren’t super dangerous doesn’t mean they are willing to perform them either
The question was not “Hey guys I joined yesterday do you think I can get a lefort 2 if I ask for it?”
Christ almighty this pissed me off immediately after waking up
One singular response with a molecule of answer
“you could achieve this with bimax and implants”
Literally all I was looking for Fuck this is so annoying
The most recent morph (it still sucks)

 

[GymcellingForLife]

dont gaf if anyone is giving me lefort 2 i will go to the ends of the earth to look like a normal human
yeah the morph isnt good you get the point

I dont think the first morph is possible even with lefort 2 and implants. Your basically doubling your face here.

 

[Rzn]

I dont think the first morph is possible even with lefort 2 and implants. Your basically doubling your face here.

Yeah I overdid the length pretty big. My most recent morph still sucks balls, but I think it shows what I’m after on a less technical level a bit better
I have a pretty accurate one somewhere on my laptop but I just roke up

 

[_Lucius]

wow you have provided so much to the thread that other people haven’t said already
the past quintillion people in the thread before you have said this

you are a retard if you think this is true

great contribution
read



the funniest thing about this all is i am NOT GETTING lf 2 but i already know someone very skilled who would do it (aka NOT giant/rsm)
i’ve saved up 5k in the past 3 months making $20k/yr and im about to double my income in a month
goddamn people just won’t read through before they jump to spouting some condescending shit like i’m some greycel

You have no idea what you are talking about. What do you mean "someone skilled would do it", and it not being Giant? You know Giant isn't a licensed surgeon right? Maybe you are confusing 2-piece Lefort 1 with Lefort 2. Lefort 1 with implants and rhino will give the same results without the massive risks that come with Lefort 2.

 

[Rzn]

You have no idea what you are talking about. What do you mean "someone skilled would do it", and it not being Giant? You know Giant isn't a licensed surgeon right? Maybe you are confusing 2-piece Lefort 1 with Lefort 2. Lefort 1 with implants and rhino will give the same results without the massive risks that come with Lefort 2.

dude what the fuck are you even saying i wouldn’t need rhino with a lefort 1 retard it would straighten my nose out, not the opposite
joined yesterday by the way
read the room
i don’t give a fuck about realsurgerymax i haven’t been researching him i just know he/his team is offering higher cuts now and im not going through them
like what are you even saying

“what do you mean someone skilled would do it and what do you mean not giant”
exactly what the fuck i said
try reading the post and you will understand:
“i already know someone very skilled who would do it (aka NOT giant/rsm)”

 

[Rzn]

once again clarifying that the question was a hypothetical and i will not be getting a lefort 2 despite having medical cause, money and access for the future replies

 

[Rex.]

dont gaf if anyone is giving me lefort 2 i will go to the ends of the earth to look like a normal human
yeah the morph isnt good you get the point

put the fries in the bag.

All these delusional people talking about lf2 as if they would ever get it

 

[Rzn]

put the fries in the bag.

All these delusional people talking about lf2 as if they would ever get it

Read the thread retard
Literally the fucking reply above yours

 

[Rzn]

At this point I’m going to get one done just to spite retards spouting because they DNR a single reply

 

[Rex.]

At this point I’m going to get one done just to spite retards spouting because they DNR a single reply

dnr

 

[Rzn]

dnr

Can’t even blame you guys but didn’t expect this many people to really believe I am that stupid at my join date and age

 

[topgrey]

dude what the fuck are you even saying i wouldn’t need rhino with a lefort 1 retard it would straighten my nose out, not the opposite
joined yesterday by the way
read the room
i don’t give a fuck about realsurgerymax i haven’t been researching him i just know he/his team is offering higher cuts now and im not going through them
like what are you even saying

“what do you mean someone skilled would do it and what do you mean not giant”
exactly what the fuck i said
try reading the post and you will understand:
“i already know someone very skilled who would do it (aka NOT giant/rsm)”

who would do it

 

[Lookologist003]

another thing - surgeons worth their weight know that the higher leforts actually aren’t all that dangerous
No I am not coping about getting one

Who said so? What did you hear to lead you to conclude such a thing? Can you remember? Was it the surgeon who you mention? And how did he explain that is so? Who are "surgeons worth their weight?" Pardon me, but that quite a big claim. Cutting more bone and moving the nasopharynx isn't all that much more dangerous?

Literally all I was looking for Fuck this is so annoying

I could say you could achieve this with a Le Fort 2 without reasoning also. How useful is that?

 

[Rzn]

I could say you could achieve this with a Le Fort 2 without reasoning also. How useful is that?

This is useful as this was the exact answer I was looking for, so first off, thanks.
The only way it could be more useful is just suggestions beyond infra/malar implants, but I’m not here to tell people how to give me advice.

Was it the surgeon who you mention?

No. Most data on LF2/3 dangers is lefort fracture mortality, not osteotomy. That said, the existing data shows the vast majority of pediatric complications are minor complications.
The link is not working as I’m in the middle of nowhere I can post it later https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4219913/

The rate in lefort 3 fractures - not osteotomies - resulting in mortality is in the low single digits. I’d pull up blindness statistics if I had more time. I’m writing this a bit all over the place right now, sorry.

The osteotomy is not without risk, but it is played up much higher because of this. I don’t really know why this thread is so concerned with nitpicking the details of a procedure I’m not getting. It was simply a hypothetical.

Pardon me, but that quite a big claim. Cutting more bone and moving the nasopharynx isn't all that much more dangerous?

I am aware and agree that it’s a big claim
I shouldn’t say it’s “not much more dangerous”, but it certainly isn’t as dangerous as the common narrative leads people to believe.

 

[Lookologist003]

The link is not working as I’m in the middle of nowhere I can post it later https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4219913/

Wow. That was awesome. I can't believe that hospitals do in fact perform Lefort III and Monobloc. This author at the Phildelphia Children's Hospital was badass.
Thanks for the link. I'm keeping it. I'm slightly less ignorant today then I was yesterday.

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I think there might be more complications in adults who are getting distraction osteogenesis. They say you can get up to 30mm of advancement in maxilla and upper maxilla. And I'm like whaaaaaaat ?! But now to the question in the OP, I think it could be possible if there were no physiological restrictions in the nasopharynx and the "otopharynx"

The morph is just a picture, but you can guess if it were real, that'd be a big BSSO and a Lefort II. The thing I won't know is how those two things are syncronised or how the braces will have to be. The maxilla is pulled forward over a week, but the BSSO is done on the day in as little as two hours.

 

[NarrowBoneMarrow]

Being a 2020cel and realizing your subhuman nature all this time is fucking brutal, I’ve only noticed it since 2024 and I’ve still gone insane

Also sorry to say this but 20/40k a year is brutal especially to afford this surgery, how old are you?

 

[EugenicsIsLaw]

dont gaf if anyone is giving me lefort 2 i will go to the ends of the earth to look like a normal human
yeah the morph isnt good you get the point

No you need bsso + genio for the mandible. You probably need lefort 2 followed by lefort 1 + bsso + sliding genio (trimax) followed by rhino for this morph.