Is this guy Natty? (GYMCELS GTFIH)

[Funnyunenjoyer1]

Cuz no way right? he has foid gaze chad body now, ( his Chest genetics ain't it but overall bodyshape is foid gaze )

 

[ChadOrDeath]

At first glance yeah, Impressive since he had a gigashit base to start with, His muscle mass and definition looks attainable

 

[Funnyunenjoyer1]

At first glance yeah, Impressive since he had a gigashit base to start with, His muscle mass and definition looks attainable

how did he gigabuff his shoulders so much that his waist look super small now?

 

[Ultimate Subhuman™]

of course

 

[itzyaboyJJ]

how did he gigabuff his shoulders so much that his waist look super small now?

Caption says 4 year transformation so most likely natty

 

[ChadOrDeath]

how did he gigabuff his shoulders so much that his waist look super small now?

He is leaner now and therefore looks bigger in camera, Irl he would look athletic/fit in shirts rather than "big", He also could have gotten a pump in the video to look better

 

[einzigartig]

Caption says 4 year transformation so most likely natty

he looks ethnic so hard to believe natty cause they usually have shit genes

 

[itzyaboyJJ]

he looks ethnic so hard to believe natty cause they usually have shit genes

Nga what
He looks white jfl

 

[einzigartig]

Nga what
He looks white jfl

not with his orbitals jfl

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

Could be natty, shoulders only thing that look slightly suspect

 

[einzigartig]

Could be natty, shoulders only thing that look slightly suspect

explain how to get shoulders natty?

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

explain how to get shoulders natty?

A large genetic component if I am being honest, I know a guy 1 year training and his delts insert long with wide clavicles they are quite developed and just look aesthetic despite relatively lower mass.
To build them you want some sort of overheadpressing movement. Standing or seated overhead press with a barbell or dumbbell I usually include two of them. Then you want some sort of medial delt specific work like lateral raises or upright row with a wider grip. Then for rear delts facepulls or rear dealt fly.

 

[einzigartig]

A large genetic component if I am being honest, I know a guy 1 year training and his delts insert long with wide clavicles they are quite developed and just look aesthetic despite relatively lower mass.
To build them you want some sort of overheadpressing movement. Standing or seated overhead press with a barbell or dumbbell I usually include two of them. Then you want some sort of medial delt specific work like lateral raises or upright row with a wider grip. Then for rear delts facepulls or rear dealt fly.

is a machine press also fine instead of a barbell or dumbell?

 

[einzigartig]

A large genetic component if I am being honest, I know a guy 1 year training and his delts insert long with wide clavicles they are quite developed and just look aesthetic despite relatively lower mass.
To build them you want some sort of overheadpressing movement. Standing or seated overhead press with a barbell or dumbbell I usually include two of them. Then you want some sort of medial delt specific work like lateral raises or upright row with a wider grip. Then for rear delts facepulls or rear dealt fly.

thanks btw

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

is a machine press also fine instead of a barbell or dumbell?

This is personal opinion but I would always prioritize a free weight movement over a machine. Machine presses usually in one plane of motion and it takes out all of the stabiliser muscles involved in keeping a good bar path and movement pattern. I reckon for a short time-span you'd see similar gains but over a long enough time you would start to see some imbalances or weaknesses the machine press covers for. You can do both but I wouldn't substitute it.

 

[AspiringMogger]

3D delts, downward turned nipples. The two biggest tell-tale signs of someone not being natty.

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

thanks btw

No problem. I think if I am understanding you are a beginner. I know from a learning standpoint the machines are probably smoother to start with and understand. But imo it is worth learning and building up the free weight movements it will make you stronger and more athletic in the long run

 

[Funnyunenjoyer1]

This is personal opinion but I would always prioritize a free weight movement over a machine. Machine presses usually in one plane of motion and it takes out all of the stabiliser muscles involved in keeping a good bar path and movement pattern. I reckon for a short time-span you'd see similar gains but over a long enough time you would start to see some imbalances or weaknesses the machine press covers for. You can do both but I wouldn't substitute it.

since you are a gymcel, I have a question, I have some muscle, but my main problem is my belly fat, theres no fat ANYWHERE else but belly and it only protrudes forwards not in any other dimension, and yes it's a little amount especially after waking up not fed but as I eat I become super bloated and it becomes really obvious.

I can't tell if it's really a fat or bloat from foods that I eat through the day, I mostly try to eat protein and meats, the Question I have to you is do I stick with cardio to cut down or do I bulk up or maintain

 

[Rawprimalooks]

No

 

[slavicpsycho]

Obviously

 

[einzigartig]

This is personal opinion but I would always prioritize a free weight movement over a machine. Machine presses usually in one plane of motion and it takes out all of the stabiliser muscles involved in keeping a good bar path and movement pattern. I reckon for a short time-span you'd see similar gains but over a long enough time you would start to see some imbalances or weaknesses the machine press covers for. You can do both but I wouldn't substitute it.

didnt know that about the long term part

 

[sickdawgie]

can you really grow your shoulders that much through working out or he just grow up

 

[einzigartig]

No problem. I think if I am understanding you are a beginner. I know from a learning standpoint the machines are probably smoother to start with and understand. But imo it is worth learning and building up the free weight movements it will make you stronger and more athletic in the long run

not a beginner per se but still over thinking the optimal exercises for shoulder

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

since you are a gymcel, I have a question, I have some muscle, but my main problem is my belly fat, theres no fat ANYWHERE else but belly and it only protrudes forwards not in any other dimension, and yes it's a little amount especially after waking up not fed but as I eat I become super bloated and it becomes really obvious.

I can't tell if it's really a fat or bloat from foods that I eat through the day, I mostly try to eat protein and meats, the Question I have to you is do I stick with cardio to cut down or do I bulk up or maintain

Where your fat is distributed is by and large genetic. I have a similar problem mostly storing fat around my midsection and hips when I bulk up too much, truth be told the only long term solution to that would be getting liposuction there’s a user here who had stubborn fat in the region and had very good success.

I would need to know more about your weight height and bodyfat% but focus on building up muscle on a moderate bull ~400 calories over maintenance and train your abs around 3-4x per week. Building up muscle in the midsection will contrast it to any fat you have stored there making it look leaner in comparison. And then eventually cut down.

 

[User28823]

natty

 

[Funnyunenjoyer1]

Where your fat is distributed is by and large genetic. I have a similar problem mostly storing fat around my midsection and hips when I bulk up too much, truth be told the only long term solution to that would be getting liposuction there’s a user here who had stubborn fat in the region and had very good success.

I would need to know more about your weight height and bodyfat% but focus on building up muscle on a moderate bull ~400 calories over maintenance and train your abs around 3-4x per week. Building up muscle in the midsection will contrast it to any fat you have stored there making it look leaner in comparison. And then eventually cut down.

weight I don't know, Last time I checked was before I was gymceling and it said 135Pounds 5'10, but I think I've gained quite a bit of muscle so I could be maybe 140-145 at 5'10? but I'm overall skinny

I also train my abs almost everytime I go to the gym and I do full body exercises every time I go to the gym, ( I go 2 days 1 day off routine so about 5 times per week)

The reason I want to get rid of this belly fat shit is because it supports aromatase process which will close my growth plates earlier, that's why you see fat people usually shorter than others.

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

weight I don't know, Last time I checked was before I was gymceling and it said 135Pounds 5'10, but I think I've gained quite a bit of muscle so I could be maybe 140-145 at 5'10? but I'm overall skinny

I also train my abs almost everytime I go to the gym and I do full body exercises every time I go to the gym, ( I go 2 days 1 day off routine so about 5 times per week)

The reason I want to get rid of this belly fat shit is because it supports aromatase process which will close my growth plates earlier, that's why you see fat people usually shorter than others.

Age?
If you wanted to stop aromatising for growth purposes I would just go for aromatase inhibitors honestly at 140-145 the overall fat you are holding onto is going to make a marginal difference at best.

 

[Funnyunenjoyer1]

Age?
If you wanted to stop aromatising for growth purposes I would just go for aromatase inhibitors honestly at 140-145 the overall fat you are holding onto is going to make a marginal difference at best.

age 17 yea, but the fat in stomach is the main killer of IGF1 and Testosterone, I'm trying to get my hands on aromasin though.

btw I look way less fat than the guy in the video I just sent (before transformation) because ha has fat in his love handles, chest, and little bit in arms but I only have fat on my lower belly and it doesn't even look like "fat" idk how to explain it not in my midsetion and nowhere else.

do you think I should do a lot of cardio? my main goal is litearlly to burn that fat off rn, but I also worry I'm going to lose some muscle

 

[Funnyunenjoyer1]

tbh I have anterior Pelvic tilt too, which might be causing this

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

age 17 yea, but the fat in stomach is the main killer of IGF1 and Testosterone, I'm trying to get my hands on aromasin though.

btw I look way less fat than the guy in the video I just sent (before transformation) because ha has fat in his love handles, chest, and little bit in arms but I only have fat on my lower belly not in my midsetion and nowhere else.

do you think I should do a lot of cardio? my main goal is litearlly to burn that fat off rn, but I also worry I'm going to lose some muscle

Cardio wasting muscle is a meme that only happens if you are an excessive distance runner and aren't eating enough protein+ calories. And at age 17 yea you need an AI to do the trick of preventing growth plate closure around a 40-50% reducing in E2 levels if I remember correctly for that which is not doable by fat loss alone.

 

[Funnyunenjoyer1]

Cardio wasting muscle is a meme that only happens if you are an excessive distance runner and aren't eating enough protein+ calories. And at age 17 yea you need an AI to do the trick of preventing growth plate closure around a 40-50% reducing in E2 levels if I remember correctly for that which is not doable by fat loss alone.

How much calories should I aim for on cardio? also is cycling cardio better than running on treadmil?

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

How much calories should I aim for on cardio? also is cycling cardio better than running one?

Cycling is easier on the joints but either is good, whatever allows you to maintain a pace where keeping breath is doable but difficult is ideal. 30 or so minutes would be around 180-250 cals at your weight depending on pace.

 

[Funnyunenjoyer1]

Cycling is easier on the joints but either is good, whatever allows you to maintain a pace where keeping breath is doable but difficult is ideal. 30 or so minutes would be around 180-250 cals at your weight depending on pace.

thank you so much bhai btw what's your stats? height weight bodyfat%

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

thank you so much bhai btw what's your stats? height weight bodyfat%

178.5 cm weight is 81 kgs I believe thats close to 180lbs. Bodyfat is a hard estimate maybe like 17-18%

 

[Funnyunenjoyer1]

178.5 cm weight is 81 kgs I believe thats close to 180lbs. Bodyfat is a hard estimate maybe like 17-18%

have you posted your physique before? also how do you shouldermaxx? like how to get 3D delts I'm currently trying to do cable lat raises that's propobly the best one right?

I try to do the dumbbell ones, but I struggle with technique so I just do machine overhead, free barbell overhead press and cable lat raises

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

have you posted your physique before? also how do you shouldermaxx? like how to get 3D delts I'm currently trying to do cable lat raises that's propobly the best one right?

I try to do the dumbbell ones, but I struggle with technique so I just do machine overhead, free barbell overhead press and cable lat raises

Don’t have many pics but I’ll post this here and delete soon.

I quite like cable raises, raise them around knee height or below stand out and stretch across the body. You also need rear self work which I do too. Facepulls and rows for that work them into your back movements

 

[Funnyunenjoyer1]

Don’t have many pics but I’ll post this here and delete soon.
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I quite like cable raises, raise them around knee height or below stand out and stretch across the body. You also need rear self work which I do too. Facepulls and rows for that work them into your back movements

thanks for the advice btw Impressive physique bro damn shoulders and arms look big, do you use creatine or protein powder?

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

thanks for the advice btw Impressive physique bro damn shoulders and arms look big, do you use creatine or protein powder?

Thanks man no problem. Creatine no, it become very expensive in my country around lockdown I remember my senior year in highschool they were $13 for a 500 gram tub now that shit is $40 I just don't buy it because of price cant be fucked paying that much nothing wrong with it though I reckon its a little overrated but just my opinion. Yes I take protein powder 1xa day sometimes 2x, the brand hardly matters, whey concentrate will do no need for pricey crap.

 

[Funnyunenjoyer1]

Thanks man no problem. Creatine no, it become very expensive in my country around lockdown I remember my senior year in highschool they were $13 for a 500 gram tub now that shit is $40 I just don't buy it because of price cant be fucked paying that much nothing wrong with it though I reckon its a little overrated but just my opinion. Yes I take protein powder 1xa day sometimes 2x, the brand hardly matters, whey concentrate will do no need for pricey crap.

Protein Power is quite pricey for me too, like 60$ if you want cheapest one, also hitting my bodyweight protein is kinda hard for me because I don't have time to cook chicken all the time at home, I normally just eat eggs maybe 5 in the morning with bacon, maybe chicken and veggies on lunch and maybe some meat dumplings or goyslop like mcdonalds 2 mcdouble's with bacon for evening ( not accounting for fruits )

however this doesn't even come close to 140g of protein, Idk how people do it it's very hard for me.

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

Protein Power is quite pricey for me too, like 60$ if you want cheapest one, also hitting my bodyweight protein is kinda hard for me because I don't have time to cook chicken all the time at home, I normally just eat eggs maybe 5 in the morning with bacon, maybe chicken and veggies on lunch and maybe some meat dumplings or goyslop like mcdonalds 2 mcdouble's with bacon for evening ( not accounting for fruits )

however this doesn't even come close to 140g of protein, Idk how people do it it's very hard for me.

140g is quite a lot. Most data converges that going over 1.6g/kg of protein is unnecessary for you thats about 105 grams. Consider buying online in bulk or just stocking up when they are on sale.

 

[JustBeConfidentBruh]

Cuz no way right? he has foid gaze chad body now, ( his Chest genetics ain't it but overall bodyshape is foid gaze )

over with this eye are, hollly shit makes him look like a deer

 

[Funnyunenjoyer1]

140g is quite a lot. Most data converges that going over 1.6g/kg of protein is unnecessary for you thats about 105 grams. Consider buying online in bulk or just stocking up when they are on sale.

yeah but how do people even hit their daily protein without protein powder? not to mention the fact that apparently your body can't absorb more than 40g per sitting which makes it even harder

 

[ShowerMaxxing]

how did he gigabuff his shoulders so much that his waist look super small now?

Just puberty and angle/lighting fraud. I’ve seen guys from my school do the same, look like Laid online but irl 0 muscle twinks

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

yeah but how do people even hit their daily protein without protein powder? not to mention the fact that apparently your body can't absorb more than 40g per sitting which makes it even harder

An outdated myth not based on any kind of data I believe people mostly site 30 grams as the upper limit but its not based on anything. Luc Van Loon is probably the most prominent researcher in dietary protein in academics right now and his recent study found that even at intakes >100g in one sitting yielded anabolic response, a dose response relationship and did not show an upper limit or plateau.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10772463/

The belief that the anabolic response to feeding during postexercise recovery is transient and has an upper limit and that excess amino acids are being oxidized lacks scientific proof. We show that the ingestion of 100 g protein results in a greater and more prolonged (>12 h) anabolic response when compared to the ingestion of 25 g protein. These findings demonstrate that the magnitude and duration of the anabolic response to protein ingestion is not restricted and has previously been underestimated in vivo in humans.

 

[Imretarded?]

no gym for these cuck T50 eyes

 

[Imretarded?]

 

[edodalic29]

he looks ethnic so hard to believe natty cause they usually have shit genes

He looks european white not necessarily ethnic

 

[einzigartig]

He looks european white not necessarily ethnic

his orbitals beg to differ jfl