Is This the Ultimate Exam Stack? (Semax/Selank/Bromantane)

[4ever]

Looking for nootropics to help with 2 tasks:

1. Writing my thesis
2. Studying ~5 months for a huge exam (priority)

To study for the exam I need: endurance, focus, memory.

Stack idea so far:
Semax (baseline), Selank (stress), Bromantane (cycled).

Also considering RC Vyvanse alternatives like 2-FMA, plus caffeine/Modafinil rotation.

Reading about Unifiram + Racetams (Oxiracetam/Pramiracetam for memory?).

Risk to reward is key for me. Don’t want to nuke long-term health.

Any better suggestions or stacks?

 

[Linus1888]

add aderall if you need it

 

[4ever]

add aderall if you need it

Dont have a source, not really prescribed in the EU, expensive compared to RCs.

 

[4ever]

Tagging people who might be knowledgeable:

@enchanted_elixir @menas @Keylozz @Seth Walsh

 

[asdvek]

There is one thing that on it's own would do more effect than all of those

 

[4ever]

There is one thing that on it's own would do more effect than all of those

I'll bite

 

[asdvek]

I'll bite

adderall

 

[Cicciosudmaxxer]

adderall

Real shit
One adderall would have me studying like a mf
Just don’t jerk off on it or you’ll be stuck doing it for hours

 

[4ever]

adderall

Not available to me. I'd need a research chemical amphetamine, as I said in the post.

 

[Tylermax]

Nigga the only stack you need is chatgpt. Stop wasting your money on stupid shit

 

[clearpillcel]

hmm nice i was thinking of stacking semax and oxiracetam, if you dont mind pinning then noopept with semax is better, but also use either alpha-gpc or l-theanine

 

[Seth Walsh]

Looking for nootropics to help with 2 tasks:

1. Writing my thesis
2. Studying ~5 months for a huge exam (priority)

To study for the exam I need: endurance, focus, memory.

Stack idea so far:
Semax (baseline), Selank (stress), Bromantane (cycled).

Also considering RC Vyvanse alternatives like 2-FMA, plus caffeine/Modafinil rotation.

Reading about Unifiram + Racetams (Oxiracetam/Pramiracetam for memory?).

Risk to reward is key for me. Don’t want to nuke long-term health.

Any better suggestions or stacks?

1, SMASH ritalin and concerta all the way through

2. Eliminate distractions and study for the same amount of time every day, with 1 or 2 days break a week (treat it like a full time job). No need for any drugs, just discipline, eat better foods, sleep enough, exercise enough, and prioritize the studying (I was, and still am one of the shittest studiers ever. So I'm not the best to ask). But you get better at anything with focused routine, discipline, consistency.

for 2: maybe work back on how why you need to ace the exam. have your study materials cover everything that can possibly show up. always do practice tests etc (again idrk, I am a dogshit studier)

 

[aids]

Just speak to a Psych and get a short-acting amphetamine prescribed.
Then use that + donepezil, Alpha GPC, Methylene Blue, other peptides for neurogenesis (even nasally administered BPC-157).

 

[Seth Walsh]

Bromantane

Bromantane is more for getting shit done. It's better for work, lifting, sports etc. Not so much if you want to just zone in one studying or writing a thesis. It could help, but marginally. Honestly ChatGPT probably helps a lot with studying and writing disseratations ngl. I was already finished all that stuff before AI became commercial.

 

[4ever]

1, SMASH ritalin and concerta all the way through

2. Eliminate distractions and study for the same amount of time every day, with 1 or 2 days break a week (treat it like a full time job). No need for any drugs, just discipline, eat better foods, sleep enough, exercise enough, and prioritize the studying (I was, and still am one of the shittest studiers ever. So I'm not the best to ask). But you get better at anything with focused routine, discipline, consistency.

for 2: maybe work back on how why you need to ace the exam. have your study materials cover everything that can possibly show up. always do practice tests etc (again idrk, I am a dogshit studier)

Regarding 2:

It's just a very stupid plan that I have to follow. One day might take ~8h of studying and it entails texts I have to read and memorize as well as active recall.

From friends who are going through this rn, you lose motivation pretty quickly and it can become depressing.

That's why I thought something like Semax could be useful.
If I can't get real ADHD meds, what are your thoughts on amphetamine derivatives like 2fma?

 

[4ever]

Just speak to a Psych and get a short-acting amphetamine prescribed.
Then use that + donepezil, Alpha GPC, Methylene Blue, other peptides for neurogenesis (even nasally administered BPC-157).

1, SMASH ritalin and concerta all the way through

2. Eliminate distractions and study for the same amount of time every day, with 1 or 2 days break a week (treat it like a full time job). No need for any drugs, just discipline, eat better foods, sleep enough, exercise enough, and prioritize the studying (I was, and still am one of the shittest studiers ever. So I'm not the best to ask). But you get better at anything with focused routine, discipline, consistency.

for 2: maybe work back on how why you need to ace the exam. have your study materials cover everything that can possibly show up. always do practice tests etc (again idrk, I am a dogshit studier)

Also since I will practice good habits and patterns and deal with semi complex stuff daily, I thought I might benefit from inducing extra neurogenesis/ plasticity during that time period.

 

[4ever]

Nigga the only stack you need is chatgpt. Stop wasting your money on stupid shit

CAnt take chatgpt into an exam.

 

[Seth Walsh]

Regarding 2:

It's just a very stupid plan that I have to follow. One day might take ~8h of studying and it entails texts I have to read and memorize as well as active recall.

From friends who are going through this rn, you lose motivation pretty quickly and it can become depressing.

That's why I thought something like Semax could be useful.
If I can't get real ADHD meds, what are your thoughts on amphetamine derivatives like 2fma?

Nah.

If you find it really hard to study just get on high dose concerta XR and do 2hrs in the morning of study, consistently 5 days a week for the full 5 months. 8hrs is brutal and way less focused. Increasing your exercise/activity, and getting better sleep, then slotting your study block(s) into each day is probably what works. And concerta XR is the one thing that'll keep you perma locked in.

Everything else is bs.. Semax, 2fma, bromantane etc... Just get Concerta XR

 

[4ever]

Bromantane is more for getting shit done. It's better for work, lifting, sports etc. Not so much if you want to just zone in one studying or writing a thesis. It could help, but marginally. Honestly ChatGPT probably helps a lot with studying and writing disseratations ngl. I was already finished all that stuff before AI became commercial.

I already use chatgpt for ideas / structure. An other usecase for chatgpt: if you want to implement am image for your thesis to don't have the rights for, you can ask gpt to simplify it. That will probably help to bypass ownership / source issues.

 

[Seth Walsh]

CAnt take chatgpt into an exam.

You can use study mode on ChatGPT and upload your study material to it if you're a recursive learner. Maybe balance that with practice exams. Either way, it's best to study at the same time every day. Just like gym sessions. Get it done and keep it fresh and consistent.

A nice side effect of psychostims is that you WILL think about the stuff you've learned even after you finish studying. The thought loops will replay in your mind, and you'll start thinking about ways to answer different exam questions even when you're not "actively" studying.

Actively studying 8hrs a day may work for some people, but for a lot, it's just performance theatre and a waste of time. Lock in for 10-15hrs a week max, consistently 5 days a week and you should be fine for the exam.

 

[4ever]

Nah.

If you find it really hard to study just get on high dose concerta XR and do 2hrs in the morning of study, consistently 5 days a week for the full 5 months. 8hrs is brutal and way less focused. Increasing your exercise/activity, and getting better sleep, then slotting your study block(s) into each day is probably what works. And concerta XR is the one thing that'll keep you perma locked in.

Everything else is bs.. Semax, 2fma, bromantane etc... Just get Concerta XR

The real plan is 100 days but some of these days are more like 10hours realistically. That's why I take 2 months as a buffer.

 

[Seth Walsh]

I already use chatgpt for ideas / structure. An other usecase for chatgpt: if you want to implement am image for your thesis to don't have the rights for, you can ask gpt to simplify it. That will probably help to bypass ownership / source issues.

What do you mean?

 

[Seth Walsh]

I thought I might benefit from inducing extra neurogenesis/ plasticity during that time period.

Sleep diet and exercise will help the most. Stay disciplined.

 

[4ever]

What do you mean?

In doctoral thesis you aren't allowed to use pictures that you don't hold the copyright to without direct permission from the creator. It can be pretty hard to find the creator of a graph or image you found somewhere on the internet.
You can get around that difficulty by asking a LLM to modify/ simplify that picture. That way it differs so much from the original, that you don't have to ask anyone for permission to use it anymore.

 

[kingofkings]

Each year at university I followed the exact same pattern for exams with incredible success - do literally fuck all for most of the year and then in the final 4 weeks before the exams study like an absolute maniac. Those 4 weeks were the most awful imaginable hell because literally all I did was study, eat and sleep. 0 social media. 0 leaving the house. 0 video games. 0 using my phone apart from maybe 3 or 4 brief conversations per week.

The first 3 or 4 days always felt impossible and I wanted to die. Even a couple of hours into studying I felt groggy, lethargic and would be yawning out of pure boredom with my overwhelmed lazy brain unable to cope with rigors of intense studying.

However, by the end of the first week those feelings start to fade. By week 2 you notice major differences. By week 3, you can study 12 hours with just breaks for eating. By week 4 you're locked the fuck in. I could close my eyes and literally mentally go through each page of my notes in my mind. There is something about just studying non-stop that is like steroids for your mind. You only get these effects if you do it obsessively, 6 hours a day isn't enough.

I aced all my exams. Friends were always shocked because I'd miss most classes and sometimes didn't even bother submitting assignments.

I know, you're asking for supplements and what not. But for me, the best thing always was just ridiculous discipline and very good sleep. Sleep and insane work ethic beats every supplement out there. I'd be in bed 9.30pm every night. I am not born with a work ethic I am naturally very very lazy but if you just push through the first week your brain adapts massively.

 

[Keylozz]

- Consider adding a Racetam and remove the Selank, I would add Aniracetam since you are looking for anxiolytic effect
- Add a strong stimulant like Modafinil (since its half life its 16h and you are looking to study 8h/day) but add Nicotine before a session to kick in (Amphetamine derivatives would be phenomenal, but potential neurotoxicity)
- Consider a Neurogenesis Substance for Long Term, but Semax its ok for that, Cerebrolysin Cycles would be phenomenal

Also best thing is take everything first in the morning before you do ANYTHING and start studying before you do nothing, get a 4-5h session then 2-3h for Active Recall, Feynman or just studying again

 

[4ever]

- Consider adding a Racetam and remove the Selank, I would add Aniracetam since you are looking for anxiolytic effect
- Add a strong stimulant like Modafinil (since its half life its 16h and you are looking to study 8h/day) but add Nicotine before a session to kick in (Amphetamine derivatives would be phenomenal, but potential neurotoxicity)
- Consider a Neurogenesis Substance for Long Term, but Semax its ok for that, Cerebrolysin Cycles would be phenomenal

Also best thing is take everything first in the morning before you do ANYTHING and start studying before you do nothing, get a 4-5h session then 2-3h for Active Recall, Feynman or just studying again

Thanks for the response.

Since writing this post I've done a bit more research, this page looks interesting

What I learned gathering thousands of nootropic ratings

Where I analyse the nootropic ratings I gathered through my recommender system.

troof.blog

I'd categorize the substances in something for

1) neurogenesis/ -plasticity (Semax / Cerebrolysin)

2) memory ((phenyl)piracetem, prl-8-53)

3) stimulant to cycle (caffeine, theanine, amphetamines (maybe 2fma?), Modafinil, bromantane - how do you like that one?)


Yes, studying first for 4-5 hours and then taking a break would be the plan. Afterwards 2-3 hours of active recall of the info of the previous day.

 

[4ever]

- Consider adding a Racetam and remove the Selank, I would add Aniracetam since you are looking for anxiolytic effect
- Add a strong stimulant like Modafinil (since its half life its 16h and you are looking to study 8h/day) but add Nicotine before a session to kick in (Amphetamine derivatives would be phenomenal, but potential neurotoxicity)
- Consider a Neurogenesis Substance for Long Term, but Semax its ok for that, Cerebrolysin Cycles would be phenomenal

Also best thing is take everything first in the morning before you do ANYTHING and start studying before you do nothing, get a 4-5h session then 2-3h for Active Recall, Feynman or just studying again

Thanks for the response.

Since writing this post I've done a bit more research, this page looks interesting

What I learned gathering thousands of nootropic ratings

Where I analyse the nootropic ratings I gathered through my recommender system.

troof.blog

I'd categorize the substances in something for

1) neurogenesis/ -plasticity (Semax / Cerebrolysin)

2) memory ((phenyl)piracetem, prl-8-53)

3) stimulant to cycle (caffeine, theanine, amphetamines (maybe 2fma?), Modafinil, bromantane - how do you like that one?)


Yes, studying first for 4-5 hours and then taking a break would be the plan. Afterwards 2-3 hours of active recall of the info of the previous day.

Add unifiram to the memory section.

Now the job is to find the best options for each category. Appreciate your suggestions and input.

 

[Keylozz]

Thanks for the response.

Since writing this post I've done a bit more research, this page looks interesting

What I learned gathering thousands of nootropic ratings

Where I analyse the nootropic ratings I gathered through my recommender system.

troof.blog

I'd categorize the substances in something for

1) neurogenesis/ -plasticity (Semax / Cerebrolysin)

2) memory ((phenyl)piracetem, prl-8-53)

3) stimulant to cycle (caffeine, theanine, amphetamines (maybe 2fma?), Modafinil, bromantane - how do you like that one?)


Yes, studying first for 4-5 hours and then taking a break would be the plan. Afterwards 2-3 hours of active recall of the info of the previous day.

Yes PRL-8-53 is solid for memory its top 1 I think on a rating list for memory (based on anecdotal evidence), also Phenylpiracetam is the most potent Racetam and works well for memory but it is a bit stimulant, its also on the list top 2 for memory

I haven't tried L-Theanine and Bromantane, I would stick to Modafinil, Caffeine and Nicotine, and if you have access to amphetamines then also amphetamines.

 

[buddy]

what?? you dont need all of these unresearched sketchy supplements just take creatine!

 

[NudeSelfiesTilliDie]

Just meditate bro

 

[gribsufer1]

Just meditate bro

This and megadosing b vitamins

 

[enchanted_elixir]

My advice:

Excellent diet, sleep and exercise.
Remove toxins wherever possible.
Prioritize mental health as well (meditation, socializing, do things that make you happy (not pleasured), use phone only when necessary)
Ensure all micronutrients needs are met

Semax, Adderall, PRL-8-53.
A very effective time management system and studying plan that goes ~5 months out. Ensures you're well prepared.

And most importantly, be focused, and be efficient with your time. Don't be satisfied with your understanding until it's so crystal clear you know the knowledge on the test as well as you know the grammar to your mother tongue. No matter how long it takes you, no matter how much of you thinking needs to be changed or be viewed with a bird's eye view, no matter what, make sure you are never satisfied with your understanding until you master it. Be perspicacious. Be indefatigable.

 

[Ultimate Subhuman™]

Just hop of Addys

 

[tritanium]

what is this stuff going to do to my brain. i have exams coming up lmao

 

[mogtivism]

Real shit
One adderall would have me studying like a mf
Just don’t jerk off on it or you’ll be stuck doing it for hours

Is this fr?

 

[Lars2]

Real shit
One adderall would have me studying like a mf
Just don’t jerk off on it or you’ll be stuck doing it for hours

real talk.

 

[Cicciosudmaxxer]

Is this fr?

Absolutely
I’ve almost failed exams bc I took 30 millies and my brain would just be lust

 

[johnsonmaxxer]

phenylpiracetam is a great stimulant but the tolerance builds very quickly so try to find a way to cycle it appropriately. Modafinil also has stimulating effects. Supplement alpha-gpc for choline. Long term stimulant use is generally pretty difficult though.

 

[thecaste]

Each year at university I followed the exact same pattern for exams with incredible success - do literally fuck all for most of the year and then in the final 4 weeks before the exams study like an absolute maniac. Those 4 weeks were the most awful imaginable hell because literally all I did was study, eat and sleep. 0 social media. 0 leaving the house. 0 video games. 0 using my phone apart from maybe 3 or 4 brief conversations per week.

The first 3 or 4 days always felt impossible and I wanted to die. Even a couple of hours into studying I felt groggy, lethargic and would be yawning out of pure boredom with my overwhelmed lazy brain unable to cope with rigors of intense studying.

However, by the end of the first week those feelings start to fade. By week 2 you notice major differences. By week 3, you can study 12 hours with just breaks for eating. By week 4 you're locked the fuck in. I could close my eyes and literally mentally go through each page of my notes in my mind. There is something about just studying non-stop that is like steroids for your mind. You only get these effects if you do it obsessively, 6 hours a day isn't enough.

I aced all my exams. Friends were always shocked because I'd miss most classes and sometimes didn't even bother submitting assignments.

I know, you're asking for supplements and what not. But for me, the best thing always was just ridiculous discipline and very good sleep. Sleep and insane work ethic beats every supplement out there. I'd be in bed 9.30pm every night. I am not born with a work ethic I am naturally very very lazy but if you just push through the first week your brain adapts massively.

what are you studying? it should not be possible to do nothing the whole year and pass your exams with "incredible success" after 1 month of studying. either shit uni or shit major ngl

 

[kingofkings]

what are you studying? it should not be possible to do nothing the whole year and pass your exams with "incredible success" after 1 month of studying. either shit uni or shit major ngl

Haha. It was math at one of the top unis in the world.

I guess an obvious caveat I should add is, your baseline memory and natural talent for the subject will dictate how much hardcore studying time you need. OP says he has 5 months to study anyway so he has plenty of leeway.

 

[thecaste]

Haha. It was math at one of the top unis in the world.

I guess an obvious caveat I should add is, your baseline memory and natural talent for the subject will dictate how much hardcore studying time you need. OP says he has 5 months to study anyway so he has plenty of leeway.

nice, mirin. I guess maths is good in that regard as you don't need to study as much when you already have a natural talent in the subject. I would say in shit like law or medicine you will still have to study like a maniac even if you are gifted.

 

[Azim]

Not available to me. I'd need a research chemical amphetamine, as I said in the post.

it is available to u just go find some kid with adhd who has a script lol

 

[Dot1]

Real shit
One adderall would have me studying like a mf
Just don’t jerk off on it or you’ll be stuck doing it for hours

bro what have u been up to

 

[Cicciosudmaxxer]

bro what have u been up to

Shit you wouldn’t believe
Once went on a gooning spree for hours
Shit fucked me up

 

[arabcell]

Nah.

If you find it really hard to study just get on high dose concerta XR and do 2hrs in the morning of study, consistently 5 days a week for the full 5 months. 8hrs is brutal and way less focused. Increasing your exercise/activity, and getting better sleep, then slotting your study block(s) into each day is probably what works. And concerta XR is the one thing that'll keep you perma locked in.

Everything else is bs.. Semax, 2fma, bromantane etc... Just get Concerta XR

where to get concerta XR? and do you think it would be bad for a 17 year old

 

[gigacumster3000]

what's your current routine like? how long have you been studying already, and what kind of material are you focusing on? that might help narrow down the best approach for you