Is water stored in muscle or fat tissue in the face?

[Deleted member 5927]

If you have water retention in your face, where exactly is it stored? Google couldn’t find me the answer so I’m just really hoping one of you knows.

Like would losing fat help with facial water retention? It’s one of my main looksminns which is why I care so much @Bewusst for my medical questions lmao

 

[Deleted member 5927]

@16tyo do you know this?

 

[Bewusst]

Intra- and extracellularly. In the muscles, every gram of glycogen is stored with at least 3 g of water. Consequently, consuming more carbohydrates leads to increased water retention in muscles but not subcutaneously. The result is just more muscle fullness.

Increasing your sodium intake leads to increased water and sodium retention and decreased urinary water excretion until renal sodium excretion matches intake. However, if your potassium is too low, your body can't flush out the excess sodium because further potassium would be lost in the process. Hence your body has to hold on to the sodium (and water, as water follows sodium) to preserve potassium levels. On top of that, eating lots of salt makes you drink more but not pee more as your kidneys reabsorb water to dilute the extra sodium in your body. That's part of why excess sodium in conjunction with too little potassium makes you bloated, especially if you suddenly ingest more salt than usual.

 

[Deleted member 7076]

Intra- and extracellularly. In the muscles, every gram of glycogen is stored with at least 3 g of water. Consequently, consuming more carbohydrates leads to increased water retention in muscles but not subcutaneously. The result is just more muscle fullness.

Increasing your sodium intake leads to increased water and sodium retention and decreased urinary water excretion until renal sodium excretion matches intake. However, if your potassium is too low, your body can't flush out the excess sodium because further potassium would be lost in the process. Hence your body has to hold on to the sodium (and water, as water follows sodium) to preserve potassium levels. On top of that, eating lots of salt makes you drink more but not pee more as your kidneys reabsorb water to dilute the extra sodium in your body. That's part of why excess sodium in conjunction with too little potassium makes you bloated, especially if you suddenly ingest more salt than usual.

when you have a high potassium intake, does the body try to lose BOTH potassium and sodium?

so if you have high potassium and low sodium after a meal you would have slightly lower potassium and very low sodium after it balances things out? or is this just bioscience

 

[nvck_pilled]

water is stored in the balls

 

[Deleted member 5927]

Intra- and extracellularly. In the muscles, every gram of glycogen is stored with at least 3 g of water. Consequently, consuming more carbohydrates leads to increased water retention in muscles but not subcutaneously. The result is just more muscle fullness.

Increasing your sodium intake leads to increased water and sodium retention and decreased urinary water excretion until renal sodium excretion matches intake. However, if your potassium is too low, your body can't flush out the excess sodium because further potassium would be lost in the process. Hence your body has to hold on to the sodium (and water, as water follows sodium) to preserve potassium levels. On top of that, eating lots of salt makes you drink more but not pee more as your kidneys reabsorb water to dilute the extra sodium in your body. That's part of why excess sodium in conjunction with too little potassium makes you bloated, especially if you suddenly ingest more salt than usual.

interesting as fuck. You didn’t seem to mention anything about fat storage though. So is any water stored at all in fat, or is it entirely based on glycogen in the muscle tissues? I have trouble understanding this.

 

[Bewusst]

when you have a high potassium intake, does the body try to lose BOTH potassium and sodium?

so if you have high potassium and low sodium after a meal you would have slightly lower potassium and very low sodium after it balances things out. or is this just bioscience

Your kidneys would adjust by releasing aldosterone from the adrenals, which increases reabsorption of sodium and water and increases excretion of potassium

 

[Deleted member 5927]

Your kidneys would adjust by releasing aldosterone from the adrenals, which increases reabsorption of sodium and water and increases excretion of potassium

So basically your body wants to maintain a balance of salt for some reason. This is why you keep saying you can’t just flood it with potassium because your body will fight that.
So really the only thing we can do is maintain an even balance of salt and potassium in their respective ratios, is this correct? And what is the outcome of this, that the body can successfully rid itself of both sodium and potassium?

 

[Deleted member 7076]

Your kidneys would adjust by releasing aldosterone from the adrenals, which increases reabsorption of sodium and water and increases excretion of potassium

faurkkk why does sodium gotta exist

 

[Deleted member 5927]

faurkkk why does sodium gotta exist

Literally I fucking hate the water in my face makes me look so shit

 

[Deleted member 7076]

i heard that keeping sodium intake the same everyday is good for water retention so id assume the same for potassium intake too

bruh im too lazy to properly research tho tbh jfl

 

[Bewusst]

interesting as fuck. You didn’t seem to mention anything about fat storage though. So is any water stored at all in fat, or is it entirely based on glycogen in the muscle tissues? I have trouble understanding this.

Your body retains fluid intra- (inside of cells) and extracellularly (outside, surrounding cells and in blood plasma and lymph). About two thirds of the body's total water content is intracellular.

Fat cells barely store any water, only 2-6% intracellularly. The remaining 14-16% are extracellular (surrounding the fat cells). I must admit though, I had to look that up.

 

[Deleted member 7076]

About two thirds of the body's total water content is intracellular.

explains why i get insane hollow cheeks if i purposely dehydrate myself i guess

so the potassium sodium stuff is only for extracellular water, right?

 

[karbo]

Intra- and extracellularly. In the muscles, every gram of glycogen is stored with at least 3 g of water. Consequently, consuming more carbohydrates leads to increased water retention in muscles but not subcutaneously. The result is just more muscle fullness.

Increasing your sodium intake leads to increased water and sodium retention and decreased urinary water excretion until renal sodium excretion matches intake. However, if your potassium is too low, your body can't flush out the excess sodium because further potassium would be lost in the process. Hence your body has to hold on to the sodium (and water, as water follows sodium) to preserve potassium levels. On top of that, eating lots of salt makes you drink more but not pee more as your kidneys reabsorb water to dilute the extra sodium in your body. That's part of why excess sodium in conjunction with too little potassium makes you bloated, especially if you suddenly ingest more salt than usual.

you didnt answer the question

 

[Bewusst]

So basically your body wants to maintain a balance of salt for some reason. This is why you keep saying you can’t just flood it with potassium because your body will fight that.
So really the only thing we can do is maintain an even balance of salt and potassium in their respective ratios, is this correct? And what is the outcome of this, that the body can successfully rid itself of both sodium and potassium?

Of course. Your body is constantly trying to maintain homeostasis. If it wouldn't, you would die. Both excess and deficiency of any of the four electrolytes in the blood can be fatal so your body must maintain a balance.

The best thing to do is having an adequate - not excessive - intake of all electrolytes. That's why I always said that avoiding salt isn't the answer; instead provide your body with enough potassium so that your body's regulatory mechanisms can function optimally. There's no need to manipulate the body, it has amazing self-regulating capabilities if you provide it with the things it needs. Dehydration methods and diuretics as they're used in bodybuilding before competitions may work in the short term but in the long term, you just damage your health.

 

[Bewusst]

faurkkk why does sodium gotta exist

because without it, you wouldn't exist

 

[Deleted member 7076]

Fat cells barely store any water, only 2-6% intracellularly. The remaining 14-16% are extracellular

what are the percentages for muscle water storage for intra and extracellularyly in comparison?

 

[Bewusst]

i heard that keeping sodium intake the same everyday is good for water retention so id assume the same for potassium intake too

bruh im too lazy to properly research tho tbh jfl

Keeping it on a certain level definitely helps because the kidneys need a few days to fully adjust to considerable changes in electrolyte (especially sodium) intake

 

[antiantifa]

If you have water retention in your face, where exactly is it stored? Google couldn’t find me the answer so I’m just really hoping one of you knows.

Like would losing fat help with facial water retention? It’s one of my main looksminns which is why I care so much @Bewusst for my medical questions lmao

There's not much water in the face, but it's stored alongside with fat. Facial bloat is mostly facial fat and yes even one cheat meal can make a huge difference in facial fat as there's only about 5g of fat in the face.

 

[antiantifa]

Your body retains fluid intra- (inside of cells) and extracellularly (outside, surrounding cells and in blood plasma and lymph). About two thirds of the body's total water content is intracellular.

Fat cells barely store any water, only 2-6% intracellularly. The remaining 14-16% are extracellular (surrounding the fat cells). I must admit though, I had to look that up.

Not fully accurate.

"Fat and water contents in adipose tissue are variable, ∼60-94% and ∼6-36%, respectively (Thomas, 1962). As an average, fat and water contents of 80% and 15%, respectively, and specific gravity of 0.916 g/mL can be used (ICRP Publication 23, 1975)."

Leaner people have more water in adipose tissue, fatter people have less water.

Either way, it makes such a small difference, facial bloat is mostly fat.

 

[Bewusst]

Not fully accurate.

"Fat and water contents in adipose tissue are variable, ∼60-94% and ∼6-36%, respectively (Thomas, 1962). As an average, fat and water contents of 80% and 15%, respectively, and specific gravity of 0.916 g/mL can be used (ICRP Publication 23, 1975)."

Leaner people have more water in adipose tissue, fatter people have less water.

Either way, it makes such a small difference, facial bloat is mostly fat.

"Water content in an AT is normally less than 20%, whereas 14 to 16% of this water is located extracellular and only 2 to 6% intracellular. These values can be changed dramatically in a hypertrophic fat tissue, which normally demonstrates a significantly increased (up to 50% in extracellular space and up to four times in the pericellular areas) concentration of hyaluronic acid (HA)", according to my source, which was focused on facial adipose tissue

 

[antiantifa]

"Water content in an AT is normally less than 20%, whereas 14 to 16% of this water is located extracellular and only 2 to 6% intracellular. These values can be changed dramatically in a hypertrophic fat tissue, which normally demonstrates a significantly increased (up to 50% in extracellular space and up to four times in the pericellular areas) concentration of hyaluronic acid (HA)", according to my source, which was focused on facial adipose tissue

I agree with you, this is a better source.

 

[fukmylyf]

water wet

 

[Deleted member 7076]

water wet

not really tbh, i still feel clueless about water retention at its core

 

[Rabbi]

It’s certainly not storing in my hair

 

[Bewusst]

It’s certainly not storing in my hair

Just wear a wig and get out of here already Chadpreet