How Staying at a Higher Body Fat % When You're Young Changes Your Face (Fat Pads, Volume, and Long-Term Effects) - Part 1

[Ralix]

im almost done with puberty, i turned 15 2 days ago

can i cut down to 12%? or not

 

[ihateevb]

Good thread

 

[Hunter]

im almost done with puberty, i turned 15 2 days ago

can i cut down to 12%? or not

I wouldn’t cut down to 12 mabye 15 cause imo its about longevity.

 

[Ralix]

I wouldn’t cut down to 12 mabye 15 cause imo its about longevity.

when is a safe age to cut down to 12?

 

[karmacita901]

not saying you're wrong but anecdotally this is false, i was several kgs underweight ever since i was 3-4 years old and never faced any of these issues you described

I played russian roulette and didn't die so it must be safe bro

ahh post

 

[kababcel]

Table of Contents will include:

• Introduction: Why youth bodyfat determines your face long-termHow
• Facial Fat Pads Develop during Youth
• Why Higher BF% in Childhood/Teen Years Makes the Midface Look Rounder
• How Retaining Ligaments Respond to Long-Term Volume
• Midface, Eye Area, Buccal Fat, bigonial/bizygos, What Actually Changes?
• What’s the “Best” BF% for Your Face During Youth?
• Why Cutting or staying too Lean Too Young Can Backfire
• Conclusion

Why youth bodyfat determines your face long-term

So to start off, for facial fat pads there are both superficial and deep fat compartments in the face, not just one blob of fat. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17519724/

Superficial pads are just under the skin, above the SMAS (a key soft-tissue layer).
https://entokey.com/2-aesthetic-anatomy-of-the-upper-face/?

Deep pads lie beneath that, closer to the bone, which also provides structural support.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30698919/

Most guys think face shape is just “muh bone structure”, but your soft-tissue “architecture” holds/determines pretty much what you’ll look like during childhood, teen years and adolescence as well. The fat pads in your face don’t stay the same size your whole life. They grow, shrink, stretch, and adapt depending on the long term load placed on them (aka bf% mainly).
This is obviously long term over the span of years.
Holding more body fat when you’re young doesn’t just give a “chubby face.” It actually influences the actual volume/capacity of your facial fat pads especially the ones in the midface which then affects how your adult face looks even when you cut later on.
View attachment 4334196

How Facial Fat Pads Develop during Youth

Your face has a bunch of separate pockets, each with its own blood supply and boundaries. During youth, these compartments are more plastic, meaning they adapt more to upward or downward pressure.


If you stay lean your whole youth, you never “challenge” those compartments.
If you stay at a higher BF%, you give them more long-term volume and they’ll expand their holding capacity.


This is why some guys who were chubby as kids end up having that naturally round, full midface even when they later get lean. The compartments formed around more volume.

View attachment 4334205

Why Higher BF% in Childhood/Teen Years Makes the Midface Look Rounder

The malar and medial cheek pads respond the most when retaining fat in your face. When they stay filled for years, the actual envelope that holds them becomes more spacious. Not like a balloon stretching once more like a soft material adapting to whatever sits inside it long-term.

So when you cut later, instead of deflating into a hollow, old ish midface, you get rounder, more youthful

Examples are: some dudes stay lean year-round and end up looking older or gaunt at 19, while others were bulkier as kids and have that “baby faced” fullness forever.
View attachment 4334211

How Retaining Ligaments Respond to Long-Term Volume

Retaining ligaments anchor your soft tissue to the bone. They don’t just “hold fat pads in place.” They actually respond to the weight/volume sitting on them over years.

Examples of more volume:
• more downward tension
• more ligament stretch
• slightly looser boundaries

This is why someone who stayed very high BF% their whole youth might end up with:

• looser midface tissue
• earlier sagging
• deeper nasolabial lines later in life

View attachment 4334216

Midface, Eye Area, Buccal Fat, bigonial/bizygos, What Actually Changes?

Midface (Infraorbital and Malar Area)
This is where most of the long-term changes happen. Youth volume gives you permanent “support” under the eye.

Buccal Fat
Buccal fat is different because it has a main body and branches and it’s more resistant to shrinking. People who were fatter young keep a bit more buccal fullness for life.

Parotid + Jowl Fat Pads
These pads don’t “grow” the same way, but long-term youth fullness prevents the skin from becoming paper-thin early.

Under-Eye Tear Trough
Youth fat keeps the ligament tight and the pad supported. Lean kids lose fat here permanently, leading to sunken eyes.

Bigonial/Bizygos
This is where people get confused. Fat doesn’t change bone, but it changes how strong your cheekbones read visually.

• If you were too lean growing up, the cheeks never develop that “upper volume,” so when you cut later, you look narrow, basically like your zygos don’t project.
• If you grew up with a bit more fullness, the malar fat pads, the cheekbones. So when you finally go lean at 18–22, the zygos will be viewed as enlarged, because they’re sitting above a softly filled midface instead of collapsing.

This is literally why former chubby kids sometimes look like they have ” high bone mass” the moment they lean down.
View attachment 4334219

What’s the “Best” BF% for Your Face During Youth?

TlDR Based on anatomy patterns

• Too lean (sub-10% at like age 12–17)
  You’re basically preventing fat pad growth lol, this should be pretty water. These guys grow up with hollow midfaces and look like shit..
• Moderate (15–20%)
  Ideal. Keeps the face youthful but doesn’t overstretch ligaments.
• Fat nigger (25%+) You’ll gain more fat pad volume, but you risk ligament stretching and sagging later on (aka looking like some deformed fag).

View attachment 4334226

Why Cutting Too Lean Too Young Can be retarded

Your face isn’t done developing (fat pads etc.) until your early 20’s,
Yeah so stay lean at 13,14, 15,16 with low nutrition and low BF%, and you basically fuck yourself and the compartments during the period when they were supposed to form.


Conclusion/TLDR
End your life if you can’t put yourself to spend 5 minutes reading.
Also don’t bother commenting.

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@unon @BigBallsLarry @Orka @chadisbeingmade @SlayerJonas

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@idkmanimao Helped make the thread.
View attachment 4334198

Inb4 botb

 

[Hunter]

Inb4 botb

nah not this alone mabye with the part 2

 

[TheOsei]

do

Table of Contents will include:

• Introduction: Why youth bodyfat determines your face long-termHow
• Facial Fat Pads Develop during Youth
• Why Higher BF% in Childhood/Teen Years Makes the Midface Look Rounder
• How Retaining Ligaments Respond to Long-Term Volume
• Midface, Eye Area, Buccal Fat, bigonial/bizygos, What Actually Changes?
• What’s the “Best” BF% for Your Face During Youth?
• Why Cutting or staying too Lean Too Young Can Backfire
• Conclusion

Why youth bodyfat determines your face long-term

So to start off, for facial fat pads there are both superficial and deep fat compartments in the face, not just one blob of fat. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17519724/

Superficial pads are just under the skin, above the SMAS (a key soft-tissue layer).
https://entokey.com/2-aesthetic-anatomy-of-the-upper-face/?

Deep pads lie beneath that, closer to the bone, which also provides structural support.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30698919/

Most guys think face shape is just “muh bone structure”, but your soft-tissue “architecture” holds/determines pretty much what you’ll look like during childhood, teen years and adolescence as well. The fat pads in your face don’t stay the same size your whole life. They grow, shrink, stretch, and adapt depending on the long term load placed on them (aka bf% mainly).
This is obviously long term over the span of years.
Holding more body fat when you’re young doesn’t just give a “chubby face.” It actually influences the actual volume/capacity of your facial fat pads especially the ones in the midface which then affects how your adult face looks even when you cut later on.
View attachment 4334196

How Facial Fat Pads Develop during Youth

Your face has a bunch of separate pockets, each with its own blood supply and boundaries. During youth, these compartments are more plastic, meaning they adapt more to upward or downward pressure.


If you stay lean your whole youth, you never “challenge” those compartments.
If you stay at a higher BF%, you give them more long-term volume and they’ll expand their holding capacity.


This is why some guys who were chubby as kids end up having that naturally round, full midface even when they later get lean. The compartments formed around more volume.

View attachment 4334205

Why Higher BF% in Childhood/Teen Years Makes the Midface Look Rounder

The malar and medial cheek pads respond the most when retaining fat in your face. When they stay filled for years, the actual envelope that holds them becomes more spacious. Not like a balloon stretching once more like a soft material adapting to whatever sits inside it long-term.

So when you cut later, instead of deflating into a hollow, old ish midface, you get rounder, more youthful

Examples are: some dudes stay lean year-round and end up looking older or gaunt at 19, while others were bulkier as kids and have that “baby faced” fullness forever.
View attachment 4334211

How Retaining Ligaments Respond to Long-Term Volume

Retaining ligaments anchor your soft tissue to the bone. They don’t just “hold fat pads in place.” They actually respond to the weight/volume sitting on them over years.

Examples of more volume:
• more downward tension
• more ligament stretch
• slightly looser boundaries

This is why someone who stayed very high BF% their whole youth might end up with:

• looser midface tissue
• earlier sagging
• deeper nasolabial lines later in life

View attachment 4334216

Midface, Eye Area, Buccal Fat, bigonial/bizygos, What Actually Changes?

Midface (Infraorbital and Malar Area)
This is where most of the long-term changes happen. Youth volume gives you permanent “support” under the eye.

Buccal Fat
Buccal fat is different because it has a main body and branches and it’s more resistant to shrinking. People who were fatter young keep a bit more buccal fullness for life.

Parotid + Jowl Fat Pads
These pads don’t “grow” the same way, but long-term youth fullness prevents the skin from becoming paper-thin early.

Under-Eye Tear Trough
Youth fat keeps the ligament tight and the pad supported. Lean kids lose fat here permanently, leading to sunken eyes.

Bigonial/Bizygos
This is where people get confused. Fat doesn’t change bone, but it changes how strong your cheekbones read visually.

• If you were too lean growing up, the cheeks never develop that “upper volume,” so when you cut later, you look narrow, basically like your zygos don’t project.
• If you grew up with a bit more fullness, the malar fat pads, the cheekbones. So when you finally go lean at 18–22, the zygos will be viewed as enlarged, because they’re sitting above a softly filled midface instead of collapsing.

This is literally why former chubby kids sometimes look like they have ” high bone mass” the moment they lean down.
View attachment 4334219

What’s the “Best” BF% for Your Face During Youth?

TlDR Based on anatomy patterns

• Too lean (sub-10% at like age 12–17)
  You’re basically preventing fat pad growth lol, this should be pretty water. These guys grow up with hollow midfaces and look like shit..
• Moderate (15–20%)
  Ideal. Keeps the face youthful but doesn’t overstretch ligaments.
• Fat nigger (25%+) You’ll gain more fat pad volume, but you risk ligament stretching and sagging later on (aka looking like some deformed fag).

View attachment 4334226

Why Cutting Too Lean Too Young Can be retarded

Your face isn’t done developing (fat pads etc.) until your early 20’s,
Yeah so stay lean at 13,14, 15,16 with low nutrition and low BF%, and you basically fuck yourself and the compartments during the period when they were supposed to form.


Conclusion/TLDR
End your life if you can’t put yourself to spend 5 minutes reading.
Also don’t bother commenting.

Spoiler: Tags

@unon @BigBallsLarry @Orka @chadisbeingmade @SlayerJonas

Spoiler: More tags

@Aryan Incel @Volksstaffel @aids @Org3cel @Blackpillirony

@idkmanimao Helped make the thread.
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did hernan know the method?

 

[Whirr22222]

True eve

 

[Hunter]

True eve

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jfl
good example

 

[Hunter]

do

did hernan know the method? View attachment 4336526

he would fit in the fat nigger section.
He definetly got some lipo or some fat removal.
Cause he looks so defined in some pics

 

[Sink]

hyperthyroidism?

i think lol

 

[Sink]

@Hunter legit i searched up symptoms and i got like basically every single symptom blud

 

[Org3cel]

Table of Contents will include:

• Introduction: Why youth bodyfat determines your face long-termHow
• Facial Fat Pads Develop during Youth
• Why Higher BF% in Childhood/Teen Years Makes the Midface Look Rounder
• How Retaining Ligaments Respond to Long-Term Volume
• Midface, Eye Area, Buccal Fat, bigonial/bizygos, What Actually Changes?
• What’s the “Best” BF% for Your Face During Youth?
• Why Cutting or staying too Lean Too Young Can Backfire
• Conclusion

Why youth bodyfat determines your face long-term

So to start off, for facial fat pads there are both superficial and deep fat compartments in the face, not just one blob of fat. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17519724/

Superficial pads are just under the skin, above the SMAS (a key soft-tissue layer).
https://entokey.com/2-aesthetic-anatomy-of-the-upper-face/?

Deep pads lie beneath that, closer to the bone, which also provides structural support.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30698919/

Most guys think face shape is just “muh bone structure”, but your soft-tissue “architecture” holds/determines pretty much what you’ll look like during childhood, teen years and adolescence as well. The fat pads in your face don’t stay the same size your whole life. They grow, shrink, stretch, and adapt depending on the long term load placed on them (aka bf% mainly).
This is obviously long term over the span of years.
Holding more body fat when you’re young doesn’t just give a “chubby face.” It actually influences the actual volume/capacity of your facial fat pads especially the ones in the midface which then affects how your adult face looks even when you cut later on.
View attachment 4334196

How Facial Fat Pads Develop during Youth

Your face has a bunch of separate pockets, each with its own blood supply and boundaries. During youth, these compartments are more plastic, meaning they adapt more to upward or downward pressure.


If you stay lean your whole youth, you never “challenge” those compartments.
If you stay at a higher BF%, you give them more long-term volume and they’ll expand their holding capacity.


This is why some guys who were chubby as kids end up having that naturally round, full midface even when they later get lean. The compartments formed around more volume.

View attachment 4334205

Why Higher BF% in Childhood/Teen Years Makes the Midface Look Rounder

The malar and medial cheek pads respond the most when retaining fat in your face. When they stay filled for years, the actual envelope that holds them becomes more spacious. Not like a balloon stretching once more like a soft material adapting to whatever sits inside it long-term.

So when you cut later, instead of deflating into a hollow, old ish midface, you get rounder, more youthful

Examples are: some dudes stay lean year-round and end up looking older or gaunt at 19, while others were bulkier as kids and have that “baby faced” fullness forever.
View attachment 4334211

How Retaining Ligaments Respond to Long-Term Volume

Retaining ligaments anchor your soft tissue to the bone. They don’t just “hold fat pads in place.” They actually respond to the weight/volume sitting on them over years.

Examples of more volume:
• more downward tension
• more ligament stretch
• slightly looser boundaries

This is why someone who stayed very high BF% their whole youth might end up with:

• looser midface tissue
• earlier sagging
• deeper nasolabial lines later in life

View attachment 4334216

Midface, Eye Area, Buccal Fat, bigonial/bizygos, What Actually Changes?

Midface (Infraorbital and Malar Area)
This is where most of the long-term changes happen. Youth volume gives you permanent “support” under the eye.

Buccal Fat
Buccal fat is different because it has a main body and branches and it’s more resistant to shrinking. People who were fatter young keep a bit more buccal fullness for life.

Parotid + Jowl Fat Pads
These pads don’t “grow” the same way, but long-term youth fullness prevents the skin from becoming paper-thin early.

Under-Eye Tear Trough
Youth fat keeps the ligament tight and the pad supported. Lean kids lose fat here permanently, leading to sunken eyes.

Bigonial/Bizygos
This is where people get confused. Fat doesn’t change bone, but it changes how strong your cheekbones read visually.

• If you were too lean growing up, the cheeks never develop that “upper volume,” so when you cut later, you look narrow, basically like your zygos don’t project.
• If you grew up with a bit more fullness, the malar fat pads, the cheekbones. So when you finally go lean at 18–22, the zygos will be viewed as enlarged, because they’re sitting above a softly filled midface instead of collapsing.

This is literally why former chubby kids sometimes look like they have ” high bone mass” the moment they lean down.
View attachment 4334219

What’s the “Best” BF% for Your Face During Youth?

TlDR Based on anatomy patterns

• Too lean (sub-10% at like age 12–17)
  You’re basically preventing fat pad growth lol, this should be pretty water. These guys grow up with hollow midfaces and look like shit..
• Moderate (15–20%)
  Ideal. Keeps the face youthful but doesn’t overstretch ligaments.
• Fat nigger (25%+) You’ll gain more fat pad volume, but you risk ligament stretching and sagging later on (aka looking like some deformed fag).

View attachment 4334226

Why Cutting Too Lean Too Young Can be retarded

Your face isn’t done developing (fat pads etc.) until your early 20’s,
Yeah so stay lean at 13,14, 15,16 with low nutrition and low BF%, and you basically fuck yourself and the compartments during the period when they were supposed to form.


Conclusion/TLDR
End your life if you can’t put yourself to spend 5 minutes reading.
Also don’t bother commenting.

Spoiler: Tags

@unon @BigBallsLarry @Orka @chadisbeingmade @SlayerJonas

Spoiler: More tags

@Aryan Incel @Volksstaffel @aids @Org3cel @Blackpillirony

@idkmanimao Helped make the thread.
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Nice thread and thanks for tagging me!
I wont be cutting down to 10% now then!

 

[LegendaryKennen]

I played russian roulette and didn't die so it must be safe bro

ahh post

Seeing everything in black and white is a common sign of being on the spectrum

Blocked.

 

[Aryan Incel]

Very nice

 

[ThomasDeutsch]

True eve

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Jfl

 

[smartstyle]

Its Solved now I did 4 sessions of aqualyx one session every 2 months and my face became lean

Had to do the same ngl. I look pufferfish 100 kg at 15%

 

[taxGatherer]

Good thread, good to know im even more cooked

 

[muhammad18347]

inb4 botb

 

[Cannoedskulled]

Table of Contents will include:

• Introduction: Why youth bodyfat determines your face long-termHow
• Facial Fat Pads Develop during Youth
• Why Higher BF% in Childhood/Teen Years Makes the Midface Look Rounder
• How Retaining Ligaments Respond to Long-Term Volume
• Midface, Eye Area, Buccal Fat, bigonial/bizygos, What Actually Changes?
• What’s the “Best” BF% for Your Face During Youth?
• Why Cutting or staying too Lean Too Young Can Backfire
• Conclusion

Why youth bodyfat determines your face long-term

So to start off, for facial fat pads there are both superficial and deep fat compartments in the face, not just one blob of fat. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17519724/

Superficial pads are just under the skin, above the SMAS (a key soft-tissue layer).
https://entokey.com/2-aesthetic-anatomy-of-the-upper-face/?

Deep pads lie beneath that, closer to the bone, which also provides structural support.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30698919/

Most guys think face shape is just “muh bone structure”, but your soft-tissue “architecture” holds/determines pretty much what you’ll look like during childhood, teen years and adolescence as well. The fat pads in your face don’t stay the same size your whole life. They grow, shrink, stretch, and adapt depending on the long term load placed on them (aka bf% mainly).
This is obviously long term over the span of years.
Holding more body fat when you’re young doesn’t just give a “chubby face.” It actually influences the actual volume/capacity of your facial fat pads especially the ones in the midface which then affects how your adult face looks even when you cut later on.
View attachment 4334196

How Facial Fat Pads Develop during Youth

Your face has a bunch of separate pockets, each with its own blood supply and boundaries. During youth, these compartments are more plastic, meaning they adapt more to upward or downward pressure.


If you stay lean your whole youth, you never “challenge” those compartments.
If you stay at a higher BF%, you give them more long-term volume and they’ll expand their holding capacity.


This is why some guys who were chubby as kids end up having that naturally round, full midface even when they later get lean. The compartments formed around more volume.

View attachment 4334205

Why Higher BF% in Childhood/Teen Years Makes the Midface Look Rounder

The malar and medial cheek pads respond the most when retaining fat in your face. When they stay filled for years, the actual envelope that holds them becomes more spacious. Not like a balloon stretching once more like a soft material adapting to whatever sits inside it long-term.

So when you cut later, instead of deflating into a hollow, old ish midface, you get rounder, more youthful

Examples are: some dudes stay lean year-round and end up looking older or gaunt at 19, while others were bulkier as kids and have that “baby faced” fullness forever.
View attachment 4334211

How Retaining Ligaments Respond to Long-Term Volume

Retaining ligaments anchor your soft tissue to the bone. They don’t just “hold fat pads in place.” They actually respond to the weight/volume sitting on them over years.

Examples of more volume:
• more downward tension
• more ligament stretch
• slightly looser boundaries

This is why someone who stayed very high BF% their whole youth might end up with:

• looser midface tissue
• earlier sagging
• deeper nasolabial lines later in life

View attachment 4334216

Midface, Eye Area, Buccal Fat, bigonial/bizygos, What Actually Changes?

Midface (Infraorbital and Malar Area)
This is where most of the long-term changes happen. Youth volume gives you permanent “support” under the eye.

Buccal Fat
Buccal fat is different because it has a main body and branches and it’s more resistant to shrinking. People who were fatter young keep a bit more buccal fullness for life.

Parotid + Jowl Fat Pads
These pads don’t “grow” the same way, but long-term youth fullness prevents the skin from becoming paper-thin early.

Under-Eye Tear Trough
Youth fat keeps the ligament tight and the pad supported. Lean kids lose fat here permanently, leading to sunken eyes.

Bigonial/Bizygos
This is where people get confused. Fat doesn’t change bone, but it changes how strong your cheekbones read visually.

• If you were too lean growing up, the cheeks never develop that “upper volume,” so when you cut later, you look narrow, basically like your zygos don’t project.
• If you grew up with a bit more fullness, the malar fat pads, the cheekbones. So when you finally go lean at 18–22, the zygos will be viewed as enlarged, because they’re sitting above a softly filled midface instead of collapsing.

This is literally why former chubby kids sometimes look like they have ” high bone mass” the moment they lean down.
View attachment 4334219

What’s the “Best” BF% for Your Face During Youth?

TlDR Based on anatomy patterns

• Too lean (sub-10% at like age 12–17)
  You’re basically preventing fat pad growth lol, this should be pretty water. These guys grow up with hollow midfaces and look like shit..
• Moderate (15–20%)
  Ideal. Keeps the face youthful but doesn’t overstretch ligaments.
• Fat nigger (25%+) You’ll gain more fat pad volume, but you risk ligament stretching and sagging later on (aka looking like some deformed fag).

View attachment 4334226

Why Cutting Too Lean Too Young Can be retarded

Your face isn’t done developing (fat pads etc.) until your early 20’s,
Yeah so stay lean at 13,14, 15,16 with low nutrition and low BF%, and you basically fuck yourself and the compartments during the period when they were supposed to form.


Conclusion/TLDR
End your life if you can’t put yourself to spend 5 minutes reading.
Also don’t bother commenting.

Spoiler: Tags

@unon @BigBallsLarry @Orka @chadisbeingmade @SlayerJonas

Spoiler: More tags

@Aryan Incel @Volksstaffel @aids @Org3cel @Blackpillirony

@idkmanimao Helped make the thread.
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bro i swim so i burn carbs like there is no tomorrow so my body fat stays at around 8-11 but im still eating around 4000 calories a day, sadly i cant eat fully healthy if i want to hit that but i still get too lean without building the muscle i want, its a fuck ass life, eat a lot till i burst -> stay the same, eat normal -> turn into a fucking minecraft skeleton