Islam is true with proof

[ThatDjangoWalk]

allah would of done something if he was real wouldn't he ?

Your argument is based on the assumption that the earthly life is where the ultimate reward is to be found, which is not the case in Islam.

 

[Deleted member 10987]

wow that's actually a good point

So i guess christianity is false because of all of their lost territories in MENA ?

 

[Deleted member 13094]

So i guess christianity is false because of all of their lost territories in MENA ?

i don't really associate with any religion, i believe there's a god but that the religions on earth aren't the true religions or maybe god exists in multiple forms, but i guess you are also right

 

[CupOfCoffee]

Reddit moment

Oof Habibi such a smart response

 

[Deleted member 13094]

Your argument is based on the assumption that the earthly life is where the ultimate reward is to be found, which is not the case in Islam.

over for you if you follow the rules of islam, "no sex before marriage" "no girlfriend"

 

[Deleted member 10987]

Oof Habibi such a smart response

 

[Ryan]

over for you if you follow the rules of islam, "no sex before marriage" "no girlfriend"View attachment 1233980

Yh so that everyone can get virgin wifes.. U can get married at 16 too btw

 

[Deleted member 13094]

Yh so that everyone can get virgin wifes.. U can get married at 16 too btw

how will the virgin wives look ?

 

[Ryan]

how will the virgin wives look ?

wdym

 

[Deleted member 13094]

wdym

how will the virgin wives in paradise look

 

[Deleted member 6128]

How will you justify the countless prophecies in bible quran and hadits that came true?.. Without any doubt god of Abraham is the truth

Because those countless prophecies come from older more advanced civilisations

 

[Baldingman1998]

With how unfair life is (and you should be aware of this if you're truly blackpilled) you can't possibly believe in a fair and just God who loves his creatures. Religion is literally the #1 cope humans have invented to try to justify their shitty unfair meaningless lives

Based.

This is reality

 

[Deleted member 10987]

Because those countless prophecies come from older more advanced civilisations

>more advanced
Hugely Debatable

 

[Ryan]

how will the virgin wives in paradise look

the most ugly one would be 70x more beautiful than the most beautiful woman who stepped on earth

 

[Deleted member 13094]

the most ugly one would be 70x more beautiful than the most beautiful woman who stepped on earth

if they can't be anime girls no care tbh

 

[Deleted member 6128]

>more advanced
Hugely Debatable

They were definitely more advanced than those who surrounded them at that time

Some stories in the Quran and Bible are factual and have historical evidence shown by other civilisations others are literally tales passed down from families

 

[ThatDjangoWalk]

Because those countless prophecies come from older more advanced civilisations

Nah man, we are speaking about books with manuscripts who date from the 7th to 10th century, and which speak about 21st century events.

Take a look of some made about the modern age.

Anas (Radiallahu anhu) narrates that the Prophet ﷺ said, “Once my nation considers five things permissible, then destruction will befall them: when cursing one another appears, wine is drunk, silk is worn [by men], musical instruments are played, and men suffice themselves with men and women suffice themselves with women.”

‘Abdullah b. ‘Amr (Radiallahu anhu) narrates that the Prophet ﷺ said, “The Hour will not commence until people mate in the streets just as donkeys mate”
I asked, “Will that really happen?” He said, “Yes, it most certainly will happen.”

Abu Hurayra (Radiallahu anhu) reports that the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said, “A time will come over the people when they will consume interest” They asked him, “All of them?” He said, “Whoever does not consume it will [still] be reached by its dust.”

No need to explain: Abu Hurayra (Radiallahu Anhu) narrates that the Prophet ﷺ foretold that there will emerge in the future “women who are clothed yet naked, walking with an enticing gait"

The competition among arabs for tall buildings, this one is another one which is a big longshot since the arabs were one of the last nations one would expect to compete in such matter. Nowadays the tallest building in the world is the Burj Khalifa in UAE, the third tallest skyscraper is the Clock Tower in Mecca, and Saudi Arabia is right now in process with the Jeddah Tower which is planned to become the world's first 1km tall building.
The Prophet Muhammad ﷺ said, “And if you see the barefoot, naked, shepherds of camels competing [for praise] in the construction of high-rise buildings, then this is from among the signs [of the Hour].”

This one doesn't need much explanation, it is pretty evident in the muslim world: He ﷺ said, “The Hour will not commence before people boast of their mosques.”

In this particular narration the Last Prophet shows both knowledge of the future (this is happening right now in Saudi and other arab countries) and prehistorical knowledge: Abu Hurayra (Radiallahu Anhu) reports that the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said, “The Hour will not commence before wealth becomes abundant and overflowing, to the point that a man brings out the Zakāt (charity due) on his wealth and cannot find anyone to accept it from him, and to the point that Arabia’s lands revert to meadows and rivers.”

The globalization of Islam, when this prophecy was made muslim were no more than a bunch of arab tribes stuck in the Arabian desert, again a big longshot, just imagine a man in the most remote desert saying this and the possibilities of it being fulfilled while his territory is sourrounded by both internal enemies and the two biggest empires of the world: Tamīm ad-Dāri (Radiallahu anhu) reports that the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said, “This matter will certainly reach every place touched by the night and day. Allah will not leave a house of mud or [even] fur except that Allah will cause this religion to enter it, by which the honorable will be honored and the disgraceful will be disgraced. Allah will honor the honorable with Islam and he will disgrace the disgraceful with unbelief.”

No need to get deep in this one, we can see religions decreasing but alcohol and fornication, adultery, etc increasing:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "From among the portents of the Hour are (the following): -1. Religious knowledge will be taken away (by the death of Religious learned men). -2. (Religious) ignorance will prevail. -3. Drinking of Alcoholic drinks (will be very common). -4. There will be prevalence of open illegal sexual intercourse.

This one is also pretty evident and by the way, another big longshot. Bear in mind that saying in 7th century arabia that tunnels would be constructed through mountains in an era in which those kind of events needed a resources which were not available at the time is almost like playing the lottery and winning.
Abdullah ibn Umru (Radiallahu Anhu) said:
"If you see Makkah with holes pierced through it's mountains and it's buildings reach the mountain tops then know that the hour has cast it's shadow over you"


Compare them with the Nostradamus ones for example (probably the most famous one and praised for his "precision"), which are very bold in the best of cases and the relationship people make about them is kinda forced

Hiroshima and Nagasaki
"Near the gates and within two cities
There will be scourges the like of which was never seen,
Famine within plague, people put out by steel,
Crying to the great immortal God for relief."

Assassination of Kennedy
"The great man will be struck down in the day by a thunderbolt,
An evil deed foretold by the bearer of a petition.
According to the prediction, another falls at night time.
Conflict at Reims, London and a pestilence in Tuscany."

Napoleon
"PAU, NAY, LORON will be more of fire than of the blood,
To swim in praise, the great one to flee to the confluence.
He will refuse entry to the Piuses,
The depraved ones and the Durance will keep them imprisoned. "

French Revolution
"From the enslaved populace, songs,
Chants and demands
While princes and lords are held captive in prisons.
These will in the future by headless idiots
Be received as divine prayers."

Death of Henry II
"The young lion will overcome the older one,
On the field of combat in a single battle;
He will pierce his eyes through a golden cage,
Two wounds made one, then he dies a cruel death."

 

[Deleted member 10987]

They were definitely more advanced than those who surrounded them at that time

Some stories in the Quran and Bible are factual and have historical evidence shown by other civilisations others are literally tales passed down from families

Like who for exemple ?

 

[Ryan]

Nah man, we are speaking about books with manuscripts who date from the 7th to 10th century, and which speak about 21st century events.

Take a look of some made about the modern age.

Anas (Radiallahu anhu) narrates that the Prophet ﷺ said, “Once my nation considers five things permissible, then destruction will befall them: when cursing one another appears, wine is drunk, silk is worn [by men], musical instruments are played, and men suffice themselves with men and women suffice themselves with women.”

‘Abdullah b. ‘Amr (Radiallahu anhu) narrates that the Prophet ﷺ said, “The Hour will not commence until people mate in the streets just as donkeys mate”
I asked, “Will that really happen?” He said, “Yes, it most certainly will happen.”

Abu Hurayra (Radiallahu anhu) reports that the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said, “A time will come over the people when they will consume interest” They asked him, “All of them?” He said, “Whoever does not consume it will [still] be reached by its dust.”

No need to explain: Abu Hurayra (Radiallahu Anhu) narrates that the Prophet ﷺ foretold that there will emerge in the future “women who are clothed yet naked, walking with an enticing gait"

The competition among arabs for tall buildings, this one is another one which is a big longshot since the arabs were one of the last nations one would expect to compete in such matter. Nowadays the tallest building in the world is the Burj Khalifa in UAE, the third tallest skyscraper is the Clock Tower in Mecca, and Saudi Arabia is right now in process with the Jeddah Tower which is planned to become the world's first 1km tall building.
The Prophet Muhammad ﷺ said, “And if you see the barefoot, naked, shepherds of camels competing [for praise] in the construction of high-rise buildings, then this is from among the signs [of the Hour].”

This one doesn't need much explanation, it is pretty evident in the muslim world: He ﷺ said, “The Hour will not commence before people boast of their mosques.”

In this particular narration the Last Prophet shows both knowledge of the future (this is happening right now in Saudi and other arab countries) and prehistorical knowledge: Abu Hurayra (Radiallahu Anhu) reports that the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said, “The Hour will not commence before wealth becomes abundant and overflowing, to the point that a man brings out the Zakāt (charity due) on his wealth and cannot find anyone to accept it from him, and to the point that Arabia’s lands revert to meadows and rivers.”

The globalization of Islam, when this prophecy was made muslim were no more than a bunch of arab tribes stuck in the Arabian desert, again a big longshot, just imagine a man in the most remote desert saying this and the possibilities of it being fulfilled while his territory is sourrounded by both internal enemies and the two biggest empires of the world: Tamīm ad-Dāri (Radiallahu anhu) reports that the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said, “This matter will certainly reach every place touched by the night and day. Allah will not leave a house of mud or [even] fur except that Allah will cause this religion to enter it, by which the honorable will be honored and the disgraceful will be disgraced. Allah will honor the honorable with Islam and he will disgrace the disgraceful with unbelief.”

No need to get deep in this one, we can see religions decreasing but alcohol and fornication, adultery, etc increasing:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "From among the portents of the Hour are (the following): -1. Religious knowledge will be taken away (by the death of Religious learned men). -2. (Religious) ignorance will prevail. -3. Drinking of Alcoholic drinks (will be very common). -4. There will be prevalence of open illegal sexual intercourse.

This one is also pretty evident and by the way, another big longshot. Bear in mind that saying in 7th century arabia that tunnels would be constructed through mountains in an era in which those kind of events needed a resources which were not available at the time is almost like playing the lottery and winning.
Abdullah ibn Umru (Radiallahu Anhu) said:
"If you see Makkah with holes pierced through it's mountains and it's buildings reach the mountain tops then know that the hour has cast it's shadow over you"


Compare them with the Nostradamus ones for example (probably the most famous one and praised for his "precision"), which are very bold in the best of cases and the relationship people make about them is kinda forced

Hiroshima and Nagasaki
"Near the gates and within two cities
There will be scourges the like of which was never seen,
Famine within plague, people put out by steel,
Crying to the great immortal God for relief."

Assassination of Kennedy
"The great man will be struck down in the day by a thunderbolt,
An evil deed foretold by the bearer of a petition.
According to the prediction, another falls at night time.
Conflict at Reims, London and a pestilence in Tuscany."

Napoleon
"PAU, NAY, LORON will be more of fire than of the blood,
To swim in praise, the great one to flee to the confluence.
He will refuse entry to the Piuses,
The depraved ones and the Durance will keep them imprisoned. "

French Revolution
"From the enslaved populace, songs,
Chants and demands
While princes and lords are held captive in prisons.
These will in the future by headless idiots
Be received as divine prayers."

Death of Henry II
"The young lion will overcome the older one,
On the field of combat in a single battle;
He will pierce his eyes through a golden cage,
Two wounds made one, then he dies a cruel death."

and hazrat muhammad prophecied about conquring of constantiople,india and jersusalem by muslim hands at the time when muslims were so less that people laughed at them and thought it was imposible

 

[ThatDjangoWalk]

They were definitely more advanced than those who surrounded them at that time

Some stories in the Quran and Bible are factual and have historical evidence shown by other civilisations others are literally tales passed down from families

I think i understand what do you mean.

People in this case have certain assumptions coming from Biblical stories and they adhere them to Islam also.

For example Judeo-Christians believe in a wordly flood of Noah (alayhi a salam) and there is really no proof for such, this is not the case in Islam in which we believe the flood could have merely be a regional one.

Same with the Jewish exodus, in which the Bible claims that they were Millions of jews (a big chunk of the population of the time, and which would have certainly left archeological evidence that doesn't exist), meanwhile in Islam, Allah corrects that (interpretation of the meaning): "These (Israelites) are but a small band"

And we could go on all day with these kind of things, it's an interesting subject.

 

[ThatDjangoWalk]

and hazrat muhammad prophecied about conquring of constantiople,india and jersusalem by muslim hands at the time when muslims were so less that people laughed at them and thought it was imposible

I didn't really want to use those of the past, but some of the future because i misinterpreted the comment of Blackmann.

The ones that took place in the past in my opinion are even stronger than the ones of the future.

 

[Baldingman1998]

I should make more islam related threads to get reacts and 10 pages

 

[Deleted member 6128]

Nah man, we are speaking about books with manuscripts who date from the 7th to 10th century, and which speak about 21st century events.

Take a look of some made about the modern age.

Anas (Radiallahu anhu) narrates that the Prophet ﷺ said, “Once my nation considers five things permissible, then destruction will befall them: when cursing one another appears, wine is drunk, silk is worn [by men], musical instruments are played, and men suffice themselves with men and women suffice themselves with women.”

‘Abdullah b. ‘Amr (Radiallahu anhu) narrates that the Prophet ﷺ said, “The Hour will not commence until people mate in the streets just as donkeys mate”
I asked, “Will that really happen?” He said, “Yes, it most certainly will happen.”

Abu Hurayra (Radiallahu anhu) reports that the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said, “A time will come over the people when they will consume interest” They asked him, “All of them?” He said, “Whoever does not consume it will [still] be reached by its dust.”

No need to explain: Abu Hurayra (Radiallahu Anhu) narrates that the Prophet ﷺ foretold that there will emerge in the future “women who are clothed yet naked, walking with an enticing gait"

The competition among arabs for tall buildings, this one is another one which is a big longshot since the arabs were one of the last nations one would expect to compete in such matter. Nowadays the tallest building in the world is the Burj Khalifa in UAE, the third tallest skyscraper is the Clock Tower in Mecca, and Saudi Arabia is right now in process with the Jeddah Tower which is planned to become the world's first 1km tall building.
The Prophet Muhammad ﷺ said, “And if you see the barefoot, naked, shepherds of camels competing [for praise] in the construction of high-rise buildings, then this is from among the signs [of the Hour].”

This one doesn't need much explanation, it is pretty evident in the muslim world: He ﷺ said, “The Hour will not commence before people boast of their mosques.”

In this particular narration the Last Prophet shows both knowledge of the future (this is happening right now in Saudi and other arab countries) and prehistorical knowledge: Abu Hurayra (Radiallahu Anhu) reports that the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said, “The Hour will not commence before wealth becomes abundant and overflowing, to the point that a man brings out the Zakāt (charity due) on his wealth and cannot find anyone to accept it from him, and to the point that Arabia’s lands revert to meadows and rivers.”

The globalization of Islam, when this prophecy was made muslim were no more than a bunch of arab tribes stuck in the Arabian desert, again a big longshot, just imagine a man in the most remote desert saying this and the possibilities of it being fulfilled while his territory is sourrounded by both internal enemies and the two biggest empires of the world: Tamīm ad-Dāri (Radiallahu anhu) reports that the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said, “This matter will certainly reach every place touched by the night and day. Allah will not leave a house of mud or [even] fur except that Allah will cause this religion to enter it, by which the honorable will be honored and the disgraceful will be disgraced. Allah will honor the honorable with Islam and he will disgrace the disgraceful with unbelief.”

No need to get deep in this one, we can see religions decreasing but alcohol and fornication, adultery, etc increasing:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "From among the portents of the Hour are (the following): -1. Religious knowledge will be taken away (by the death of Religious learned men). -2. (Religious) ignorance will prevail. -3. Drinking of Alcoholic drinks (will be very common). -4. There will be prevalence of open illegal sexual intercourse.

This one is also pretty evident and by the way, another big longshot. Bear in mind that saying in 7th century arabia that tunnels would be constructed through mountains in an era in which those kind of events needed a resources which were not available at the time is almost like playing the lottery and winning.
Abdullah ibn Umru (Radiallahu Anhu) said:
"If you see Makkah with holes pierced through it's mountains and it's buildings reach the mountain tops then know that the hour has cast it's shadow over you"


Compare them with the Nostradamus ones for example (probably the most famous one and praised for his "precision"), which are very bold in the best of cases and the relationship people make about them is kinda forced

Hiroshima and Nagasaki
"Near the gates and within two cities
There will be scourges the like of which was never seen,
Famine within plague, people put out by steel,
Crying to the great immortal God for relief."

Assassination of Kennedy
"The great man will be struck down in the day by a thunderbolt,
An evil deed foretold by the bearer of a petition.
According to the prediction, another falls at night time.
Conflict at Reims, London and a pestilence in Tuscany."

Napoleon
"PAU, NAY, LORON will be more of fire than of the blood,
To swim in praise, the great one to flee to the confluence.
He will refuse entry to the Piuses,
The depraved ones and the Durance will keep them imprisoned. "

French Revolution
"From the enslaved populace, songs,
Chants and demands
While princes and lords are held captive in prisons.
These will in the future by headless idiots
Be received as divine prayers."

Death of Henry II
"The young lion will overcome the older one,
On the field of combat in a single battle;
He will pierce his eyes through a golden cage,
Two wounds made one, then he dies a cruel death."

The first one isn’t a prophecy considering it’s happened before in history. Muhammad visited Jerusalem a place once held by Romans I wouldn’t of been suprised if he was educated about them and learnt about their downfall considering it was the 6th century.(Jews are also well known for documenting history)

2. People were already having sex on the streets at that time fucking sex slaves were being sold in Mecca at that time and probably still are to this day.

3. I have no idea what that means probably a translation issue considering that Arabic is just a shitty version of Hebrew

4.Prostitutes? Whores? Sex Slaves? Do people all this degeneracy randomly began in the 21st century

5. How do you know he’s specifically talking about Arabs? But this one is strange ngl

6. Reports that the messenger of Allah said :

7. Muhammad didn’t even live in the desert he lived near the coast directly by the Horn of Africa which at that time had advanced civilisations and not further from there was Egypt which made a lot of its own predictions which were more accurate than anything you have listed

8. Literally all 4 of those have always happened not even a prediction have you never heard the quote “ We learn history to not repeat the same mistakes” Anyone who had known history would know that these things prevalent in almost all successful societies even before and during that period

9. Didn’t Arabia already have tunnels at that time didn’t Muhammad reside in one of them

 

[Deleted member 6128]

and hazrat muhammad prophecied about conquring of constantiople,india and jersusalem by muslim hands at the time when muslims were so less that people laughed at them and thought it was imposible

Proof

 

[Ryan]

Proof

@ThatDjangoWalk can u give him the refrences

 

[Deleted member 6128]

I think i understand what do you mean.

People in this case have certain assumptions coming from Biblical stories and they adhere them to Islam also.

For example Judeo-Christians believe in a wordly flood of Noah (alayhi a salam) and there is really no proof for such, this is not the case in Islam in which we believe the flood could have merely be a regional one.

Same with the Jewish exodus, in which the Bible claims that they were Millions of jews (a big chunk of the population of the time, and which would have certainly left archeological evidence that doesn't exist), meanwhile in Islam, Allah corrects that (interpretation of the meaning): "These (Israelites) are but a small band"

And we could go on all day with these kind of things, it's an interesting subject.

Bible and the Hebrew Bible are different

Im talking about the Hebrew Bible which literally says the same thing as the Quran JFL

Europeans Ruined Christianity and what it meant

 

[Gengar]

Yh so that everyone can get virgin wifes.. U can get married at 16 too btw

nope its changed to 18 due to westerners (the jews in the islamic world) influence over the natives in islamic countries

 

[Biiyo03]

allah would of done something if he was real wouldn't he ?

 

[Gengar]

The first one isn’t a prophecy considering it’s happened before in history. Muhammad visited Jerusalem a place once held by Romans I wouldn’t of been suprised if he was educated about them and learnt about their downfall considering it was the 6th century.(Jews are also well known for documenting history)

2. People were already having sex on the streets at that time fucking sex slaves were being sold in Mecca at that time and probably still are to this day.

3. I have no idea what that means probably a translation issue considering that Arabic is just a shitty version of Hebrew

4.Prostitutes? Whores? Sex Slaves? Do people all this degeneracy randomly began in the 21st century

5. How do you know he’s specifically talking about Arabs? But this one is strange ngl

6. Reports that the messenger of Allah said :

7. Muhammad didn’t even live in the desert he lived near the coast directly by the Horn of Africa which at that time had advanced civilisations and not further from there was Egypt which made a lot of its own predictions which were more accurate than anything you have listed

8. Literally all 4 of those have always happened not even a prediction have you never heard the quote “ We learn history to not repeat the same mistakes” Anyone who had known history would know that these things prevalent in almost all successful societies even before and during that period

9. Didn’t Arabia already have tunnels at that time didn’t Muhammad reside in one of them

cant be bothered to respond to all of these things but regarding no 9. its caves, not tunnels

 

[ThatDjangoWalk]

The first one isn’t a prophecy considering it’s happened before in history. Muhammad visited Jerusalem a place once held by Romans I wouldn’t of been suprised if he was educated about them and learnt about their downfall considering it was the th century.(Jews are also well known for documenting history)

It is a prophecy since he speaks of events of the future concerning his own nation, which for centuries hold those things as prohibited until now.

He visited Jerusalem in Al Asr wa'l mi'raj after revelation, the claim that he did so before is very bold and very weak. Not one historian who holda the title of historian would usually dare to do so with all the gatered information nowadays, even his uncle aftwr Al Asr wa'l Miraj never challenged the claim by saying "You know the sourroundings because we went when you were younger"

2. People were already having sex on the streets at that time fucking sex slaves were being sold in Mecca at that time and probably still are to this day.

Even tho it is fulfilled, I'll give you that is a generalized one.

3. I have no idea what that means probably a translation issue considering that Arabic is just a shitty version of Hebrew

No, Ribaa is interest, this one is also fulfilled.

4.Prostitutes? Whores? Sex Slaves? Do people all this degeneracy randomly began in the 21st century

Same as the second, it is fulfilled but i will accept it is a general one.

5. How do you know he’s specifically talking about Arabs? But this one is strange ngl

Because many interpreters of the past said that it is speaking about a time in which arabs will compete in such.

6. Reports that the messenger of Allah said :

What?

7. Muhammad didn’t even live in the desert he lived near the coast directly by the Horn of Africa which at that time had advanced civilisations and not further from there was Egypt which made a lot of its own predictions which were more accurate than anything you have listed
8. Literally all 4 of those have always happened not even a prediction have you never heard the quote “ We learn history to not repeat the same mistakes” Anyone who had known history would know that these things prevalent in almost all successful societies even before and during that period

Too big of a claim, you are basically saying that he practically had access to the internet or to the best libraries while he spent his entire lifetime in the desert instead of in Rome or the Sassanis Capital.

9. Didn’t Arabia already have tunnels at that time didn’t Muhammad reside in one of them

I'll need to do research on this one.

 

[ThatDjangoWalk]

Bible and the Hebrew Bible are different

Im talking about the Hebrew Bible which literally says the same thing as the Quran JFL

No man, when i learn about the Old Testament i almost always do it from the jewish side and looking jewish exegesis since their ones are the best and most reliable. I think you should read both OT, NT and Qur'an, and if you did it re-read it (better with exegesis/tafsir), lookout Maimonides from the Jews (he must have one), maybe Ibn Kathir from the Muslims and others, there are many interesting.

Europeans Ruined Christianity and what it meant

I agree. I recommend a horizontal reading of the NT and compare the stories of Luke, John, Mark and Matthew, you will see where the discrepancies start and how Luke starts kinda bootlicking the Romans when compared with his colleagues.

Also there is a book called "The Five Gospels" in which several biblical historian write in black that which has been demonstrated not to be the words of Jesus, and in other colors that whichis dobtful, probable, etc, it's a great read.

 

[Deleted member 10913]

you can't possibly believe in a fair and just God who loves his creatures.

why not lol

Religion is literally the #1 cope humans have invented to try to justify their shitty unfair meaningless lives

that´s your opinion. A quite silly opinion.

 

[BrendioEEE]

originally christinaty was a sect of Judaism

Stopped reading here, because this is not true.

Judaism is Talmudism, and has nothing to do with the original tribes of Judah and Christianity. People who practice Judaism today, were called Pharisees, Fake Jews, and The Synagogue of Satan, and are the enemy of The Bible many times, whether it be when they were Babylonians, or in the New Testament, as pharisees.

 

[ilyess]

With no doubt obviously, you don't have to justify shit for christcucks and the "freethinkers" here btw just go enjoy barbecue with the family

 

[Ryan]

Stopped reading here, because this is not true.

Judaism is Talmudism, and has nothing to do with the original tribes of Judah and Christianity. People who practice Judaism today, were called Pharisees, Fake Jews, and The Synagogue of Satan, and are the enemy of The Bible many times, whether it be when they were Babylonians, or in the New Testament, as pharisees.

if jews of today are not like the old still it doesnt change the fact that whoever believe in nohas 7 laws will have their part in afterlife and jesus believed that salvation is through act not faith

 

[Ryan]

Stopped reading here, because this is not true.

Judaism is Talmudism, and has nothing to do with the original tribes of Judah and Christianity. People who practice Judaism today, were called Pharisees, Fake Jews, and The Synagogue of Satan, and are the enemy of The Bible many times, whether it be when they were Babylonians, or in the New Testament, as pharisees.

and btw todays christinaty is nowhere near original one...its more like paultanity or christinaty of constantine

 

[Deleted member 10042]

a religion where u sing in church lol and dont even wash ur body before from impurity b4 u pray is proper bs

Ur ass can be full of shit and u will still pray and sing and drink wine what a mess

 

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Ngl I've changed my mind since then.

 

[Ryan]

Ngl I've changed my mind since then.

Since what?

 

[Deleted member 13094]

XD

 

[Deleted member 13094]

aryan muslims be like

 

[Ryan]

aryan muslims be like

Jfl tbh.. But masallah

 

[JackSparrow]

Nvm,

Since what?

I thought this was an old thread, where I use to debate Muslims when I was Christian.

 

[Deleted member 13094]

Jfl tbh.. But masallah

can i convert

 

[Deleted member 13226]

mashallah halal islam?!?!?!?

 

[RoundHouse]

mashallah halal islam?!?!?!?

islam your mother

 

[Ryan]

can i convert

Surely, those who believed in Allah, and those who are Jews, and Christians, and Sabians, -whosoever 1) believes in Allah(one God) and 2) in the Last Day, and 3) does good deeds - all such people will have their reward with their Lord, and there will be no reason for them to fear, nor shall they grieve.

Atleat do these 3 things

 

[Ryan]

Nvm,

I thought this was an old thread, where I use to debate Muslims when I was Christian.

R u a Muslim now?

 

[Deleted member 13094]

Surely, those who believed in Allah, and those who are Jews, and Christians, and Sabians, -whosoever 1) believes in Allah(one God) and 2) in the Last Day, and 3) does good deeds - all such people will have their reward with their Lord, and there will be no reason for them to fear, nor shall they grieve.

Atleat do these 3 things

what must i do to convert ? do i just be like i'm muslim now or do i have to go to a iman or smth

 

[JackSparrow]

R u a Muslim now?

Nah, I've done research on Islam tho recently, it'll take a while before I make that decision, as I don't want to blindly follow a religion.