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It has come to my attention that the Islamic faith and it's social laws and regulations isn't always appriciated. Everyone can have their disagreements, but to disagree/critisize something there must be a correct understanding of the matter. There are users that i won't name that uses the foulest language against Islam, the religious tenants, the clothing, etc.
The biggest argument against my faith and other abrahamic religions is that it must be a coping mechanism. The same argument can be used against people with hedonist views.
The tought of an eternal hellfire or the concept of afterlife where your actions and beliefs hold value is not something people want to be bothered with hence people don't find appeal in it.
furthermore a beliefsystem that helps you achieve your biological needs can't be classified as a cope in my opinion. In the reverse a belief system that denies your biological needs can be classified as a cope.
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The goal of Islam is to preserve
1. The faith itself
2. life
3. wealth
4. The mind
5. Lineage
6. Honor
All the laws and regulations that westerners might not understand or seem draconian in their eyes are that are rational if these points are what you want to preserve.
The Islamic understanding of society is that it formed from bottem up, meaning that individuals form famillies and famillies form the society instead of the west that form their society around the individual.
People are just not built individual minded, the closest ones you find connection with are your relatives that look like you. So laws that preserve this kind of order are not ''barbaric'' but rational. Anything that disturbs a familly unit like adultry is met with the harshest punishments in our societies. Because there is no other way
You can't have an optimal functioning society if the familly units themselvers aren't functioning.
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The wat our civilization is built instead of republicanism/greek democracy on the ethos that came forth with state of Medina. This is what guided the Ottomans, Seljuks and the empires before them.
Instead of ''revealing yourself'' ''showing yourself'' that is valued in today world our understanding emphisises on concealing yourself. Like wearing the veil and Burka or the clothing and behaivor laws that are for men it is something that conceals. The one that is superior is obviously an emphisises on concealing we as Muslims believe that this is a knowledge revealed by Allah to humanity.
In the reverse an emphisises on revealing/showing yourself could have only led to the state humanity is in now where looks is even more important in the society then it would be in normal conditions.Human merit, Marriage and the importance of religious institutions begin to fall appart as society sees no longer the value in a slogan like ''saving yourself for marriage'' instead the value is seen at people who look the best. Because what they reveal and show enforces an ideal to society that what you show brings you prestige. Nothing is more far from the truth. The ones that get prestige did gain it by their looks and not by what they where ''showing''
Critics use arguments like ''Islam is against equallity'' which is false. Islam simply tells that there is no absolute equallity. There will always be exceptions and looks seems to be the biggest of them all yet for the biggest inequallity everyone is treated equal in society because it emphisises CONSEALLING.
People in burka's/headscarves are not living worse in comparisson to when they would ''reveal'' themselves. Once you are revealed every moment in your life will be judgement others place upon you. so the latter is actual the ideal. Showing yourself only to your husband or wife is justice itself. You don't bring yourself to exploitation or exploit the ones who are less fortunate.
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Everything in our civilization is built upon or expanded upon Islamic principles.
From not using imagry but calligrahpy as a way expression to our sultans comming back in nighttime after winning a battle, so the could avoid unnececary ego boosts. You won't find any pictures of Allah or the prophets, no paintings nothing. The only valid way to express prophets was through calligraphy. which is in all essence the opposite of pictures/designing. The knowledge you find is something that is hidden and not revealling.
the same goes for the interior of our buildings, the coins of early sultans
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- FINAL WORDS
In all abrahamic religions you will find in esscence the same what i described here. As Muslims we don't deny this. what we claim is that through time the other scriptures became corrupt when humans started to meddle and change the word of God. I strongly believe and argue that the final word of God is the Kuran el kerim. nothing more nothing less.
even in religion that are further away from the word of God you find that it is actually leading you back towards Islam
Confucian Korean women in veils.
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The biggest argument against my faith and other abrahamic religions is that it must be a coping mechanism. The same argument can be used against people with hedonist views.
The tought of an eternal hellfire or the concept of afterlife where your actions and beliefs hold value is not something people want to be bothered with hence people don't find appeal in it.
furthermore a beliefsystem that helps you achieve your biological needs can't be classified as a cope in my opinion. In the reverse a belief system that denies your biological needs can be classified as a cope.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
The goal of Islam is to preserve
1. The faith itself
2. life
3. wealth
4. The mind
5. Lineage
6. Honor
All the laws and regulations that westerners might not understand or seem draconian in their eyes are that are rational if these points are what you want to preserve.
The Islamic understanding of society is that it formed from bottem up, meaning that individuals form famillies and famillies form the society instead of the west that form their society around the individual.
People are just not built individual minded, the closest ones you find connection with are your relatives that look like you. So laws that preserve this kind of order are not ''barbaric'' but rational. Anything that disturbs a familly unit like adultry is met with the harshest punishments in our societies. Because there is no other way
You can't have an optimal functioning society if the familly units themselvers aren't functioning.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
The wat our civilization is built instead of republicanism/greek democracy on the ethos that came forth with state of Medina. This is what guided the Ottomans, Seljuks and the empires before them.
Instead of ''revealing yourself'' ''showing yourself'' that is valued in today world our understanding emphisises on concealing yourself. Like wearing the veil and Burka or the clothing and behaivor laws that are for men it is something that conceals. The one that is superior is obviously an emphisises on concealing we as Muslims believe that this is a knowledge revealed by Allah to humanity.
In the reverse an emphisises on revealing/showing yourself could have only led to the state humanity is in now where looks is even more important in the society then it would be in normal conditions.Human merit, Marriage and the importance of religious institutions begin to fall appart as society sees no longer the value in a slogan like ''saving yourself for marriage'' instead the value is seen at people who look the best. Because what they reveal and show enforces an ideal to society that what you show brings you prestige. Nothing is more far from the truth. The ones that get prestige did gain it by their looks and not by what they where ''showing''
Critics use arguments like ''Islam is against equallity'' which is false. Islam simply tells that there is no absolute equallity. There will always be exceptions and looks seems to be the biggest of them all yet for the biggest inequallity everyone is treated equal in society because it emphisises CONSEALLING.
People in burka's/headscarves are not living worse in comparisson to when they would ''reveal'' themselves. Once you are revealed every moment in your life will be judgement others place upon you. so the latter is actual the ideal. Showing yourself only to your husband or wife is justice itself. You don't bring yourself to exploitation or exploit the ones who are less fortunate.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Everything in our civilization is built upon or expanded upon Islamic principles.
From not using imagry but calligrahpy as a way expression to our sultans comming back in nighttime after winning a battle, so the could avoid unnececary ego boosts. You won't find any pictures of Allah or the prophets, no paintings nothing. The only valid way to express prophets was through calligraphy. which is in all essence the opposite of pictures/designing. The knowledge you find is something that is hidden and not revealling.
the same goes for the interior of our buildings, the coins of early sultans
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
- FINAL WORDS
In all abrahamic religions you will find in esscence the same what i described here. As Muslims we don't deny this. what we claim is that through time the other scriptures became corrupt when humans started to meddle and change the word of God. I strongly believe and argue that the final word of God is the Kuran el kerim. nothing more nothing less.
even in religion that are further away from the word of God you find that it is actually leading you back towards Islam
Confucian Korean women in veils.
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