Isn’t Russia in the wrong?

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Hello guys, I’m not that into Politics, history.
I wanna ask, why does everyone seem to be siding with Russia, considering they are the invaders and are killing people for no reason. And starting this war randomly, it is so weird.

 

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@TsarTsar444 @Thompsonz @BigBiceps @the BULL @gamma

 

[Deleted member 13332]

Hello guys, I’m not that into Politics, history.
I wanna ask, why does everyone seem to be siding with Russia, considering they are the invaders and are killing people for no reason. And starting this war randomly, it is so weird.

ukraine nazis were killing donetsk people for 8 years
nobody cared

 

[Deleted member 6573]

Ukraine joining NATO is like Canada joining the Shanghai Corporation Act

 

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ukraine nazis were killing donetsk people for 8 years
nobody cared

But two wrongs don’t make a right, and also there will probably be more people killed in this upcoming war

 

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But two wrongs don’t make a right, and also there will probably be more people killed in this upcoming war

fuck what the fuck you talking about? they literaally attacked lnr and dnr positions last weeks wtf should russia do

 

[Prettyboy]

USA to blame. Russia needs a neutral puffer zone (Ukraine) between them and NATO

 

[Sphinx]

What would I get from supporting Ukraine? only loss of T and dopamine. No, I want to support the big dog who will give me the dopamine that I need. You see, If I pretend like I give a shit about the winning side - I'm winning.

@Vermilioncore wager shit.

 

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fuck what the fuck you talking about? they literaally attacked lnr and dnr positions last weeks wtf should russia do

Leave it, because the war is lnr/dnr vs Ukraine, it is not Russia’s fight

 

[CopingThenRoping]

It's low IQ to talk in moral terms, you're limiting yourself to a 2 sided view of things- either "good" or "bad"

 

[Deleted member 13332]

Leave it, because the war is lnr/dnr vs Ukraine, it is not Russia’s fight

you know what is lnr and dnr ? you fucking autist

 

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you know what is lnr and dnr ? you fucking autist

Insurgency in Ukraine?

Relax, I don’t care about this , I just want to know who is actually wrong.

 

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Insurgency in Ukraine?

Relax, I don’t care about this , I just want to know who is actually wrong.

then dont talk you speak nonsense on serious topic
if you dont know history of lnr and dnr , literally no point of talking and you dont have any right to talk about it

 

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then dont talk you speak nonsense on serious topic
if you dont know history of lnr and dnr , literally no point of talking and you dont have any right to talk about it

Then explain to me how Russia is not in the wrong, invading this country, bombing and killing civilians. And what will Russia do to Ukraine?

Just because I’m not knowledgeable on history doesn’t mean I don’t have common sense

 

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obviously

 

[Deleted member 13332]

Then explain to me how Russia is not in the wrong, invading this country, bombing and killing civilians. And what will Russia do to Ukraine?

Just because I’m not knowledgeable on history doesn’t mean I don’t have common sense

you dont even know what lnr and dnr
first you have to read some information about history of this war
i wont write essays

 

[ropemax]

fuck what the fuck you talking about? they literaally attacked lnr and dnr positions last weeks wtf should russia do

You work for russian propaganda

 

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you dont even know what lnr and dnr
first you have to read some information about history of this war
i wont write essays

It is Russians starting a revolution in Russian majority area, that declared independence and formed their own two countries in Donbas.

Tell me why Russia is not wrong to invade

 

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ukraine nazis were killing donetsk people for 8 years

are u russian troll who is paid with copiejki and r00ble or just stupid russian retard?

 

[Deleted member 17244]

You work for russian propaganda

russians will never change. I hope they will die in agony stupid bastards

 

[contributing_autist]

with ukraine, bosnia and herzegovina and some other countries being next in line

does this look like something security and defense based organization would do to you?

the west is just more perfidious than putin here, so it was either a strong move or bona fide capitulation for him

imagine believing only eastern/communist countries use propaganda to advance their position and spread their influence

 

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russians will never change. I hope they will die in agony stupid bastards

Why is ur name russiancel

 

[hebbewem]

does this look like something security and defense based organization would do to you?

the west is just more perfidious than putin here, so it was either a strong move or bona fide capitulation for him

They joined willingly

 

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Why is ur name russiancel

i have russian roots in my family but im polish in 90% and even cant speak russian

 

[contributing_autist]

They joined willingly

who said they were forced to do it? obviously they weren't (at least not conventionally, but via implicit threats with political, diplomatic and economic consequences) since it would be a breach of international law not even americans could get away with

why is nato even expanding considering its purpose (on paper)? what business do USA, UK or Canada have in fucking Ukraine except to come close to Russia, circle them, cut them off from their interest/influence zone and get heavy artillery right on their border

and, surprise, surprise:

Ukraine has extremely rich and complementary mineral resources in high concentrations and close proximity to each other. The country has abundant reserves of coal, iron ore, natural gas, manganese, salt, oil, graphite, sulfur, kaolin, titanium, nickel, magnesium, timber, and mercury.

 

[anticel]

both russia and usa have economic interests in ukraine with russia having stronger historical ties. If Russia let Ukraine go to the West they would lose lots of power so that was never an option. The West could have avoided the conflict if they ensured that Ukraine would stay neutral.

good video on the topic eventho it's a bit old.

 

[RazerGlazer]

russia is taking back what what they had in the past

 

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"Who's wrong"

 

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Ukraine wants to be a western NATO sex slave they got what was coming

 

[Harold O'brien]

Two weeks ago, I wrote an analysis of Russian strategy titled “Russia’s Move.” Here’s a brief recap: When the Soviet Union collapsed, it lost control of the western borderlands that had been the bedrock of its security for hundreds of years. Those borderlands created a strategic depth that forced invaders into an extended and exhausting campaign that Russia could resist. Russia had been attacked in the 18th century by the Swedes, in the 19th century by France, and twice in the 20th century by Germany. There had also been wars with Turkey in the 18th and 19th centuries. In 1991, these borderland regions became independent, and from the Russian point of view, the West generally and the United States specifically sought to control the newly formed states. This constituted nothing less than an existential threat to Russia.

A few days after “Russia’s Move,” I wrote a piece called “Intelligence and Love,” in which I argued that to defeat an enemy you must objectively understand how they see themselves. And for its part, Russia sees itself as vulnerable, particularly from the west, where the most dangerous threats have historically originated. Belarus and Ukraine are the heart of Russian fears. The Ukrainian border is only a few hundred miles from Moscow and is therefore a major threat when in the hands of enemies. Distance will not wear down an enemy attacking from there. From the Russian point of view, the unwillingness of the United States to recognize these deep-seated fears suggests the United States has aggressive and dangerous designs. The only imaginable value Belarus and Ukraine hold for the Americans is to put Russia in a position where it must capitulate to the United States on all critical matters – or risk an outright invasion. Where the United States has no overriding interests, Russia has existential ones.

Russia must therefore act. In Belarus, it already has. Last year, President Alexander Lukashenko won a dubious and heavily criticized election. The Russians intervened to save Lukashenko and are now in effective control of Belarus, thereby securing the North European Plain, the primary invasion route from Europe to Moscow. This leaves Ukraine, a much larger and more important state, in Russia’s crosshairs.

 

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"Who's wrong"

I want to know who’s in the wrong, what’s wrong with that? I don’t understand this mindless, non-NT spamming of reacts

 

[incel194012940]

Ukraine = Illuminati

 

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russia is taking back what what they had in the past

Ukraine wants to be a western NATO sex slave they got what was coming

Do you have a source? An actual argument? Anything?

 

[Deleted member 15338]

I want to know who’s in the wrong, what’s wrong with that? I don’t understand this mindless, non-NT spamming of reacts

You are just another autist who thinks it is nt to be a fucking retard lmao fuck off

 

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Two weeks ago, I wrote an analysis of Russian strategy titled “Russia’s Move.” Here’s a brief recap: When the Soviet Union collapsed, it lost control of the western borderlands that had been the bedrock of its security for hundreds of years. Those borderlands created a strategic depth that forced invaders into an extended and exhausting campaign that Russia could resist. Russia had been attacked in the 18th century by the Swedes, in the 19th century by France, and twice in the 20th century by Germany. There had also been wars with Turkey in the 18th and 19th centuries. In 1991, these borderland regions became independent, and from the Russian point of view, the West generally and the United States specifically sought to control the newly formed states. This constituted nothing less than an existential threat to Russia.

A few days after “Russia’s Move,” I wrote a piece called “Intelligence and Love,” in which I argued that to defeat an enemy you must objectively understand how they see themselves. And for its part, Russia sees itself as vulnerable, particularly from the west, where the most dangerous threats have historically originated. Belarus and Ukraine are the heart of Russian fears. The Ukrainian border is only a few hundred miles from Moscow and is therefore a major threat when in the hands of enemies. Distance will not wear down an enemy attacking from there. From the Russian point of view, the unwillingness of the United States to recognize these deep-seated fears suggests the United States has aggressive and dangerous designs. The only imaginable value Belarus and Ukraine hold for the Americans is to put Russia in a position where it must capitulate to the United States on all critical matters – or risk an outright invasion. Where the United States has no overriding interests, Russia has existential ones.

Russia must therefore act. In Belarus, it already has. Last year, President Alexander Lukashenko won a dubious and heavily criticized election. The Russians intervened to save Lukashenko and are now in effective control of Belarus, thereby securing the North European Plain, the primary invasion route from Europe to Moscow. This leaves Ukraine, a much larger and more important state, in Russia’s crosshairs.

What’s silly about this is that we are in 2022, it’s not about invasions from the west anymore. I thought we had all got Past this silly business

 

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Do you have a source? An actual argument? Anything?

That’s literally the reason Putin invaded. It makes sense as I’d be pissed if my neighbor was a western puppet that stores Americas nukes

 

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You are just another autist who thinks it is nt to be a fucking retard lmao fuck off

What? So because I care about women and children struggling under bridges, sheltering, many innocent civilians dying in pain, I’m a “fucking retard”? You are so disconnected , and it shows.

 

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What? So because I care about women and children struggling under bridges, sheltering, many innocent civilians dying in pain, I’m a “fucking retard”? You are so disconnected , and it shows.

What an irony lmfao

 

[188centimetres]

Russia claims Ukraine was the aggressor in Donbas which is false. Russia just needed a pretext to execute an invasion that has been scheduled for months. Putin is bored in the Kremlin so he wants to use his authoritarian powers to flex on everyone else.

 

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What an irony lmfao

Where’s is the irony?

 

[Deleted member 15338]

Where’s is the irony?

You are a projecting wannabe NT autist like %99 of the userbase here, you guys are so pathetic

 

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fuck what the fuck you talking about? they literaally attacked lnr and dnr positions last weeks wtf should russia do

Why would they attack? Don’t they know that would give Russia a reason to attack and then they would be destroyed?

 

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Why would they attack? Don’t they know that would give Russia a reason to attack and then they would be destroyed?

Murican puppets do what their master says

 

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You are a projecting wannabe NT autist like %99 of the userbase here, you guys are so pathetic

You are an edgy teenage NPC like 99% of the user base here

 

[Deleted member 15748]

tbh Russia is a shit hole, even worse than the west. It has violence, corruption, alcoholism, human trafficking, low trust people. Maybe Russia is getting bullied by the west a bit but it is just a shit country, less influence it has the better. I think the worst part of Russia is this fkin foreign investment shit. Just confiscate all the Russian owned properties in London, New York etc etc.

 

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You are an edgy teenage NPC like 99% of the user base here

Nah not at all i am sure i am more nt than you you weirdo, you browse reddit all day and think average man thinks like them lmfao

 

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That’s literally the reason Putin invaded. It makes sense as I’d be pissed if my neighbor was a western puppet that stores Americas nukes

maybe from his perspective he is looking after his interest, fine, but why do YOU support him? Russia is a shithole. Just corruption and alcoholism. West has problems, but Russia is worse.

 

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IF Russia is so great why are all the women coming to work in the UK as prostitutes?

 

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Nah not at all i am sure i am more nt than you you weirdo, you browse reddit all day and think average man thinks like them lmfao

“You weirdo”

Stop trying to be nt , u are hard failing

 

[Deleted member 15067]

maybe from his perspective he is looking after his interest, fine, but why do YOU support him? Russia is a shithole. Just corruption and alcoholism. West has problems, but Russia is worse.

Both places are shitholes and idc about any of them. But I understand russias point of view