It is IMPOSSIBLE to be poor and high IQ. If you are poor, you are likely below average or low IQ.

[sibience]

Take the IQ blackpill.

Of course if a person is rich, it does not mean that they are high IQ. Many low IQ singers, celebrities, famous sports players.... are wealthy (although the wealth probably won't last long and will be gone in the next generation).


Guys on .org think their IQ is high, yet most users here are poor and can't even afford surgery.

If you are high IQ, your parents would also very likely be high IQ (IQ is highly heritable). And in modern times, there are just too many legal opportunities to make good money for someone with even decent IQ, not even necessarily high. It isn't thousands of years ago when IQ didn't matter nearly as much as now. A high IQ person easily has the choice of being a surgeon, top engineer, investment banker, research scientist, professor at a good school, anything except for being poor.

Especially with the internet existing and the ability for anyone to develop software, it is even easier for a high IQ person to get wealthy.

I wouldn't consider myself high IQ, although I know I am very above average IQ. My dad is a manager at a top paying tech company and my mom is a VP (I know VP at bank is not impressive) at top bank. My parents own multiple homes, they are worth a lot now.

This site is always obsessed with looks. But the IQ blackpill might be even more brutal and hard to accept.

 

[Deleted member 21182]

Incel user who got 120 on iq test and needs that to cope detected

 

[Deleted member 25119]

Of course, if someone has limited access to education due to being poor, it may impact their IQ.

 

[sibience]

Incel user who got 120 on iq test and needs that to cope detected

IQ tests are dumb and inaccurate.

Being very good at programming is a sign of at least decent IQ, as anyone with decent IQ will gravitate towards it. It is hard to find mathematicians who can't program.

 

[sibience]

Of course, if someone has limited access to education due to being poor, it may impact their IQ.

Did you read the post? Someone with a decent IQ wouldn't be poor. It just can't really happen even when the economy is struggling.


And IQ is genetic. When I talk about IQ I am talking about genetics. Just like when users here talk about looks, they are talking about genetics. Practicing puzzles to improve on IQ tests doesn't impact genetic IQ, that's why IQ tests are inaccurate.

And it is 2023 lol, "limited access to education" JFL there are libraries everywhere, and anything can be accessed on the internet.

 

[nordicfoidslayer23]

You’re ignoring how much mental health can affect someone’s success, you can research Terry Davis to find that out, guy was a high iq but lived on the streets

 

[thecel]

And it is 2023 lol, "limited access to education" JFL there are libraries everywhere, and anything can be accessed on the internet.

Awareness = Access.

If you never learned that the blackpill existed, you’d effectively have as much access to blackpill as someone else who doesn’t have electronics: effectively no access.

Parenting. Parents who don’t teach their kids to how to learn and to educate themselves at young ages are effectively reducing their kids’ access to education.

 

[Deleted member 23100]

IQ isn't heritable the way you are portraying here. see Einstein's children, geniuses rarely have children but when they do for some reason they may be complete f-ck ups - there's a reason average exists, if your parents are models you probably won't be as gl as they are

 

[thecel]

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[80iq]

data https://humanvarieties.org/2016/01/31/iq-and-permanent-income-sizing-up-the-iq-paradox/

median income is 70,000$. u see a left skew for higher incomes but for income <= 70k there is not much of a skew. a lot of people just dont put emphasis on wealth. i think this just shows high iq doesn't automatically make u a "smart"/resourceful person - u also have to be hardworking in some ways

 

[thecel]

IQ isn't heritable the way you are portraying here. see Einstein's children, geniuses rarely have children but when they do for some reason they may be complete f-ck ups - there's a reason average exists, if your parents are models you probably won't be as gl as they are

Clearly your IQ is low.

Excerpt from Wikipedia : “Early twin studies of adult individuals have found a heritability of IQ between 57% and 73%, with some recent studies showing heritability for IQ as high as 80%. IQ goes from being weakly correlated with genetics for children, to being strongly correlated with genetics for late teens and adults.”

Geniuses are outliers. A genius might have a 200 IQ despite having a “DNA IQ” of 150. The genius’s kids’ IQs will be about 150.

Regression to the mean.

 

[sibience]

You’re ignoring how much mental health can affect someone’s success, you can research Terry Davis to find that out, guy was a high iq but lived on the streets

Building an OS by yourself just takes a lot of time, it doesn't mean someone is high IQ. But it wouldn't be wrong to assume he is high IQ.

And there are obviously exceptions, of course if someone has very rare terrible schizophrenia then they can end up poor no matter what. What I am saying is generally true in 99.9 percent of normal cases.

 

[Deleted member 23100]

Clearly your IQ is low.

Excerpt from Wikipedia : “Early twin studies of adult individuals have found a heritability of IQ between 57% and 73%, with some recent studies showing heritability for IQ as high as 80%. IQ goes from being weakly correlated with genetics for children, to being strongly correlated with genetics for late teens and adults.”

Geniuses are outliers. A genius might have a 200 IQ despite having a “DNA IQ” of 150. The genius’s kids’ IQs will be about 150.

Regression to the mean.

>57 to 73%
>regression to the mean

yep u are proving my point dude

 

[thecel]

Building an OS by yourself just takes a lot of time, it doesn't mean someone is high IQ. But it wouldn't be wrong to assume he is high IQ.

And there are obviously exceptions, of course if someone has very rare terrible schizophrenia then they can end up poor no matter what. What I am saying is generally true in 99.9 percent of normal cases.


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Ugly or Short = Incel = Shit Mental Health = Poor

 

[thecel]

>57 to 73%
>regression to the mean

yep u are proving my point dude

My point: regression to the mean doesn’t mean IQ isn’t that heritable. Recent studies show 80% heritability. That’s as heritable as height is.

 

[Deleted member 23100]

My point: regression to the mean doesn’t mean IQ isn’t that heritable. Recent studies show 80% heritability. That’s as heritable as height is.

I didn't say that, I say it isn't heritable the way OP thinks. OP thread seems like he truly believes that if you are high-IQ that your children will be as well, and honestly I think if you are 125 to 130~ your children may be 115 at best and this is if you didn't have children with a dumbf-ck foid

 

[sibience]

Parenting. Parents who don’t teach their kids to how to learn and to educate themselves at young ages are effectively reducing their kids’ access to education.

There have been too many adopted identical twin studies that prove this wrong.

Genetics >>>> environment.

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data https://humanvarieties.org/2016/01/31/iq-and-permanent-income-sizing-up-the-iq-paradox/

median income is 70,000$. u see a left skew for higher incomes but for income <= 70k there is not much of a skew. a lot of people just dont put emphasis on wealth. i think this just shows high iq doesn't automatically make u a "smart"/resourceful person - u also have to be hardworking in some ways

My post was not talking about average IQs or slightly above average IQs. It was talking about high IQs.

But again, that study just isn't really accurate, anyone with a 140+ has endless job options to easily make a lot, otherwise they aren't high IQ. IQ tests aren't accurate, which is why a cashier can be good at the IQ puzzles but be shit at math, which is much more accurate indicator of IQ.

 

[sibience]

I didn't say that, I say it isn't heritable the way OP thinks. OP thread seems like he truly believes that if you are high-IQ that your children will be as well, and honestly I think if you are 125 to 130~ your children may be 115 at best and this is if you didn't have children with a dumbf-ck foid

How is 130 IQ high? That is 2 standard deviations.

That isn't even top 1 percent.

Just like how if you go outside, less than 1% of guys (even controlled for age) are truly goodlooking (chads).

 

[Deleted member 23100]

How is 130 IQ high? That is 2 standard deviations.

That isn't even top 1 percent.

Just like how if you go outside, less than 1% of guys (even controlled for age) are truly goodlooking (chads).

yes, and that's even worse. some countries easily average out 110 and yet the youth isn't any higher than that. when comes to the '1%' then we've problems. one of them is that it isn't supposed to ever be normal biologically that is, it's a mutation, sometimes morphological cerebral abnormalities, and geniuses rarely have children, and when they do, it's rather disappointing, it seems they can't be replicated that 'heritable' way

 

[sibience]

yes, and that's even worse. some countries easily average out 110 and yet the youth isn't any higher than that. when comes to the '1%' then we've problems. one of them is that it isn't supposed to ever be normal biologically that is, it's a mutation, sometimes morphological cerebral abnormalities, and geniuses rarely have children, and when they do, it's rather disappointing, it seems they can't be replicated that 'heritable' way

Yes of course the chance of someone being insanely intelligent due to a genetic mutation is a possibility.

But I think you underestimate how much genetics determines IQ.


For example many basketball players end up being significantly taller than their predicted heights (determined from parent's heights). But usually their parents were still tall and the kid got lucky. And it is also rare to see tall parents produce a significantly shorter child.

Just like with IQ, two geniuses having children will most likely create a genius. Just because they don't make world changing innovation does not mean they can't grasp extremely difficult mathematical concepts in very short time.

 

[Acne Victim]

Unlikely but definitely possible, wtf are you talking about?

 

[flippasav]

This guy man jfl

 

[jerking off in Lidl]

I'm a nigger

 

[HOLYFUARK]

This is a stupid thread, yes iq is indicator of success but it does not mean everyone with high iq can succeed.
I can be high iq but depressed or have no motivation thus become a wagie.

 

[sibience]

Unlikely but definitely possible, wtf are you talking about?

I'm talking about how there are just too many opportunities that high IQ people just don't end up poor.

This is a stupid thread, yes iq is indicator of success but it does not mean everyone with high iq can succeed.
I can be high iq but depressed or have no motivation thus become a wagie.

It isn't "everyone with high iq can succeed."

Everyone with high IQ WILL and DOES succeed in modern times.

Any high IQ person with low motivation and depression becomes a wagie for a top investment firm or top paying company or doctor. Any high IQ person achieves success just flowing through life, without even trying at all.

If you don't understand this, you are like a bluepilled guy who thinks that Extremely goodlooking chads can end up sexless.

 

[Incellectually_Shy]

Incel user who got 120 on iq test and needs that to cope detected

I generally score in the 130+ range on online tests.

 

[sibience]

I generally score in the 130+ range on online tests.

IQ tests are stupid, it is like measuring attractiveness with facial ratios. If almost all girls think a guy is extremely goodlooking, then he is goodlooking.

How intuitive math is for someone is a decent indicator of IQ. High IQ people are able to derive new mathematics without even having any math education, Ramanujan is a famous example. Children who aren't low IQ don't need to be taught numbers to understand numbers and basic arithmetic.

 

[Incellectually_Shy]

Children who aren't low IQ don't need to be taught numbers to understand numbers and basic arithmetic.

When I was a child, I was never taught basic math for my age by Mother...I learned to use emulators and ROM editing naturally.

 

[sibience]

When I was a child, I was never taught basic math for my age by Mother...I learned to use emulators and ROM editing naturally.

That is good.

I was giving a basic example.

One person at my school many years ago was actually high IQ, he was close to qualifying for the International Olympiad in Informatics even though he started programming many years later than most IOI contestants.

 

[HOLYFUARK]

Everyone with high IQ WILL and DOES succeed in modern times.

No, it is true succesful people tend to have higher iq but the assertion that all high iq people are successful is pure and utter bullshit.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.2466/pr0.1955.1.g.35?journalCode=prxa

Homeless people have same average iq as population .

There is a correlation at best and that's it . You can be high iq and still be on the street.

 

[Meteor21]

If you're lazy or just afraid of taking risks or you have certain types of autism you can be poor and high iq. My friend has an iq of 140 but can't drive a car cause he's too adhd and autistic

Conversely, do you know how many 80-90 iq tradesmen are making bank?

 

[Deleted member 11126]

IQ isn't heritable the way you are portraying here. see Einstein's children, geniuses rarely have children but when they do for some reason they may be complete f-ck ups - there's a reason average exists, if your parents are models you probably won't be as gl as they are

All of Einsteins kids are pretty smart compared to normies. It would be like being born to a billionaire your most likely not outdoing your father in terms of success.

But many of his kids ended up math PHDs how many blue collar parents do you know giving birth to Math PHDs?

 

[sibience]

If you're lazy or just afraid of taking risks or you have certain types of autism you can be poor and high iq. My friend has an iq of 140 but can't drive a car cause he's too adhd and autistic

Just lol. High IQ people can be the laziest and still end up as doctors, engineers, etc. They don't really have to do any studying at all.

99+% of doctors, engineers, lawyers, .... are NOT high IQ. The ones that are did not have to try at all to become one.


Your friend most likely does not have an IQ of 140, and driving a car is not an activity that determines IQ.

Someone with an IQ of 140 can easily become a software engineer at google in 2 weeks to a month, even if they had never programmed before in their life.

 

[sibience]

Conversely, do you know how many 80-90 iq tradesmen are making bank?

Yes I know. Did you read my post? I think most users didn't even read my post they just instantly reject my opinion like how bluepillers immediately reject the blackpill.

Of course if a person is rich, it does not mean that they are high IQ. Many low IQ singers, celebrities, famous sports players.... are wealthy (although the wealth probably won't last long and will be gone in the next generation).

 

[sibience]

No, it is true succesful people tend to have higher iq but the assertion that all high iq people are successful is pure and utter bullshit.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.2466/pr0.1955.1.g.35?journalCode=prxa

Homeless people have same average iq as population .

There is a correlation at best and that's it . You can be high iq and still be on the street.
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People don't understand the concept of IQ.

Doing a puzzle test and determining someone's IQ is like determining someone's attractiveness with facial ratios.


In that study there are supposedly a decent amount of 130+ IQ people that have very low income. Which means that those people are NOT high IQ, they just did decent on some retarded IQ tests which are puzzles at best and anyone can easily improve at IQ tests.

While high IQ people can easily learn difficult math or other logical concepts extremely quickly and easily, while average IQ people are not able to even in years.

High IQ people can easily learn any difficulty of math and easily become a top software engineer in a month with no previous experience. Math is extremely intuitive for high IQ individuals, look at someone like Ramanujan.

 

[SoundnVision]

I'm thick as shit

 

[sibience]

I'm thick as shit

 

[_MVP_]

Hmm, im high IQ but cannot get rich, AS ITS too hard?

 

[Meteor21]

Just lol. High IQ people can be the laziest and still end up as doctors, engineers, etc. They don't really have to do any studying at all.

99+% of doctors, engineers, lawyers, .... are NOT high IQ. The ones that are did not have to try at all to become one.


Your friend most likely does not have an IQ of 140, and driving a car is not an activity that determines IQ.

Someone with an IQ of 140 can easily become a software engineer at google in 2 weeks to a month, even if they had never programmed before in their life.

Well from this I can deduce your iq is nowhere remotely close to 140

 

[sibience]

Well from this I can deduce your iq is nowhere remotely close to 140

From this I can deduce that you still have not read my original post, because I literally said that I'm NOT high IQ in the post.

And my reply to yours was just the truth. I know it is hard to accept, but I thought "blackpilled" guys can accept it.

Users here don't understand how little effort a high IQ individual needs to become a top engineer, because guys on here never have known someone who is high IQ.

 

[sibience]

Hmm, im high IQ but cannot get rich, AS ITS too hard?

You are in a psych ward while high IQ guys your age are getting approached by many companies and research firms to do high IQ work or machine learning research for very high pay.

 

[Meteor21]

From this I can deduce that you still have not read my original post, because I literally said that I'm NOT high IQ in the post.

And my reply to yours was just the truth. I know it is hard to accept, but I thought "blackpilled" guys can accept it.

Users here don't understand how little effort a high IQ individual needs to become a top engineer, because guys on here never have known someone who is high IQ.

Calling your opinion the truth doesnt make it so, retard

 

[sibience]

Calling your opnion the truth doesnt make it so, retard

Some things I said were opinion.

But a lot of what I am saying is mostly true - if you saw how easily a high IQ individual understands and can apply new difficult concepts, you would be IQ blackpilled. It only takes a few hours for a high IQ 10 year old to learn an entire college calculus course.

Just like how a guy who goes clubbing with a true chad will get blackpilled.

 

[stevielake]

My IQ is 86

 

[Splinter901]

brag thread, get cancer faggot

 

[Crusile]

Someone with an IQ of 140 can easily become a software engineer at google in 2 weeks to a month, even if they had never programmed before in their life.

Seems legit

 

[Crusile]

Clearly your IQ is low.

Excerpt from Wikipedia : “Early twin studies of adult individuals have found a heritability of IQ between 57% and 73%, with some recent studies showing heritability for IQ as high as 80%. IQ goes from being weakly correlated with genetics for children, to being strongly correlated with genetics for late teens and adults.”

Geniuses are outliers. A genius might have a 200 IQ despite having a “DNA IQ” of 150. The genius’s kids’ IQs will be about 150.

Regression to the mean.

Genotypic IQ doesn't exist https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2023/04/29/33458/