It is only betabuxxing if he is poor

[Jason Voorhees]

I often see teenagers driving the narrative that all provider roles are betabuxxing. I completely disagree Wealth can absolutely create genuine attraction beyond money. It creates status, security, excitement. For the rich it's not transactional it's symbiotic with him holding the reins. It is not betabuxxing by definition

Betabuxxing means a guy desperately trading his limited resources for scraps of attention or affection. But when you're rich? It's a different story. Real wealth is power amplification, not desperation.

For the average or poor guy, providing financially comes from a place of scarcity. He's got limited options, so he imvests to lock down a relationship. This is what is classic betabuxxing you're the wallet, she's the prize. It reeks of neediness because your resources are finite and you're depleting them to win her.

Now enter the rich man.His wealth isn't a crutch it's a multiplier. He enters a relationship with abundance. He has endless options, social proof, and lifestyle perks that women chase. He's not buying love if anything he's enhancing an already stacked deck and He has the power sets the terms because he can walk away without a dent. Desperation is the key thing seperating them. A rich man entering a relationship with a woman who wants to integrate into his lifestyle of excess isn't betabuxxing at all.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@mcmentalonthemic @Klasik616 @SplashJuice @Nexom @BigBallsLarry

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@Swarthy Knight @Elegant @Big Daddy

 

[Klasik616]

Both are.
But the rich dude buys Hermès every time she wants, while the poor dude takes her on multiple dates.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Both are.
But the rich dude buys Hermès every time she wants, while the poor dude takes her on multiple dates.

Both are fundamentally different. They are both providers sure but the dynamics are different.

The rich dude dropping on Hermès is pocket change. It's not "buying" her it's flexing from abundance. He could buy ten more tomorrow and not care. She's the one auditioning to stay in his world, not the other way around. One is a beggar throwing crumbs hoping for scraps.
The other is a king tossing gold because it amuses him.

 

[FutureSlayer]

I do agree but it's an extremely dangerous narrative as the majority of people reading this will think they're that guy and they will get exploited

 

[romanstock]

Is that what your gf told you? 'It's so hot when you take me shopping like a REAL man, you're such a good leader baby'

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@Swarthy Knight @karmacita901 @vernier

 

[Klasik616]

Is that what your gf told you? 'It's so hot when you take me shopping like a REAL man, you're such a good leader baby'

He's a well known betabuxx who maxxes out his status, his status gave him women.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Is that what your gf told you? 'It's so hot when you take me shopping like a REAL man, you're such a good leader baby'

What a braindead comment.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

He's a well known betabuxx who maxxes out his status, his status have him women.

Dont try to shoehorn me in this thread trying to make it personal. Argue with points in the thread also no. I have only bought two gifts for my gf from Christmas that's it.

 

[Klasik616]

Dont try to shoehorn me in this thread trying to make it personal. Argue with points in the thread also no. I have only bought two gifts for my gf from Christmas that's it.

But do you admit your status or success is the main factor that attracts women rather than your looks?

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@Nexom @imontheloose

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

I disagree, it is desperation. Nobody wants a girl to only be with him for the money, even if you're giving a sliver of your networth to a woman, 200,000 out of billions, you're still betabuxxing, it's out of desperation.
When a man accepts it's over and stops paying with his looks and persoNaliTy, and starts paying with his wallet, no matter how big, that's betabuxxing

 

[Jason Voorhees]

I disagree, it is desperation. Nobody wants a girl to only be with him for the money, even if you're giving a sliver of your networth to a woman, 200,000 out of billions, you're still betabuxxing, it's out of desperation.
When a man accepts it's over and stops paying with his looks and persoNaliTy, and starts paying with his wallet, no matter how big, that's betabuxxing

True desperation is the broke guy emptying his account because he needs her to stay losing that investment cripples him. The billionaire dropping 200k on a whim? That's not desperation that's entertainment. He's not accepting it's over he's leveraging his empire to pull top-tier women who orbit his status, lifestyle, and power, not just the cash.. She knows he can replace her instantly, so she's the one performing. Betabuxxing requires scarcity mindset and fear of loss the rich man has neither.

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

True desperation is the broke guy emptying his account because he needs her to stay losing that investment cripples him. The billionaire dropping 200k on a whim? That's not desperation that's entertainment. He's not accepting it's over he's leveraging his empire to pull top-tier women who orbit his status, lifestyle, and power, not just the cash.. She knows he can replace her instantly, so she's the one performing. Betabuxxing requires scarcity mindset and fear of loss the rich man has neither.

It doesn't matter how many woman a danny devito clone billionaire can buy, if he buys them for love and marriage, it's betabuxxing
You're telling me jeff bezos wasn't a beta buxxer?

 

[Jason Voorhees]

It doesn't matter how many woman a danny devito clone billionaire can buy, if he buys them for love and marriage, it's betabuxxing
You're telling me jeff bezos wasn't a beta buxxer?

Nobody gets "bought" for love alone women chose men for a mix of status, power, security and excitement . A Danny DeVitonlookalike rich dude isn't betabuxxing he's wielding leverage that ugly broke dudes can only dream of.

He can have top tier women line up to enter his world, compete for his commitment because the alternative is dropping from private jets to economy class. Jeff Bezos is actually the prime example of winning. Post-divorce, he pulled Lauren Sánchez who was hotter and younger than MacKenzie without blinking, while his ex got cash but none of the Bezos empire access. He never lost frame paid the divorce toll, kept the power, and upgraded effortlessly. That's not beta at all that's the apex provider dominating the game with his immense wealth and power

 

[SplashJuice]

Real beta buxxing is prostitution with extra steps like you only got that girl not because of looks or status but because you have some money lying around, and it took a huge chunk of your monthly paycheque to maintain. I think that's why I'm fine with visiting whores TBH, it's not too different to the next best option if I had family connections which is beta buxxing

 

[SplashJuice]

Nobody gets "bought" for love alone women chose men for a mix of status, power, security and excitement . A Danny DeVitonlookalike rich dude isn't betabuxxing he's wielding leverage that ugly broke dudes can only dream of.

He can have top tier women line up to enter his world, compete for his commitment because the alternative is dropping from private jets to economy class. Jeff Bezos is actually the prime example of winning. Post-divorce, he pulled Lauren Sánchez who was hotter and younger than MacKenzie without blinking, while his ex got cash but none of the Bezos empire access. He never lost frame paid the divorce toll, kept the power, and upgraded effortlessly. That's not beta at all that's the apex provider dominating the game with his immense wealth and power

Yup everything is a transaction. Real love is a hoax. Not only for love but friendships, alliances heck even family was a transaction, most parents have children for legacy , purpose and financial reasons not out of pure love for their kids,. Only agape (charity) is the real love and imo it comes mixed with other shit not purely on its own.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@Aryan Incel

 

[Orka]

I often see teenagers driving the narrative that all provider roles are betabuxxing. I completely disagree Wealth can absolutely create genuine attraction beyond money. It creates status, security, excitement. For the rich it's not transactional it's symbiotic with him holding the reins. It is not betabuxxing by definition

Betabuxxing means a guy desperately trading his limited resources for scraps of attention or affection. But when you're rich? It's a different story. Real wealth is power amplification, not desperation.

For the average or poor guy, providing financially comes from a place of scarcity. He's got limited options, so he imvests to lock down a relationship. This is what is classic betabuxxing you're the wallet, she's the prize. It reeks of neediness because your resources are finite and you're depleting them to win her.

Now enter the rich man.His wealth isn't a crutch it's a multiplier. He enters a relationship with abundance. He has endless options, social proof, and lifestyle perks that women chase. He's not buying love if anything he's enhancing an already stacked deck and He has the power sets the terms because he can walk away without a dent. Desperation is the key thing seperating them. A rich man entering a relationship with a woman who wants to integrate into his lifestyle of excess isn't betabuxxing at all.

It isn't

by my own definition, betabuxxing is just when you have zero appealing attributes outside of your financial status

Ex.

Eugene

Looks: 0
Height: 0
Finance: 10
Status: 5
gives his wife a $10,000 weekly allowance

is more of a betabuxxer than

Matthew

Looks: 6
Height: 8
Finance: 7
Status: 5
gives his wife a $50,000 weekly allowance

Even though Eugene spends less money than Matthew on his wife, he's more of a betabuxxer since he has nothing else to compensate with

 

[Jason Voorhees]

It isn't

by my own definition, betabuxxing is just when you have zero appealing attributes outside of your financial status

Ex.

Eugene
View attachment 4502172
Looks: 0
Height: 0
Finance: 10
Status: 5
gives his wife a $10,000 weekly allowance

is more of a betabuxxer than

Matthew
View attachment 4502174
Looks: 6
Height: 8
Finance: 7
Status: 5
gives his wife a $50,000 weekly allowance

Even though Eugene spends less money than Matthew on his wife, he's more of a betabuxxer since he has nothing else to compensate with

Indeed

 

[optimisticzoomer]

How is this any different to having friends who are around you because you’re rich and pay for everything?

 

[Swarthy Knight]

I agree. The difference between betabux and rich guy "genuinely" attracting woman is that the rich guy can provide her with this glamorous lifestyle (i.e fancy baecations) on top whatever else he already has to offer. Meanwhile beta just relies on using his wallet to have any appeal and ends up getting used for his resources

With that be said, do you think your current self could afford to do that if you wanted to @Jason Voorhees

 

[Jason Voorhees]

How is this any different to having friends who are around you because you’re rich and pay for everything?

It's different because romantic/sexual relationships aren't friendships. The women trade youth, beauty for a man's resources, status, and protection. It's a biological deal

 

[Swarthy Knight]

It isn't

by my own definition, betabuxxing is just when you have zero appealing attributes outside of your financial status

Ex.

Eugene
View attachment 4502172
Looks: 0
Height: 0
Finance: 10
Status: 5
gives his wife a $10,000 weekly allowance

is more of a betabuxxer than

Matthew
View attachment 4502174
Looks: 6
Height: 8
Finance: 7
Status: 5
gives his wife a $50,000 weekly allowance

Even though Eugene spends less money than Matthew on his wife, he's more of a betabuxxer since he has nothing else to compensate with

Idk if .org rotted my brain or what but 6 seems somewhat generous for Matthew But I agree with the message

 

[FutureSlayer]

It isn't

by my own definition, betabuxxing is just when you have zero appealing attributes outside of your financial status

Ex.

Eugene
View attachment 4502172
Looks: 0
Height: 0
Finance: 10
Status: 5
gives his wife a $10,000 weekly allowance

is more of a betabuxxer than

Matthew
View attachment 4502174
Looks: 6
Height: 8
Finance: 7
Status: 5
gives his wife a $50,000 weekly allowance

Even though Eugene spends less money than Matthew on his wife, he's more of a betabuxxer since he has nothing else to compensate with

Yet nobody would identify themselves with the first guy This is why spreading this stuff is an infohazard and dangerous, it keeps hypergamy hamstering. Don't pay anything should be the bp principle to spread all over social media imo

 

[Jason Voorhees]

I agree. The difference between betabux and rich guy "genuinely" attracting woman is that the rich guy can provide her with this glamorous lifestyle (i.e fancy baecations) on top whatever else he already has to offer. Meanwhile beta just relies on using his wallet to have any appeal and ends up getting used for his resources

With that be said, do you think your current self could afford to do that if you wanted to @Jason Voorhees

No. That level of wealth is hard to achieve for most people. I still have to work a job, pay taxes and worry about expenses

 

[optimisticzoomer]

It's different because romantic/sexual relationships aren't friendships. The women trade youth, beauty for a man's resources, status, and protection. It's a biological deal

Can’t relate

 

[Orka]

Idk if .org rotted my brain or what but 6 seems somewhat generous for Matthew But I agree with the message

I needed a visual, you can imagine your own version of a 6/10 to replace matthew if you'd like

oh yeah... keep thinking about hot sexy men... mmphh~

 

[Swarthy Knight]

oh yeah... keep thinking about hot sexy men... mmphh~

I already think of myself enough ty very much

 

[Orka]

I already think of myself enough ty very much

i think of swarthy knight too

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Explain the jfl react @imontheloose

 

[Foreverbrad]

Looksmaxxing is betabuxxing because you are financially crippling yourself from a place of scarcity in order to get female approval.

 

[GonorrhoeaGobbler]

money is an amplifier,
if she is already attracted to you then it will improve the relationship,
for example you can grow closer because of the unique experiences you can grant her with money such a nice holiday

 

[coolman985]

I often see teenagers driving the narrative that all provider roles are betabuxxing. I completely disagree Wealth can absolutely create genuine attraction beyond money. It creates status, security, excitement. For the rich it's not transactional it's symbiotic with him holding the reins. It is not betabuxxing by definition

Betabuxxing means a guy desperately trading his limited resources for scraps of attention or affection. But when you're rich? It's a different story. Real wealth is power amplification, not desperation.

For the average or poor guy, providing financially comes from a place of scarcity. He's got limited options, so he imvests to lock down a relationship. This is what is classic betabuxxing you're the wallet, she's the prize. It reeks of neediness because your resources are finite and you're depleting them to win her.

Now enter the rich man.His wealth isn't a crutch it's a multiplier. He enters a relationship with abundance. He has endless options, social proof, and lifestyle perks that women chase. He's not buying love if anything he's enhancing an already stacked deck and He has the power sets the terms because he can walk away without a dent. Desperation is the key thing seperating them. A rich man entering a relationship with a woman who wants to integrate into his lifestyle of excess isn't betabuxxing at

Agreed

 

[White_Bwoi]

COPE!

RAW attraction >>>>>>>>> every form of compensating for lack of gl face/height/NT/

*agree that rich guy is less of a betabuxx than normal dude who is providing for her
*women inherently seek 'safety' (bearing children), so they 'optimize' for that when they want to settle and rot

 

[uksucks]

Betabuxing is a spectrum not binary

And I agree

Also if someone is rich and decent looking such that a girl could be attracted to their looks, but looks alone they wouldn't date them as they have better options or are non NT, then that shouldn't be considered betabuxing, (although it technically is), it's actually life mogging

Betabuxing = not attracted to him at all

Or

The woman is a financial liability and affects what he could do moneywise as he isn't rich enough.

 

[imontheloose]

Explain the jfl react @imontheloose

Impressive level of detail

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Impressive level of detail

You don't react the threads you should but jfl react the ones that you shouldn't

 

[imontheloose]

You don't react the threads you should but jfl react the ones that you shouldn't

This is a heinous allegation

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

you cant betabuxx if youre not a beta simple as that