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devoted religious people might find this thread and my way of thinking to be wrong or even blasphemous, however I would like to state that I mean utmost respect to Christianity and God. I would consider myself religious and a true believer in God.
First of all let me start by saying, that in recent weeks I became very interested in the topic of the powers of human minds, of God and of what we probably consider divine guidance. Go into this thread with an open mind and you might learn to truly succeed in life.
The power of the human mind:
I recommend to read through this thread https://looksmax.org/threads/the-on...traction-glitch-that-few-people-know.1984756/ by @leF where he writes about changing your reality with your mind
the method described there could, in my opinion be connected to several phenomena: Placebo (for le science atheists), Manifesting (for witchy foid groups) and for God (for religioncels). Even the phrase "fake it till you make it" is basically the same thing. (Some devoted funk musicians also treat "the funk" the same with which I agree to some extent but noone here is qualified to talk about that part)
I like to say that these are all the same concept. "Manifesting is placebo because it only works because you believe it" yeah bro thats the point.
The same thing could be said about praying to God. "If you pray to God you're just manifesting" or "If you pray to God it can only work via placebo"
Its all the same concept
God:
the GOAT
We already established that the concept of "placebo" ie something being real because you believe it, is basically the power of God.
Some will call it blasphemy to say that the power of God is the power of your mind, but I think I'm a rare 100% full believer in God which is a bit rare nowadays so he might just like me (jfl)
I've always believed in placebo and advocated for placeboing yourself into anything you want to achieve and convincing yourself you're already there, because if you truly believe in it then its a very observable phenomenon. The connection that its also God can only add credibility to it and boost its power.
I recommend to read through this thread https://looksmax.org/threads/the-on...traction-glitch-that-few-people-know.1984756/ by @leF where he writes about changing your reality with your mind
the method described there could, in my opinion be connected to several phenomena: Placebo (for le science atheists), Manifesting (for witchy foid groups) and for God (for religioncels). Even the phrase "fake it till you make it" is basically the same thing. (Some devoted funk musicians also treat "the funk" the same with which I agree to some extent but noone here is qualified to talk about that part)
I like to say that these are all the same concept. "Manifesting is placebo because it only works because you believe it" yeah bro thats the point.
The same thing could be said about praying to God. "If you pray to God you're just manifesting" or "If you pray to God it can only work via placebo"
Its all the same concept
God:
the GOAT
We already established that the concept of "placebo" ie something being real because you believe it, is basically the power of God.
Some will call it blasphemy to say that the power of God is the power of your mind, but I think I'm a rare 100% full believer in God which is a bit rare nowadays so he might just like me (jfl)
I've always believed in placebo and advocated for placeboing yourself into anything you want to achieve and convincing yourself you're already there, because if you truly believe in it then its a very observable phenomenon. The connection that its also God can only add credibility to it and boost its power.
Now the real point of this thread is
Divine Guidance:
a long long time ago in ancient Mesopotamia, way before the Abrahamic religions, there was a period when humanity fell into the biggest state of chaos in history.
The late bronze age collapse (1200 BC) happened. Civilizations fell, people lost everything and entire written languages were destroyed.
This is also the same period when a belief that Gods abandoned humanity became widespread. HOWEVER, it was not remotely similar to how humans lose faith. In fact, the mesopotamian people didn't lose their faith. They all still believed in their Gods, however the masses were collectively convinced that their Gods left them. And the only thing they could consider wasn't new Gods, it wasn't atheism, it was begging the Gods to return to them.
Now, thats cool and all, maybe their golden cow statues just got destroyed in war so thats what they meant?
Most historians would say that it just had to be some kind of metaphor we dont understand.
We can, however look a little deeper.
lets move even further back in human history, to what the people living after the bronze age collapse called "The golden age" and "The age of Gods."
All text documents from this time portray human emotions in a very odd and almost autistic way.
Lets look at the Epic of Gilgamesh and how it evolved over the years:
the 1800 BC version (before the bronze age collapse)
- Gilgamesh's decisions to act are unmediated by inner debate. When faced with the monster Humbaba or the Bull of Heaven, the duo receives direct, external commands from the gods.
- When Gilgamesh mourns his friend Enkidu, he describes it as an external force controlling his body to basically be sad.
- He also turns to the nature around them and describes emotions coming from his physical body parts
the 1200 BC version (after the collapse)
- "My friend Enkidu, whom I loved... shall I not be like him and also lie down, never to rise again?"
- Gilgamesh feels actual, emotional, existential dread.
- !!!!!! Gilgamesh realizes that he can no longer rely on divine commands, resulting in his isolated wandering and ultimate self-reliance. !!!!!!
There are plenty of examples of earlier documents describing direct divine guidance and most of these texts lack any subjectivity or emotion. However after humanity shifts away from gods this all comes into play and seems almost modern.
The late bronze age collapse (1200 BC) happened. Civilizations fell, people lost everything and entire written languages were destroyed.
This is also the same period when a belief that Gods abandoned humanity became widespread. HOWEVER, it was not remotely similar to how humans lose faith. In fact, the mesopotamian people didn't lose their faith. They all still believed in their Gods, however the masses were collectively convinced that their Gods left them. And the only thing they could consider wasn't new Gods, it wasn't atheism, it was begging the Gods to return to them.
Now, thats cool and all, maybe their golden cow statues just got destroyed in war so thats what they meant?
Most historians would say that it just had to be some kind of metaphor we dont understand.
We can, however look a little deeper.
lets move even further back in human history, to what the people living after the bronze age collapse called "The golden age" and "The age of Gods."
All text documents from this time portray human emotions in a very odd and almost autistic way.
Lets look at the Epic of Gilgamesh and how it evolved over the years:
the 1800 BC version (before the bronze age collapse)
- Gilgamesh's decisions to act are unmediated by inner debate. When faced with the monster Humbaba or the Bull of Heaven, the duo receives direct, external commands from the gods.
- When Gilgamesh mourns his friend Enkidu, he describes it as an external force controlling his body to basically be sad.
- He also turns to the nature around them and describes emotions coming from his physical body parts
the 1200 BC version (after the collapse)
- "My friend Enkidu, whom I loved... shall I not be like him and also lie down, never to rise again?"
- Gilgamesh feels actual, emotional, existential dread.
- !!!!!! Gilgamesh realizes that he can no longer rely on divine commands, resulting in his isolated wandering and ultimate self-reliance. !!!!!!
There are plenty of examples of earlier documents describing direct divine guidance and most of these texts lack any subjectivity or emotion. However after humanity shifts away from gods this all comes into play and seems almost modern.
This man is Julian Jaynes and he believes that during the bronze age collapse, humans developed conciousness.
To point back to the epic, Jaynes wrote that the search for Gilgamesh's eternal life in the newer versions is a metaphor for the new conscious mind attempting to cope with the realization of death and the loss of the guiding gods.
He also says that people being guided by personal Gods in 1800 BC wasn't metaphorical and they actually heard a voice
that guided them through their daily lives.
How was this possible?
Their two brains were connected and could speak to each other
Some of you may know that in short, your internal voice and your logical thinking and thoughts come from the left side
of your brain. The right side is completely functional on its own and even processes things the left cant like rhythm and melody. But the right side CAN NOT speak to you. The modern human's right brain works on all the things you consider instinctive, not because it works faster or anything, it just cant explain those things to you like your left brain.
You can read about Jaynes's experiments and proof anywhere on his wikipedia or whatever, Im not gonna get into that.
But if ancient humans had brains that could talk to them fully, why dont people now start off with that?
Well, some of them do. They're called Schizophrenics
Schizophrenics hear a voice in their head that guides them to do something. Now in most cases this convinces them that the CIA wants them to kill themselves, but that's only because that is the norm right now.
a religious man with schizophrenia will be convinced he hears god.
an average man with schizophrenia will be convinced the government is talking to him.
and a peasant from ancient mesopotamia where he's told that the King and Gods speak to them and its completely normal, will hear his King and Gods talking to him.
Jaynes writes that in ancient civilizations, schizophrenia was the norm, it was the voice of god or your complete conciousness guiding you through life.
Thats why when our brains adapted to the chaos of the bronze age collapse, our brains were severed to only think logically and to not be guided by something that couldnt predict the insane trauma causing chaos that happened and affected the entire human race.
But all schizophrenics in the modern age become mental and kill themselves!!!
well, Jaynes also cites an example of a schizo woman who's voices offered her advice on improving her health. She believed that its the government (as I said the average modern person would) but she believed that they were doing it to help their citizens, for which she was grateful (jfl contrast to the average schizo)
There are tons of examples in ancient cultures where people experienced divine guidance that I think are connected to this.
So divine guidance is just schizophrenia and it gives you a pathway to hear your instinctual brain. What about it?
Obviously its not good to be schizophrenic usually, but I doubt there has ever been a schizophrenic person who had this much insight into what the voice would actually be. It usually manifests before you could learn something like this and you just get convinced its the CIA controlling your brain.
However, if someone studied in the topic awakened his schizophrenia while he could also logically think with his left brain and regulate the voice, they would effectively become insanely successful in anything they'd want. Imagine you hear a guiding voice but you also know that you can dismiss it and only use it to manifest the things you do want to happen. That tier of unnatural would make you believe in your mind's power 100 times more and you could effectively manifest anything.
If you learn to manifest right now you probably cant make yourself fly or reverse hypergamy in women, but you could make yourself look a little better and learn something faster.
If an awakened, trained, high iq schizophrenic used his power to manifest he could do things 100 times bigger with just his mind and believing.
Unfortunately, in the modern age, most people can never get schizophrenia, schizophrenic brains are physically wired differently and no matter what kind of trauma or stress you induce you probably can't get audible guidance from God.
You should still listen to your instincts and try to get closer to God whenever you can. But you will probably never hear him audibly
If you are interested you can still try to search for ways to induce schizophrenia since 1/4 of schizophrenics only experience one psychotic attack in their life and never develop full schizophrenia.
To point back to the epic, Jaynes wrote that the search for Gilgamesh's eternal life in the newer versions is a metaphor for the new conscious mind attempting to cope with the realization of death and the loss of the guiding gods.
He also says that people being guided by personal Gods in 1800 BC wasn't metaphorical and they actually heard a voice
that guided them through their daily lives.
How was this possible?
Their two brains were connected and could speak to each other
Some of you may know that in short, your internal voice and your logical thinking and thoughts come from the left side
of your brain. The right side is completely functional on its own and even processes things the left cant like rhythm and melody. But the right side CAN NOT speak to you. The modern human's right brain works on all the things you consider instinctive, not because it works faster or anything, it just cant explain those things to you like your left brain.
You can read about Jaynes's experiments and proof anywhere on his wikipedia or whatever, Im not gonna get into that.
But if ancient humans had brains that could talk to them fully, why dont people now start off with that?
Well, some of them do. They're called Schizophrenics
Schizophrenics hear a voice in their head that guides them to do something. Now in most cases this convinces them that the CIA wants them to kill themselves, but that's only because that is the norm right now.
a religious man with schizophrenia will be convinced he hears god.
an average man with schizophrenia will be convinced the government is talking to him.
and a peasant from ancient mesopotamia where he's told that the King and Gods speak to them and its completely normal, will hear his King and Gods talking to him.
Jaynes writes that in ancient civilizations, schizophrenia was the norm, it was the voice of god or your complete conciousness guiding you through life.
Thats why when our brains adapted to the chaos of the bronze age collapse, our brains were severed to only think logically and to not be guided by something that couldnt predict the insane trauma causing chaos that happened and affected the entire human race.
But all schizophrenics in the modern age become mental and kill themselves!!!
well, Jaynes also cites an example of a schizo woman who's voices offered her advice on improving her health. She believed that its the government (as I said the average modern person would) but she believed that they were doing it to help their citizens, for which she was grateful (jfl contrast to the average schizo)
There are tons of examples in ancient cultures where people experienced divine guidance that I think are connected to this.
So divine guidance is just schizophrenia and it gives you a pathway to hear your instinctual brain. What about it?
Obviously its not good to be schizophrenic usually, but I doubt there has ever been a schizophrenic person who had this much insight into what the voice would actually be. It usually manifests before you could learn something like this and you just get convinced its the CIA controlling your brain.
However, if someone studied in the topic awakened his schizophrenia while he could also logically think with his left brain and regulate the voice, they would effectively become insanely successful in anything they'd want. Imagine you hear a guiding voice but you also know that you can dismiss it and only use it to manifest the things you do want to happen. That tier of unnatural would make you believe in your mind's power 100 times more and you could effectively manifest anything.
If you learn to manifest right now you probably cant make yourself fly or reverse hypergamy in women, but you could make yourself look a little better and learn something faster.
If an awakened, trained, high iq schizophrenic used his power to manifest he could do things 100 times bigger with just his mind and believing.
Unfortunately, in the modern age, most people can never get schizophrenia, schizophrenic brains are physically wired differently and no matter what kind of trauma or stress you induce you probably can't get audible guidance from God.
You should still listen to your instincts and try to get closer to God whenever you can. But you will probably never hear him audibly
If you are interested you can still try to search for ways to induce schizophrenia since 1/4 of schizophrenics only experience one psychotic attack in their life and never develop full schizophrenia.
Moral of the story: If you could develop schizophrenia as a very high IQ and educated on the topic human, you could probably do anything you'd want.
But you probably can't, so just stay close to God, learn to pray/manifest properly and believe in the strength of your mind. It will still bring you closer to your goals and give you a happier life.
But you probably can't, so just stay close to God, learn to pray/manifest properly and believe in the strength of your mind. It will still bring you closer to your goals and give you a happier life.
