It saddens me seeing this forums quality significantly degrade by the day

[milkjar]

It’s been trending for 4 years, and has only been uprising since. I wonder when will the plateau hit

itll plateau when people eventually accept the black pill and stop all this coping, its what happened to the redpill days back on youtube post 2019. Hamza vs Wheatwaffles debates, Gerbert Johnson, gymceling youtubers blah blah blah. These guys all lost traction slowly lost bit by bit after 2021. Now people understand that looks matter the most but they still think that its in their control. Delusions, give it a few more years and theyll realise as that its over

 

[sasha108]

With the handful active now probably very very little

It would be sad if this shit spilled over into other sections. The rating and offtopic sections are random anyway.
I don't think the damage is that huge, since a large percentage of new users are just nigas who ask for a rate and disappear.

 

[bogaboga]

At least org seems to be the only one that has had people from TikTok I don't see as much fag posts on .onl

 

[justinAnomaly]

Whether it’s due to basically all “looksmaxing” techniques being discovered so there’s nothing new to discuss, or the fact most users are bottom of the barrel autists I’m unsure why it has gone so bad.

Obviously due to popularization from TikTok but you’d think the shitty users would die off but it seems the opposite, they thrive and the good ones leave.

I’m not going through my entire history here as it’s irrelevant to my claim but a few know and it’s nothing special, but I feel I’ve experienced and saw enough to judge.

Do you think it’ll ever go back to good or continue degrading?

i think it's cause of the nsfw shitposters, i suggest you to stay in the looksmax/looksmax question subforum, Offtopic is fucked beyind repair

 

[buccalfatremoval]

At least org seems to be the only one that has had people from TikTok I don't see as much fag posts on .onl

Lmao what?

The entire onl base is brought via TikTok advertisements

 

[buccalfatremoval]

i think it's cause of the nsfw shitposters, i suggest you to stay in the looksmax/looksmax question subforum, Offtopic is fucked beyind repair

Not an option

 

[bogaboga]

Lmao what?

The entire onl base is brought via TikTok advertisements

Bro last time I was on there all I saw where high IQ posts and good advice did it also go to other sites?

 

[buccalfatremoval]

Bro last time I was on there all I saw where high IQ posts and good advice did it also go to other sites?

No offense to xan but the user base there is basically just shitty greys here.

Only a few notable users there

 

[justinAnomaly]

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Not an option

hollly, thats alot. You've been on the site for long, did you ascend during this period?

 

[fi93]

Whether it’s due to basically all “looksmaxing” techniques being discovered so there’s nothing new to discuss, or the fact most users are bottom of the barrel autists I’m unsure why it has gone so bad.

Obviously due to popularization from TikTok but you’d think the shitty users would die off but it seems the opposite, they thrive and the good ones leave.

I’m not going through my entire history here as it’s irrelevant to my claim but a few know and it’s nothing special, but I feel I’ve experienced and saw enough to judge.

Do you think it’ll ever go back to good or continue degrading?

Its not that fucking deep, if you really love this forum you're a loser

 

[buccalfatremoval]

hollly, thats alot. You've been on the site for long,

Only been active recently

did you ascend during this period?

Somewhat, puberty.

 

[miserycel]

i think one thing people need to do is consistently update on their ascension progress

i see so many posts of people saying things like “my experience on 123 over the past 6 months”

why not talk about your experiences during it so productive conversations happen more often?

 

[Divineincel]

They literally are and you continue to concern yourself with pseudoscience

You just did and it is rather obvious

Just like phrenology right?

 

[Jason5000]

It would be a bit better if they actually implemented the Suggestions with high upvotes people gave them in the suggestions forum, like a Steroid Source Subforum for example.

 

[Paul.jnxy]

Whether it’s due to basically all “looksmaxing” techniques being discovered so there’s nothing new to discuss, or the fact most users are bottom of the barrel autists I’m unsure why it has gone so bad.

Obviously due to popularization from TikTok but you’d think the shitty users would die off but it seems the opposite, they thrive and the good ones leave.

I’m not going through my entire history here as it’s irrelevant to my claim but a few know and it’s nothing special, but I feel I’ve experienced and saw enough to judge.

Do you think it’ll ever go back to good or continue degrading?

Unc

 

[Paul.jnxy]

It would be a bit better if they actually implemented the Suggestions with high upvotes people gave them in the suggestions forum, like a Steroid Source Subforum for example.

Amazing idea tbh.

 

[Jason5000]

Amazing idea tbh.

it wasnt mine. Buccal came up with it.

 

[Paul.jnxy]

it wasnt mine. Buccal came up with it.

Genius idea. Does not surprise me that buccal came up with it. He is Chad after all.

 

[Greypiller]

Whether it’s due to basically all “looksmaxing” techniques being discovered so there’s nothing new to discuss, or the fact most users are bottom of the barrel autists I’m unsure why it has gone so bad.

Obviously due to popularization from TikTok but you’d think the shitty users would die off but it seems the opposite, they thrive and the good ones leave.

I’m not going through my entire history here as it’s irrelevant to my claim but a few know and it’s nothing special, but I feel I’ve experienced and saw enough to judge.

Do you think it’ll ever go back to good or continue degrading?

me and @afroheadluke are the only two people carrying the forum

 

[mangotimer]

Its because of racebait and the constant porn getting posted its either porn or racebait being posted nowadays the forum gets boring when there is no beef or arguments to have with other users

 

[hax]

I remember when post count meant status.

now unknown 2026cel normies have 20k posts and egos to match while I’ve never even seen them comment outside obvious ragebait and circlejerk threads.

 

[killcry]

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Just like phrenology right?

Yeah this is also complete pseudo-science, but just like harmony, these tacky studies are up to you to extrapolate from, which they could reap meaningful information to plenty of people who know how to do that without being retarded

That's also not phrenology that's physiognomy. You can't see any bumps or contours on her skull, she just happens to resemble the bone structure and the phenotype of the initial depiction. So it seems like you don't have any idea what you're talking about

 

[killcry]

Yeah because a 130° Gonial angle, a 51 esr, a 1.18 midface and a 1.7 Fwhr are cope and doesn matter stupid retard, stop coping ig you have shit harmony jfl

You're translating recession into really tacky values and scales and rankings that appeal to notions that are completely arbitrary, those numbers could be the cause of a number of things not considered by this kind of system so it's best not to take these at face value

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

You're translating recession into really tacky values and scales and rankings that appeal to notions that are completely arbitrary, those numbers could be the cause of a number of things not considered by this kind of system so it's best not to take these at face value

is the most accurate way to see the balance of a face. so tell me, whats more accurate to see the balance of the face? intuition? ik harmony can we flawed sometimes but is the mos accurate way to represent the balance of a face.

 

[killcry]

is the most accurate way to see the balance of a face. so tell me, whats more accurate to see the balance of the face? intuition? ik harmony can we flawed sometimes but is the mos accurate way to represent the balance of a face.

Well if you guys knew how to calculate that I wouldn't be calling it pseudoscience, even though by then it technically still would be. But you guys just throw in a bunch of random ratios and angles into one system without actually thinking about these things

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

Well if you guys knew how to calculate that I wouldn't be calling it pseudoscience, even though by then it technically still would be. But you guys just throw in a bunch of random ratios and angles into one system without actually thinking about these things

random ratios? random angles?
dont you know Facial convexity,nasion,nasomental,total,glabella angle is used for ortho and surgery? just because you dont what a ratio do doesnt make it cope

 

[Frenulum]

Whether it’s due to basically all “looksmaxing” techniques being discovered so there’s nothing new to discuss, or the fact most users are bottom of the barrel autists I’m unsure why it has gone so bad.

Obviously due to popularization from TikTok but you’d think the shitty users would die off but it seems the opposite, they thrive and the good ones leave.

I’m not going through my entire history here as it’s irrelevant to my claim but a few know and it’s nothing special, but I feel I’ve experienced and saw enough to judge.

Do you think it’ll ever go back to good or continue degrading?

you posted 13k posts since april btw

 

[buccalfatremoval]

you posted 13k posts since april btw

Did I say I didn’t?

 

[Frenulum]

Did I say I didn’t?

did i say that you didnt say it?

 

[Aezac]

they thrive and the good ones leave.

Like cockroaches, you can rid of them but they will always come back.

 

[sonic55555]

I called it when @TGUN. got banned the forum would die

 

[killcry]

random ratios? random angles?
dont you know Facial convexity angle is uses for ortho and surgery? just because you dont what a ratio do doesnt make it cope

Dude idk how to get this through your head at this point

Facial convexity can be really helpful yes but when you throw it into systems like this that is supposed to tell you exactly how balanced your skull is or something it makes it just a random assortment of measurements contrived from random studies that aren't used for that purpose

And the weightings and scalings and rankings and tiers are biased and arbitrary

It's contrived and that's why I'm saying it is potentially random because u guys don't think critically about it like this

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

Dude idk how to get this through your head at this point

Facial convexity can be really helpful yes but when you throw it into systems like this that is supposed to tell you exactly how balanced your skull is or something it makes it just a random assortment of measurements contrived from random studies that aren't used for that purpose

well, the majority of ratios are correlated to balance/good proportions so the studys are in fact are for that purpose Looks

 

[GonorrhoeaGobbler]

no LM will only gain popularity it is pushed to control and degrade society

all hopes for this forum and cope it's o v e r delete your acc

 

[killcry]

well, the majority of ratios are correlated to balance/good proportions so the studys are in fact are for that purpose Looks

Yea this is what i mean by arbitrary notions. These things can be correlated to good development but they're still loose and experimental references to points of recession. Why would u have a system comprised of like 50 of these loose assessments with biased weightings. It's tacky and you guys just really need to think more about what you're actually measuring and why and how etc

I used to think people like chronic and ca were astute and well versed when they vaguely mentioned "literature" in their videos when referring to different ratios, but when i realized they were just throwing in a bunch of random assessments from pubmed studies in their already flawed system to fit their biases I immediately lost interest

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

Yea this is what i mean by arbitrary notions. These things can be correlated to good development but they're still loose and experimental references to points of recession. Why would u have a system comprised of like 50 of these loose assessments with biased weightings. It's tacky and you guys just really need to think more about what you're actually measuring and why and how etc

every ratio has a logic behind
can you tell me a example of a biased weigthings in harmony?

 

[killcry]

every ratio has a logic behind
can you tell me a example of a biased weigthings in harmony?

Facial thirds 50 pts
Esr 50 pts
Jaw frontal angle 40 pts

Things of that nature

If you have excessive maxilla height that could make your fwhr, nwhr, iaa, and eme all trend unideal, punishing you further for something that should only be checked once or twice, for example for independant maxilla height and for maxilla height relative to the breadth of the maxilla or rest of the face, instead it is redundantly checked over 4 to 5 times, unjustifiably

 

[buccalfatremoval]

did i say that you didnt say it?

lol good point, just wondered why you mentioned

 

[Panchitosbroncs]

I'm 25cel so I'm lwk part of the problem

 

[Subhuman]

The forum's userbase and humor becomes progressively worse as time goes by

Nothing much we can do about it

 

[buccalfatremoval]

The forum's userbase and humor becomes progressively worse as time goes by

Nothing much we can do about it

Welcome back

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

Facial thirds 50 pts
Esr 50 pts
Jaw frontal angle 40 pts

Things of that nature

If you have excessive maxilla height that could make your fwhr, nwhr, iaa, and eme all trend unideal, punishing you further for something that should only be checked once or twice, for example for independant maxilla height and for maxilla height relative to the breadth of the maxilla or rest of the face, instead it is redundantly checked over 4 to 5 times, unjustifiably

well, because Maxilla height and with is correlated to most whole fucking midface area, fwhr,midface,iaa,nose,lips,canthus dont you think about that?thats why theres to much ratios,because maxilla is correlated to almost all the fucking face

 

[AsceningC]

obv rep farming, but i feel like everything has been discovered already and i mean we have so much resources and guides on here and practically nothing to discuss. This forum is literally just to made to help people but it seems now that people use it to get external validation which is so fucking annoying. And anyway its a good thing that people leave this forum after u bag a foid there is practically no reason to use this site

 

[killcry]

well, because Maxilla height and with is correlated to most whole fucking midface area, fwhr,midface,iaa,nose,lips,canthus dont you think about that?thats why theres to much ratios,because maxilla is correlated to almost all the fucking face

Notice how you’re basing the importance of the maxilla to those ratios? It should be the other way around is the point I’m making

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

Notice how you’re basing the importance of the maxilla to those ratios? It should be the other way around is the point I’m making

well ideal ratios means a good maxilla, they complement each other

 

[killuacel]

what do you mean by the forum quality degrading?

and do you think new users r the reason for this?

not saying i disagree, just wondering

 

[soapbubble]

Looksmax popularity declining is cope

 

[choppedpajeet]

ill give a hot take the lm will never die there will always be something new you cant know all there will always be a new surgery , a new drug or compound a skincar product . but the community will degrade specially with so manyy normies and greys glorifying this forum , and many people adding their org to their bio . Seeing orb edits and er edits should tell u the state . this will only get worse tho i dont see a good future

 

[resting]

you have a point

though, people continue to grow up

things will change

change is a continuity, so is history.

 

[ICXCLuvr]

Whether it’s due to basically all “looksmaxing” techniques being discovered so there’s nothing new to discuss, or the fact most users are bottom of the barrel autists I’m unsure why it has gone so bad.

Obviously due to popularization from TikTok but you’d think the shitty users would die off but it seems the opposite, they thrive and the good ones leave.

I’m not going through my entire history here as it’s irrelevant to my claim but a few know and it’s nothing special, but I feel I’ve experienced and saw enough to judge.

Do you think it’ll ever go back to good or continue degrading?

This shit gets u 60 reps i guess