Discussion It’s impossible for the Christian god to be real

[Deleted member 21182]

If you take into account it is confirmed god is both all good and all powerful

All good defined as what’s best for people you’d have to question the amount of bad that happened in the world in forms of natural disasters many times to religious people

Now when u look at such a thing either god isn’t all good aka he chose to do it

Or he isn’t all powerful so he couldn’t control it from happening

For me that ends the discussion since many natural events throughout history like the earth quake in Lisbon make it impossible

 

[CopiumX]

If you take into account it is confirmed god is both all good and all powerful

All good defined as what’s best for people you’d have to question the amount of bad that happened in the world in forms of natural disasters many times to religious people

Now when u look at such a thing either god isn’t all good aka he chose to do it

Or he isn’t all powerful so he couldn’t control it from happening

For me that ends the discussion since many natural events throughout history like the earth quake in Lisbon make it impossible

There natural disasters to get rid of future people that could destroy the world duh

 

[Deleted member 60483]

No way bro!! You actually debunked it… you’re for sure going into the history books for this post bro holy fuck

 

[Deleted member 16288]

 

[Deleted member 21182]

There natural disasters to get rid of future people that could destroy the world duh

But in the process killing a lot of innocent people

It’s like me going back in time to kill Hitler but end up killing another 100 people in the process

How can I be considered all good?

Ofc the outcome is better than the alternative but I still killed innocent people so I’m not all good

 

[CopiumX]

But in the process killing a lot of innocent people

It’s like me going back in time to kill Hitler but end up killing another 100 people in the process

How can I be considered all good?

Ofc the outcome is better than the alternative but I still killed innocent people so I’m not all good

Hitler is a martyr

 

[Deleted member 21182]

No way bro!! You actually debunked it… you’re for sure going into the history books for this post bro holy fuck

The definition of all good as it is in every language in the bible would require someone to never do bad not even slightly

And all powerful would make it so that if they are all good they would have all the power to protect anything from bad

So yes it is debunked

 

[ElTruecel]

If God real why bad things happen


Bruh legit debunked on the first pages of the Bible. The book legit tells you bad things happen because Eve ate the apple and man fell into sin

 

[Deleted member 21182]

Hitler is a martyr

Even so let’s say he did kill a future villain

If he is all powerful let’s really read into the world here

All powerful means you possess all the possible power

He could’ve done way less damage just excluding the single person

 

[Deleted member 60483]

The definition of all good as it is in every language in the bible would require someone to never do bad not even slightly

And all powerful would make it so that if they are all good they would have all the power to protect anything from bad

So yes it is debunked

u srs think ur the first person to say this or bring it up? Don’t you think if it really debunked anything people would be talking about it?

You’re actually retarded.

 

[ElTruecel]

The definition of all good as it is in every language in the bible would require someone to never do bad not even slightly

And all powerful would make it so that if they are all good they would have all the power to protect anything from bad

So yes it is debunked

What humans define as good doesn’t mean anything some psychopathic retard probably thinks killing homeless people and raping them is moral. But others don’t mortality isn’t defined by random retard humans

 

[Deleted member 21182]

If God real why bad things happen


Bruh legit debunked on the first pages of the Bible. The book legit tells you bad things happen because Eve ate the apple and man fell into sin

You didn’t read the thread

Bad things men make happen is one thing but natural disasters is out of our control

 

[Deleted member 21182]

u srs think ur the first person to say this or bring it up? Don’t you think if it really debunked anything people would be talking about it?

You’re actually retarded.

I am not claiming to be the first but it is a fair argument and people will never deny god since most of the world is religious

But this and many other things make it impossible that the bible interpretation of god is real

Ofc another kind of god is possible maybe one who wants us to think he’s all good or all powerful

 

[Deleted member 67937]

Wow u cracked the code!! Not like everyone doesn't know this argument

 

[Deleted member 21182]

Wow u cracked the code!! Not like everyone doesn't know this argument

I never claimed it was mine but arguing with children is like this

 

[longjohnmong]

Is god not omnipotent if he can't create a square circle?

 

[narcomogs]

Can God create a stone so heavy even he can't lift it?

Imo omnipotence in itself is a paradox.

 

[Deleted member 21182]

Is god not omnipotent if he can't create a square circle?

Can God create a stone so heavy even he can't lift it?

Imo omnipotence in itself is a paradox.

These are other very interesting statements

Truth is either humans back then were likely just making shit up based on faith and knowledge

Or god is real and is lying about his abilities as any super being would

 

[narcomogs]

These are other very interesting statements

Truth is either humans back then were likely just making shit up based on faith and knowledge

Or god is real and is lying about his abilities as any super being would

Imma go with option no. 1

 

[longjohnmong]

These are other very interesting statements

Truth is either humans back then were likely just making shit up based on faith and knowledge

Or god is real and is lying about his abilities as any super being would

Here's my point though: "square circle" is meaningless. It doesn't actually refer to anything. It's just two words smashed together that results in no coherent semantic content. It's just like saying "God can't afddsfgfdsgsdfg." If god can't afddsfgfdsgsdfg, does that make him not omnipotent? No, it doesn't because that's just nonsense, but so is "square circle" nonsense. It's just a bit harder to see because it sounds like it might mean something. "A rock so heavy he can't lift it" is also nonsense, but it's even harder to see why. It could be that a world without evil is pure nonse, but you just can't see why with your tiny human brain. This could be the best of all possible worlds.

 

[Deleted member 69082]

If God real why bad things happen


Bruh legit debunked on the first pages of the Bible. The book legit tells you bad things happen because Eve ate the apple and man fell into sin

Yeh that sure solves the problem. Just solve a retarded take with another retarded take theory

 

[Deleted member 69082]

Can God create a stone so heavy even he can't lift it?

Imo omnipotence in itself is a paradox.

Omnipotence isn’t a paradox, impotence is

 

[Deleted member 69082]

Here's my point though: "square circle" is meaningless. It doesn't actually refer to anything. It's just two words smashed together that results in no coherent semantic content. It's just like saying "God can't afddsfgfdsgsdfg." If god can't afddsfgfdsgsdfg, does that make him not omnipotent? No, it doesn't because that's just nonsense, but so is "square circle" nonsense. It's just a bit harder to see because it sounds like it might mean something. "A rock so heavy he can't lift it" is also nonsense, but it's even harder to see why. It could be that a world without evil is pure nonse, but you just can't see why with your tiny human brain. This could be the best of all possible worlds.

A best of all possible worlds which includes unimaginable heinous evil? Yeh sure checks out. Funny thing is this is the best response a theist can give and it sucks ass

 

[ElTruecel]

Yeh that sure solves the problem. Just solve a retarded take with another retarded take theory

You’re applying your own morality on God that’s pretty retarded in itself

 

[longjohnmong]

A best of all possible worlds which includes unimaginable heinous evil? Yeh sure checks out. Funny thing is this is the best response a theist can give and it sucks ass

lol, your best counter argument is nothing but sarcastic dismissal and you're going to talk about argument quality?

 

[Deleted member 69082]

You’re applying your own morality on God that’s pretty retarded in itself

Elab

 

[Deleted member 69082]

lol, your best counter argument is nothing but sarcastic dismissal and you're going to talk about argument quality?

Your response is literally god is complex so you wouldn’t understand

JFL at this ignorance

 

[Deleted member 21182]

Here's my point though: "square circle" is meaningless. It doesn't actually refer to anything. It's just two words smashed together that results in no coherent semantic content. It's just like saying "God can't afddsfgfdsgsdfg." If god can't afddsfgfdsgsdfg, does that make him not omnipotent? No, it doesn't because that's just nonsense, but so is "square circle" nonsense. It's just a bit harder to see because it sounds like it might mean something. "A rock so heavy he can't lift it" is also nonsense, but it's even harder to see why. It could be that a world without evil is pure nonse, but you just can't see why with your tiny human brain. This could be the best of all possible worlds.

Well the definition of being all good is to never let anything wrong happen innit

And if bad things happen that are out of human control either god isn’t all good or is all good but isn’t all powerful

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

If you take into account it is confirmed god is both all good and all powerful

All good defined as what’s best for people you’d have to question the amount of bad that happened in the world in forms of natural disasters many times to religious people

Now when u look at such a thing either god isn’t all good aka he chose to do it

Or he isn’t all powerful so he couldn’t control it from happening

For me that ends the discussion since many natural events throughout history like the earth quake in Lisbon make it impossible

Athiest cope dnrd

 

[longjohnmong]

Your response is literally god is complex so you wouldn’t understand

JFL at this ignorance

No, it's literally that creating a universe is complex, so you wouldn't understand. But if it's not then maybe you can enlighten me on how to create a coherent universe.

 

[longjohnmong]

Well the definition of being all good is to never let anything wrong happen innit

no

And if bad things happen that are out of human control either god isn’t all good or is all good but isn’t all powerful

no, I just explained why this isn't true

 

[Deleted member 69082]

No, it's literally that creating a universe is complex, so you wouldn't understand. But if it's not then maybe you can enlighten me on how to create a coherent universe.

Well I mean you’re already presupposing existence of god so that gets no one anywhere

 

[Deleted member 21182]

Athiest cope dnrd

It’s not about being atheist but curious

I wish I was blinded in faith but unfortunately my mind doesn’t avoid questions and things that can disprove my faith

 

[Deleted member 86159]

u srs think ur the first person to say this or bring it up? Don’t you think if it really debunked anything people would be talking about it?

You’re actually retarded.

Well there’s no way of debunking it or proving it jfl

 

[Deleted member 21182]

lol, your best counter argument is nothing but sarcastic dismissal and you're going to talk about argument quality?

Idk at this point the only thing proving god is faith because based on the evidence we have available it is more likely the universe was made out of nothing or even a simulation than an actual god

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

It’s not about being atheist but curious

I wish I was blinded in faith but unfortunately my mind doesn’t avoid questions and things that can disprove my faith

No I agree tbh to think it is all falls back to a single Individual is simply foolish

One of my theories is that the apple of eden signifies god taking refuge on earth and diverting himself into all the humans to experience earth and worldly pleasure, and thus it opened him up to negative worldly pleasure as well

All of us are a piece of God.

Numerology has left me very simulation death trapped brained tho.

Niggas can all be expressed by numbers, what's that sound like to you...

 

[longjohnmong]

Well I mean you’re already presupposing existence of god so that gets no one anywhere

No, I'm not. It's not an argument for the existence of god. It's an argument against the problem of evil argument.

I don't even believe in god.

 

[Deleted member 21182]

No I agree tbh to think it is all falls back to a single Individual is simply foolish

One of my theories is that the apple of eden signifies god taking refuge on earth and diverting himself into all the humans to experience earth and worldly pleasure, and thus it opened him up to negative worldly pleasure as well

All of us are a piece of God.

Numerology has left me very simulation death trapped brained tho.

Niggas can all be expressed by numbers, what's that sound like to you...

being in a simulation is also very likely since unless every society is unable to get to the point of making that tech possible due to total extinction

We are very close to be able to simulate a life inside a computer that doesn’t know it’s inside a computer

So it goes to show calculating based on odds puts us on a sub 1% likelihood to not be in a simulation

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

being in a simulation is also very likely since unless every society is unable to get to the point of making that tech possible due to total extinction

We are very close to be able to simulate a life inside a computer that doesn’t know it’s inside a computer

So it goes to show calculating based on odds puts us on a sub 1% likelihood to not be in a simulation

I see it as the 3rd dimension being basically a simulation compared to what our true frame of perspective is, in the 4th, or whereever we're really from.

Not a computer with an Asian typing on it innit

 

[cancercell]

Combined iq of all posts above = <95

 

[Deleted member 46404]

Its impossible for any god to exist

If you’re ugly blame god

 

[Deleted member 46404]

Combined iq of all posts above = <95

I thought you roped

 

[cancercell]

I thought you roped

Who are u bro

 

[Deleted member 46404]

Who are u bro

maybe u remember my old account, i went autistic over eye areas and i remember ur nose thread

 

[cancercell]

maybe u remember my old account, i went autistic over eye areas and i remember ur nose thread

ceo?

 

[Deleted member 46404]

ceo?

Yes

 

[Deleted member 68569]

If you take into account it is confirmed god is both all good and all powerful

All good defined as what’s best for people you’d have to question the amount of bad that happened in the world in forms of natural disasters many times to religious people

Now when u look at such a thing either god isn’t all good aka he chose to do it

Or he isn’t all powerful so he couldn’t control it from happening

For me that ends the discussion since many natural events throughout history like the earth quake in Lisbon make it impossible

All powerful above his creation*

 

[Deleted member 69082]

No, I'm not. It's not an argument for the existence of god. It's an argument against the problem of evil argument.

I don't even believe in god.

Why ru even defending the argument then Lmao

 

[78766]

Reminder that people lose their foreskin over religion

 

[Deleted member 67937]

I never claimed it was mine but arguing with children is like this

Every single view point of this argument has already been talked about multiple times, it just comes off as 'know it all' when you make an absolute statement like that, even though it's impossible to know how the universe works, and will probably be forever.

But yeah i was stupid, it's not as if it's different from any other claim to start discussion, i do it too