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		boty393
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Went clubbing recently and tried to dance with around six different girls. None of them stayed with me — basically, rejected me.
I can approach girls and talk to them just fine (if drunk), but I feel like I don’t offer much in terms of attractiveness.
For example, I approached a 10/10, took her hand, and told her her outfit looked good. She smiled and said thanks, and then I just went back to my group without even trying to continue. The idea of dancing with someone like her feels kind of unrealistic — especially when I can’t even get “normal” girls to dance with me.
Confidence in approaching isn’t a huge issue for me, but I think my case is a bit different. I come off as intimidating — to everyone.
I’m 6'3" (192 cm), and people often tell me I have a look that seems like I’m angry or about to fight someone. I’m not even that muscular, but I’ve got a broad frame and a big chest. I speak loudly and have a temper that can seem aggressive.
I get a lot of respect from other guys — like that night, I was talking to a group of eight people, and when I asked one of them something, everyone went quiet and listened. I laughed and said, “You don’t all have to listen just because I’m talking,” but I realized I might have sounded more intense than I thought (I was also a bit drunk, to be fair).
Anyway, I wasn’t sure what to make of it until I found K. Shami’s video The Male Archetype Spectrum (Explained Fast & Real).
From what I understood, I’m probably in the Sinner or maybe even Ogre category — and ideally, I should move toward the Robust Pretty Boy archetype.
I’m 18, by the way.
Anyway, if you have any tips or thoughts.
	
		
			
		
		
	
				
			I can approach girls and talk to them just fine (if drunk), but I feel like I don’t offer much in terms of attractiveness.
For example, I approached a 10/10, took her hand, and told her her outfit looked good. She smiled and said thanks, and then I just went back to my group without even trying to continue. The idea of dancing with someone like her feels kind of unrealistic — especially when I can’t even get “normal” girls to dance with me.
Confidence in approaching isn’t a huge issue for me, but I think my case is a bit different. I come off as intimidating — to everyone.
I’m 6'3" (192 cm), and people often tell me I have a look that seems like I’m angry or about to fight someone. I’m not even that muscular, but I’ve got a broad frame and a big chest. I speak loudly and have a temper that can seem aggressive.
I get a lot of respect from other guys — like that night, I was talking to a group of eight people, and when I asked one of them something, everyone went quiet and listened. I laughed and said, “You don’t all have to listen just because I’m talking,” but I realized I might have sounded more intense than I thought (I was also a bit drunk, to be fair).
Anyway, I wasn’t sure what to make of it until I found K. Shami’s video The Male Archetype Spectrum (Explained Fast & Real).
From what I understood, I’m probably in the Sinner or maybe even Ogre category — and ideally, I should move toward the Robust Pretty Boy archetype.
I’m 18, by the way.
Anyway, if you have any tips or thoughts.