It's official: TAILS vs Seth Walsh on Social Class

[Seth Walsh]

TAILS using ChatGPT on a YouTube post to try and win a non-arguement. Moving the goal posts.

• IQ and parental wealth predict adult income at similar magnitudes (meta-analysis β≈.27 vs β≈.26). sciencedirect.com
• Only ~15-25 % of income variance is tied to IQ; the majority comes from education, social networks, luck, and inherited resources. ifstudies.org
• Higher family SES raises children’s IQ over time; environment and capital feed cognition, not just genes. pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
• Adoption into richer, cognitively stimulating homes lifts average IQ by 10-15 points; child IQ shows modest positive correlation with adoptive parents, not zero. pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.govpnas.org
• “70 % of lottery winners go broke” is folklore; longitudinal data find bankruptcy rates below 2 % and lasting gains in life satisfaction. forbes.comacademic.oup.com
• About 16 % of NFL players file bankruptcy within 12 years; the driver is short earning windows and poor financial planning, not measured low IQ. abi.org
• Post-war wealth shocks level inequality briefly; asset ownership, policy, and social capital quickly reinstate class gaps—far from a one-generation IQ reset. wid.world

Long-term success is multicausal: cognitive ability matters, but so do capital, institutions, non-cognitive skills, and chance.

• IQ and parental socioeconomic status predict adult income at comparable strength; meta-analysis finds no “overwhelming” IQ edge researchgate.net
• Family resources boost cognition across childhood; adoption into higher-SES homes raises mean IQ ≈ 10-15 points and shows modest positive links with adoptive-parent IQ—not zero pnas.orgpmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
• “70 % of lottery winners go broke” is urban legend; long-run studies show winners largely retain wealth and report higher life satisfaction, with bankruptcy rare time.com
• Among NFL retirees only 15-16 % file bankruptcy within 12 years—nowhere near 70–80 %, and earnings level doesn’t predict who fails nber.org
• Wartime wealth destruction produced temporary equality; capital ownership and policy—not IQ—drove the quick rebound in class gaps (see Piketty’s 20th-century data) en.wikipedia.org

Outcome drivers are multifactor: cognitive ability, family capital, education quality, social networks, policy, and chance—not IQ alone.

 

[lastredeemer]

White iverson, when I started balling I was younggg

 

[Seth Walsh]

High IQ born into a destitute social class doesn't stand a chance...


Did Conor McGregor make it out of inner city Dublin into $100m+ of wealth because of high IQ, or because of his talent, fighting abilities, chance, demeanor, entertainment factor, subsequent sponsorships and social compounding?

The thing is, McGregor still could not buy "class" even after making the money.

My argument is that high social class is the greatest predictor of income generation over a lifetime in general - if we cut it down to the largest "sole factor".

IQ is not the biggest factor.

 

[weedwacker]

White iverson, when I started balling I was younggg

u gon think about me when i’m goneeeeeee

 

[AustrianMogger]

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TAILS using ChatGPT on a YouTube post to try and win a non-arguement. Moving the goal posts.

• IQ and parental wealth predict adult income at similar magnitudes (meta-analysis β≈.27 vs β≈.26). sciencedirect.com
• Only ~15-25 % of income variance is tied to IQ; the majority comes from education, social networks, luck, and inherited resources. ifstudies.org
• Higher family SES raises children’s IQ over time; environment and capital feed cognition, not just genes. pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
• Adoption into richer, cognitively stimulating homes lifts average IQ by 10-15 points; child IQ shows modest positive correlation with adoptive parents, not zero. pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.govpnas.org
• “70 % of lottery winners go broke” is folklore; longitudinal data find bankruptcy rates below 2 % and lasting gains in life satisfaction. forbes.comacademic.oup.com
• About 16 % of NFL players file bankruptcy within 12 years; the driver is short earning windows and poor financial planning, not measured low IQ. abi.org
• Post-war wealth shocks level inequality briefly; asset ownership, policy, and social capital quickly reinstate class gaps—far from a one-generation IQ reset. wid.world

Long-term success is multicausal: cognitive ability matters, but so do capital, institutions, non-cognitive skills, and chance.

• IQ and parental socioeconomic status predict adult income at comparable strength; meta-analysis finds no “overwhelming” IQ edge researchgate.net
• Family resources boost cognition across childhood; adoption into higher-SES homes raises mean IQ ≈ 10-15 points and shows modest positive links with adoptive-parent IQ—not zero pnas.orgpmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
• “70 % of lottery winners go broke” is urban legend; long-run studies show winners largely retain wealth and report higher life satisfaction, with bankruptcy rare time.com
• Among NFL retirees only 15-16 % file bankruptcy within 12 years—nowhere near 70–80 %, and earnings level doesn’t predict who fails nber.org
• Wartime wealth destruction produced temporary equality; capital ownership and policy—not IQ—drove the quick rebound in class gaps (see Piketty’s 20th-century data) en.wikipedia.org

Outcome drivers are multifactor: cognitive ability, family capital, education quality, social networks, policy, and chance—not IQ alone.

Cope

 

[FaceandBBC]

White iverson, when I started balling I was younggg

u gon think about me when i’m goneeeeeee

I need that money like the ring I never woooon, I woooooon

 

[overtier1011]

Tails is either a retard or a genius because he chose an already lost argument.

 

[Seth Walsh]

BUMP