It's ragefuel how Americans are the only ones who can get away with cheesy expressiveness

[6ft4]

From watching vids of Americans approaching foids, the guy can deliver lines that are cheesy as fuck and still have a cute foid give him the time of day so long as he's a white 5'9 MTN
A PSLer who scours through American social circles on instagram sent me some prom photos and the friend groups are full of so many Gook and Spic abominations who would be bully victims in white countries outside of North America but somehow they meet the NT threshold in America meaning that being a white MTN who's not a complete autist is actually seen as a halo rather than just the bare minimum to avoid exclusion.

This affords whites the freedom to be slightly cringe because the bar for NT is just so fucking low when nerdy looking gooks have flourishing social circles full of white friends.

When watching vids of Tall HTNs approaching American foids, it seems like their cheesy lines and openness get positive or at least friendly reactions nearly every time.
Rather than their stats increasing the need for them to fit a very narrow behavioural stereotype as it does in the Isles, it actually affords them more leeway to express themselves and be openly cheesy

I have awkward tendencies in foid interactions due to lack of NT by Isles standards, but the one thing I have is the ability to unashamedly say outright how I feel to a foid without having to hide behind sarcasm

While NT normies might play things cool and tease the foid by telling her that he knows she fancies him, my approach once my filter is loosened with alcohol is just to tell a foid openly what I think in a genuine manner with the assumption that some foid will eventually appreciate it
I took this same approach sober in a few daygame approaches

The issue is I am in the wrong market where genuine openness is seen as naive or weak by Isles foids whereas in America where expressiveness is encouraged, stating your genuine thoughts / feelings isn't automatically regarded as cringe by foids and often seems to be appreciated

 

[Sceptical]

are foids really that easy in some parts of america?

 

[Nectar]

Most are zesty and have really good social skills unlike Europeans who are dull, emotionless and unexpressive at the same time

 

[LateAscension]

I have noticed this myself in toronto. Growing up I was a tall white mtn and i couldnt get shit becuase everyone was white. Now toronto is ethnic and I notice i get more iois from women of all ages.

 

[BeardedUnicorn]

From watching vids of Americans approaching foids, the guy can deliver lines that are cheesy as fuck and still have a cute foid give him the time of day so long as he's a white 5'9 MTN
A PSLer who scours through American social circles on instagram sent me some prom photos and the friend groups are full of so many Gook and Spic abominations who would be bully victims in white countries outside of North America but somehow they meet the NT threshold in America meaning that being a white MTN who's not a complete autist is actually seen as a halo rather than just the bare minimum to avoid exclusion.

This affords whites the freedom to be slightly cringe because the bar for NT is just so fucking low when nerdy looking gooks have flourishing social circles full of white friends.

When watching vids of Tall HTNs approaching American foids, it seems like their cheesy lines and openness get positive or at least friendly reactions nearly every time.
Rather than their stats increasing the need for them to fit a very narrow behavioural stereotype as it does in the Isles, it actually affords them more leeway to express themselves and be openly cheesy

I have awkward tendencies in foid interactions due to lack of NT by Isles standards, but the one thing I have is the ability to unashamedly say outright how I feel to a foid without having to hide behind sarcasm

While NT normies might play things cool and tease the foid by telling her that he knows she fancies him, my approach once my filter is loosened with alcohol is just to tell a foid openly what I think in a genuine manner with the assumption that some foid will eventually appreciate it
I took this same approach sober in a few daygame approaches

The issue is I am in the wrong market where genuine openness is seen as naive or weak by Isles foids whereas in America where expressiveness is encouraged, stating your genuine thoughts / feelings isn't automatically regarded as cringe by foids and often seems to be appreciated

There are zero places to really cold approach in the US. Americans are like this because we are way more atomized than euros. Also NT standards in the US are way higher. Europe is generally easy mode compared to the US and many mutts can attest to this

 

[BeardedUnicorn]

are foids really that easy in some parts of america?

Not really. The issue in the US is the lack of infrastructure and car dependence. Not to mention other things like the drinking age being 21 effectively cucking ratios, way more abundance of overweight foids, generally lower quality women in terms of both looks, presentation, intellect, and attitude, and I can go on. Also stuff like frat culture and college, which are effectively the only times you can really have a window. In contentinal europe even some no name mid sized city will have more blonde beckies and jbs than a place like NYC or LA, plus younger foids being in clubs and bars. If you aren't a giga extroverted frat normie in American college setting or some mullato jestermaxxer spic with a goatee its kind of over. Also have to edit but another factor as well is that American women are more man hating in general and are usually really sensitive to edgy shit, with European women I can be openly racist and they dont seem to mind

 

[FutureExoticChad]

From watching vids of Americans approaching foids, the guy can deliver lines that are cheesy as fuck and still have a cute foid give him the time of day so long as he's a white 5'9 MTN
A PSLer who scours through American social circles on instagram sent me some prom photos and the friend groups are full of so many Gook and Spic abominations who would be bully victims in white countries outside of North America but somehow they meet the NT threshold in America meaning that being a white MTN who's not a complete autist is actually seen as a halo rather than just the bare minimum to avoid exclusion.

This affords whites the freedom to be slightly cringe because the bar for NT is just so fucking low when nerdy looking gooks have flourishing social circles full of white friends.

When watching vids of Tall HTNs approaching American foids, it seems like their cheesy lines and openness get positive or at least friendly reactions nearly every time.
Rather than their stats increasing the need for them to fit a very narrow behavioural stereotype as it does in the Isles, it actually affords them more leeway to express themselves and be openly cheesy

I have awkward tendencies in foid interactions due to lack of NT by Isles standards, but the one thing I have is the ability to unashamedly say outright how I feel to a foid without having to hide behind sarcasm

While NT normies might play things cool and tease the foid by telling her that he knows she fancies him, my approach once my filter is loosened with alcohol is just to tell a foid openly what I think in a genuine manner with the assumption that some foid will eventually appreciate it
I took this same approach sober in a few daygame approaches

The issue is I am in the wrong market where genuine openness is seen as naive or weak by Isles foids whereas in America where expressiveness is encouraged, stating your genuine thoughts / feelings isn't automatically regarded as cringe by foids and often seems to be appreciated

I once set my location to Germany and the UK on Wizz and the girls 9 times out of 10 would just left me on read whenever I'd ask or say something semi-intimate or thought provoking . But if I sent something NT / sexual like "Can I see whats under?" or "Is that for me?", they were wayyyy more likely to respond.

Girls here will at least reply to you if you ask something actually thought provoking even if it isnt genuine or if its just passive bs their making up to keep the convo going because its part of the default culture.

Must be brutal having to go engage with such behavior. I feel bad for EUcels.

 

[6ft4]

I once set my location to Germany and the UK on Wizz and the girls 9 times out of 10 would just left me on read whenever I'd ask or say something semi-intimate or thought provoking . But if I sent something NT / sexual like "Can I see whats under?" or "Is that for me?", they were wayyyy more likely to respond.

Girls here will at least reply to you if you ask something actually thought provoking even if it isnt genuine or if its just passive bs their making up to keep the convo going because its part of the default culture.

Must be brutal having to go engage with such behavior. I feel bad for EUcels.

I've been having convos with AI recently about how seeking any kind of thought provoking convos with foids is cucking me hard

The whole point of having conversations with foids isn't about landing on a topic you can both have a genuine interest in discussing, but rather it's just to stay in each other's presence long enough for her to feel comfortable with the thought of you inserting your dick in her

The whole point of conversations with foids is comfort building, if it doesn't feel "easy" within the first 30 seconds she already checks out, looks can't save you here.
Foids have absolutely zero tolerance for discomfort, if there is any degree of friction at the start of the interaction they'll just keep moving onto guys until they find one where this friction doesn't exist.
They will choose a frictionless interaction with a 5'9 MTN over an interaction with a 6'4 HTN that requires any degree of effort to maintain.

When I interact with a new foid, my brain treats conversation as something used to scan through different topics until we land on something where the conversation starts to flow naturally, I feel willing to afford that time until it picks up.
With foids however, they are not seeking a conversational content that allows a natural flow, rather they are seeking a natural flow from the very start with the content being completely irrelevant.

I am trying to seek flow based on content, they are trying to seek flow irrespective of content
Talking is just a tool to allow their comfort to develop in your presence, there isn't a single thing you can say to them that actually makes them think, normies use language just as if they're animal grunts, it's all signalling, nothing to do with thinking or deeper meaning.
Isles foids are the most surface level foids in existence, trying to reach anything "deeper" with them is a farcical idea

If you say American foids are less like this then that sounds good
I'm moving to an EU location where people are much more aspie than the isles so I expect to feel more at peace there but maybe if I ever want to show a degree of expression to foids and not be punished for it I'd need to move to America

 

[FutureExoticChad]

Isles foids are the most surface level foids in existence, trying to reach anything "deeper" with them is a farcical idea

For the longest time I thought that you, FGC, ChickenAndRiceBrah, etc were all exaggerating to an extent when it came to talking about being NT, Isles foids and the dating market in the UK and that a lot of the more extreme takes / jokes were just for the sake of banter.

I didn't realize how legit all of you were being until I ran a Wizz experiment on myself in England and could confirm first hand for myself how legit NT + looks threshold theory is. Maybe my experience might be a little skewed cus I was interacting with JBs that were my age exclusively but the point still stands.

During my experiment, It actually felt like I couldn't get a worthy Instagram or Snap from a foid despite being low-mid HTN in looks facially (when softmaxxed) unless I sent something ruthlessly NT and braindead (assuming it worked), but If I sent some semi thought provoking compliment then at best the convo would just end with some surface level bs.

The only scenario in which I'd have my looks praised was when I did the former, but whenever a conversation followed the theme of the latter I'd get 0 validation.

You genuinely need HSTikkyTokky-tier Neurotypicality if you wanna slay semi-consistently in the UK.

Also: Why do people in the UK text like their in 2013? the amount of "___ haha" and or "___ X" I saw / got was straight up comical.

An example of an attempt at trying to be NT, but ultimately having my lack of NT-ness get brutally exposed and clowned at by what I think you'd refer to as a chav:

She must have gotten offended cus I told her she looked like a teacher I knew but the outcome was inevitable regardless.

This also happened way more than I'd like to admit. But I found some success occasionally

maybe if I ever want to show a degree of expression to foids and not be punished for it I'd need to move to America

If you do then be aware that negative-sentience foids are still the overwhelming majority here.

But there is a non-insigificant minority of non-braindead foids that you can connect with on a deeper level that I wouldn't think you'd otherwise be able to find in the Isles.

 

[incel194012940]

It’s because car and suburb culture makes social interaction comparatively rare and something you have to go out of your way to do

 

[CloudyCuck]

From watching vids of Americans approaching foids, the guy can deliver lines that are cheesy as fuck and still have a cute foid give him the time of day so long as he's a white 5'9 MTN
A PSLer who scours through American social circles on instagram sent me some prom photos and the friend groups are full of so many Gook and Spic abominations who would be bully victims in white countries outside of North America but somehow they meet the NT threshold in America meaning that being a white MTN who's not a complete autist is actually seen as a halo rather than just the bare minimum to avoid exclusion.

This affords whites the freedom to be slightly cringe because the bar for NT is just so fucking low when nerdy looking gooks have flourishing social circles full of white friends.

When watching vids of Tall HTNs approaching American foids, it seems like their cheesy lines and openness get positive or at least friendly reactions nearly every time.
Rather than their stats increasing the need for them to fit a very narrow behavioural stereotype as it does in the Isles, it actually affords them more leeway to express themselves and be openly cheesy

I have awkward tendencies in foid interactions due to lack of NT by Isles standards, but the one thing I have is the ability to unashamedly say outright how I feel to a foid without having to hide behind sarcasm

While NT normies might play things cool and tease the foid by telling her that he knows she fancies him, my approach once my filter is loosened with alcohol is just to tell a foid openly what I think in a genuine manner with the assumption that some foid will eventually appreciate it
I took this same approach sober in a few daygame approaches

The issue is I am in the wrong market where genuine openness is seen as naive or weak by Isles foids whereas in America where expressiveness is encouraged, stating your genuine thoughts / feelings isn't automatically regarded as cringe by foids and often seems to be appreciated

I don’t think foids see openness as a bad thing. But it doesn’t matter regardless. The reason we are open so that the foid knows we want sex and so that she can leave if she doesn’t want that. Saves time

 

[AmericanMTN]

are foids really that easy in some parts of america?

yea they really are

 

[Whatever]

I've never seen any proof that girls in America are easier (or harder) than girls anywhere else. Every study shows that women in America, all over Europe, even extending to countries like Brazil and Turkey all have similar body counts on average. So even if Americans seem more friendly and open in some Youtube approach video, ultimately what that turns into is out of friendliness she'll entertain the approach in the moment and then ghost the guy later. And a friendly girl is actually more likely to do that leading on than a blase Tinder slut. This is both on a societal and personal scale, how friendly a girl is can be entirely separate from how she actually gives guys the chance.

 

[6ft4]

For the longest time I thought that you, FGC, ChickenAndRiceBrah, etc were all exaggerating to an extent when it came to talking about being NT, Isles foids and the dating market in the UK and that a lot of the more extreme takes / jokes were just for the sake of banter.

I didn't realize how legit all of you were being until I ran a Wizz experiment on myself in England and could confirm first hand for myself how legit NT + looks threshold theory is. Maybe my experience might be a little skewed cus I was interacting with JBs that were my age exclusively but the point still stands.

During my experiment, It actually felt like I couldn't get a worthy Instagram or Snap from a foid despite being low-mid HTN in looks facially (when softmaxxed) unless I sent something ruthlessly NT and braindead (assuming it worked), but If I sent some semi thought provoking compliment then at best the convo would just end with some surface level bs.

legit
You need to run every response through AI with the prompt "convert this sentence into how someone from Ireland/UK with 90 IQ would speak" to keep them interested

The only scenario in which I'd have my looks praised was when I did the former, but whenever a conversation followed the theme of the latter I'd get 0 validation.

exactly, your looks only become a factor to them once you pass the NT threshold, this is why they regard some moggers as invisible and some inbred retards as the centre of their universe

I occasionally get looks from foids in public because they presumably think I fit the archetype of their preferred kind of NPC thus they think I would act that way, but in Nordic countries I get far more looks from attractive foids, based solely on height and face, archetype isn't the reason there

You genuinely need HSTikkyTokky-tier Neurotypicality if you wanna slay semi-consistently in the UK.

Also: Why do people in the UK text like their in 2013? the amount of "___ haha" and or "___ X" I saw / got was straight up comical.

Not sure, I just use "haha" out of habit in a bid to appear NT

An example of an attempt at trying to be NT, but ultimately having my lack of NT-ness get brutally exposed and clowned at by what I think you'd refer to as a chav:

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She must have gotten offended cus I told her she looked like a teacher I knew but the outcome was inevitable regardless.

This also happened way more than I'd like to admit. But I found some success occasionally

It's like they're actively trying to punish you for saying anything the slightest bit off script, they give responses that are intentionally more difficult to respond to.
She doesn't even have a chav pheno, she's actually more middle class looking among UK phenos but I can tell she's a zero sentience drone regardless

If you do then be aware that negative-sentience foids are still the overwhelming majority here.

But there is a non-insigificant minority of non-braindead foids that you can connect with on a deeper level that I wouldn't think you'd otherwise be able to find in the Isles.

The last convo I remember having with an American foid on tinder, I got into the topic of how Americans seem much more socially open that Irish people despite "muh irish people are friendly" stereotype and the American foid told me that she was walking with some irish foids from her uni course and she stopped a random girl on the street to compliment her bag or something she was wearing and she said the irish foids got extremely embarrassed by being in her presence when she did that and were acting as if she had just committed social suicide for merely talking to a person she didn't know during the daytime.

I've never seen any proof that girls in America are easier (or harder) than girls anywhere else. Every study shows that women in America, all over Europe, even extending to countries like Brazil and Turkey all have similar body counts on average. So even if Americans seem more friendly and open in some Youtube approach video, ultimately what that turns into is out of friendliness she'll entertain the approach in the moment and then ghost the guy later. And a friendly girl is actually more likely to do that leading on than a blase Tinder slut. This is both on a societal and personal scale, how friendly a girl is can be entirely separate from how she actually gives guys the chance.

I take your point on board about foids who are friendly in the moment ghosting later
It's so rare for a foid I approach to show high interest in me in Ireland that when they do it's effectively a guaranteed slay
So I automatically associate displays of high interest from an approach to be likely to result in success

Anecdotally, forevergymcelling did more slaying in a summer in America than he did in all of his years clubbing in England
He said it was way easier although this was in 2017 when millenials were still in their club slaying years so things may have changed since then
Zeta also said he got no attention in nightclubs in the Netherlands but in America he was getting approached by 5+ girls per night

I feel like there's more openness surrounding hookup culture in America than in Europe
I remember watching a tiktok of some American foids in college making a cake for their friend to celebrate her taking her "40th dick"

If we assume there is no difference in foids body counts in US v EU, then maybe it's the manner in which sex occurs that is the key difference
Foids in Ireland have an extreme aversion to fucking a guy who isn't known through social group or isn't at least in the same scene as them.
It's seems like American foids are more willing to give a stranger the benefit of the doubt if they meet in a club or through an app and take him at face value rather than the Irish foid tendency of treating a guy like king or a leper based entirely on who his social connections are

Maybe it's largely the case that PSLers who failed the NT test in Europe have their strengths amplified in America so it creates anecdotes of European raised PSLers doing better in America

 

[karmacitathugmaxx]

lifefuel for yankcels

 

[kana]

From watching vids of Americans approaching foids, the guy can deliver lines that are cheesy as fuck and still have a cute foid give him the time of day so long as he's a white 5'9 MTN
A PSLer who scours through American social circles on instagram sent me some prom photos and the friend groups are full of so many Gook and Spic abominations who would be bully victims in white countries outside of North America but somehow they meet the NT threshold in America meaning that being a white MTN who's not a complete autist is actually seen as a halo rather than just the bare minimum to avoid exclusion.

This affords whites the freedom to be slightly cringe because the bar for NT is just so fucking low when nerdy looking gooks have flourishing social circles full of white friends.

When watching vids of Tall HTNs approaching American foids, it seems like their cheesy lines and openness get positive or at least friendly reactions nearly every time.
Rather than their stats increasing the need for them to fit a very narrow behavioural stereotype as it does in the Isles, it actually affords them more leeway to express themselves and be openly cheesy

I have awkward tendencies in foid interactions due to lack of NT by Isles standards, but the one thing I have is the ability to unashamedly say outright how I feel to a foid without having to hide behind sarcasm

While NT normies might play things cool and tease the foid by telling her that he knows she fancies him, my approach once my filter is loosened with alcohol is just to tell a foid openly what I think in a genuine manner with the assumption that some foid will eventually appreciate it
I took this same approach sober in a few daygame approaches

The issue is I am in the wrong market where genuine openness is seen as naive or weak by Isles foids whereas in America where expressiveness is encouraged, stating your genuine thoughts / feelings isn't automatically regarded as cringe by foids and often seems to be appreciated

In 2025, I got a girl's # by calling her mommy, it's my go-to method, I'll also blush and act nervous and talk respectfully