It’s Time to Admit Defeat Environment Copers

[Deleted member 5349]

“If only I ate hard foods”, “if only I mewed”, “if only I didn’t get braces”. These are the arguments I here from environment copers all the time. I used to be one of these people, but I simply couldn’t delude myself anymore as to the importance of genetics.

Here are Henry Cavill’s crowded teeth

Justin Bieber had orthodontic treatment for an overbite at a young age. This is his side profile

Cillian Murphy is known for having insane forward growth. Great Jawline and zygos, this is his lower dental arch

Richard Ramirez grew up drinking and eating sugar during his prime developmental years and grew up to have rotten teeth with a narrow palate

Simon Nessman is one of the worlds highest earning male models and he has a legit mouth breather tier palate

Ariana Lima is perhaps the most beautiful woman out there and we see yet again, rotated maxillary incisors and mandibilar incisor crowding

David Laid has great forward growth with excellent mandibilar and zygomatic projection, yet has crooked teeth

There are so many other examples out there of forward grown people with crooked teeth. Now, I’m not denying the importance of proper oral posture, all the ancients had straight teeth with wide palates, something that can be explained in environment alone, however, I feel that maxillary recession does not substantially alter facial aesthetics unless the malocclusion is quite severe and retractive orthodontics are used. Nonetheless, environment copers need to just accept that it’s this single molecule that determines your success with women in 90% of cases

and not the fact that your maxilla is 3mm too far down which is not noticable irl

 

[Britishlooksmaxxer]

Retards me
Mouthbreathing will destroy your facial aesthetics if you do it while you develop I dont what you're motive is for all these points but keep coping

 

[Deleted member 5349]

Retards me
Mouthbreathing will destroy your facial aesthetics if you do it while you develop I dont what you're motive is for all these points but keep coping

Bruh, I’m a born mewer, and never had braces and have better teeth than all these people and they have better bones than me. It’s genetic

 

[Deleted member 5859]

Looks are based purely on genetics

 

[Nisse]

Dn rd, but environment can undoubtedly cause a weak jaw

 

[xdxdxnice1]

i had 11 teeth removed when i was 9 and grew up eating fucking bread and microwave pizza and i’m 6ft 2 and have developed face

environment copers need a reality check

 

[Deleted member 5349]

Dn rd, but environment can undoubtedly cause a weak jaw

Yeah, if you hang your mouth open 24/7 like a fucking idiot, no shit your maxilla is going to collapse in on itself like the twin towers, but most people here are blaming their oral posture on their subhumanity, when in reality, they’re just low t genetic trash

 

[Deleted member 6095]

I have a 50mm palate and a 12 teeth smile. My bones are STILL SHIT

 

[Deleted member 5349]

I have a 50mm palate and a 12 teeth smile. My bones are STILL SHIT

Same bro, never had braces, extractions, surgery, nothing. Have perfectly straight teeth including room for my wisdoms and my undereye support is non existent

 

[Deleted member 4804]

Weak jaws and ultra subhuman recessed people always have some kind of problem that is not correlated with genetics, same with overbite. The only thing u can blame on genetics is ur phenotype in which an asian would be overall recessed

 

[Deleted member 6095]

Same bro, never had braces, extractions, surgery, nothing. Have perfectly straight teeth including room for my wisdoms and my undereye support is non existent

Same bro, literal infraorbital implants required to fix that shit

 

[Deleted member 5349]

Same bro, literal infraorbital implants required to fix that shit

Same bro, they’ll ascend me so hard

 

[WannaBeA6]

what about those orthotropics results in kids that they usually post?

 

[Deleted member 4430]

copers, they will never learn

 

[Dylan2]

Mouthbreathing/Shit posture definitely causes downward growth/narrower skull but difference is more like normie potential to incel not rather than model potential to incel

 

[Deleted member 5349]

what about those orthotropics results in kids that they usually post?

They’re good, but even then, the changes in the maxilla aren’t drastic. Sure their face have move up and forwards multiple millimeters, but you don’t see substantial differences in undereye support and zygo projection, because at the end of the day, the size of those bones is genetic, the position is environmental

 

[Gaia262]

“If only I ate hard foods”, “if only I mewed”, “if only I didn’t get braces”. These are the arguments I here from environment copers all the time. I used to be one of these people, but I simply couldn’t delude myself anymore as to the importance of genetics.

Here are Henry Cavill’s crowded teeth

View attachment 548699

Justin Bieber had orthodontic treatment for an overbite at a young age. This is his side profile


View attachment 548702

Cillian Murphy is known for having insane forward growth. Great Jawline and zygos, this is his lower dental arch

View attachment 548707

Richard Ramirez grew up drinking and eating sugar during his prime developmental years and grew up to have rotten teeth with a narrow palate

View attachment 548711

Simon Nessman is one of the worlds highest earning male models and he has a legit mouth breather tier palate

View attachment 548715

Ariana Lima is perhaps the most beautiful woman out there and we see yet again, rotated maxillary incisors and mandibilar incisor crowding



View attachment 548721

David Laid has great forward growth with excellent mandibilar and zygomatic projection, yet has crooked teeth

View attachment 548736

There are so many other examples out there of forward grown people with crooked teeth. Now, I’m not denying the importance of proper oral posture, all the ancients had straight teeth with wide palates, something that can be explained in environment alone, however, I feel that maxillary recession does not substantially alter facial aesthetics unless the malocclusion is quite severe and retractive orthodontics are used. Nonetheless, environment copers need to just accept that it’s this single molecule that determines your success with women in 90% of cases View attachment 548755and not the fact that your maxilla is 3mm too far down which is not noticable irl

Your are correct its genetic. the human mind is amazing in the way it tries to cope with "Muh environment" , as long as you have done everything reasonably well with your environment its safe to say its genetic.

I strongly doubt "stacies" are mewing and chewing for their faces...

Its a much better mentality to just accept that its genetic this way you can start taking concrete steps to actually fixing the problems one by one either through surgeries and other endevours.

If you take the paradigm that its just the environment, you will forever be blaming yourself and fantasising "what could have been".

 

[Whatashame]

“If only I ate hard foods”, “if only I mewed”, “if only I didn’t get braces”. These are the arguments I here from environment copers all the time. I used to be one of these people, but I simply couldn’t delude myself anymore as to the importance of genetics.

Here are Henry Cavill’s crowded teeth

View attachment 548699

Justin Bieber had orthodontic treatment for an overbite at a young age. This is his side profile


View attachment 548702

Cillian Murphy is known for having insane forward growth. Great Jawline and zygos, this is his lower dental arch

View attachment 548707

Richard Ramirez grew up drinking and eating sugar during his prime developmental years and grew up to have rotten teeth with a narrow palate

View attachment 548711

Simon Nessman is one of the worlds highest earning male models and he has a legit mouth breather tier palate

View attachment 548715

Ariana Lima is perhaps the most beautiful woman out there and we see yet again, rotated maxillary incisors and mandibilar incisor crowding



View attachment 548721

David Laid has great forward growth with excellent mandibilar and zygomatic projection, yet has crooked teeth

View attachment 548736

There are so many other examples out there of forward grown people with crooked teeth. Now, I’m not denying the importance of proper oral posture, all the ancients had straight teeth with wide palates, something that can be explained in environment alone, however, I feel that maxillary recession does not substantially alter facial aesthetics unless the malocclusion is quite severe and retractive orthodontics are used. Nonetheless, environment copers need to just accept that it’s this single molecule that determines your success with women in 90% of cases View attachment 548755and not the fact that your maxilla is 3mm too far down which is not noticable irl

Answer me then: Why ALL humans find a defined jaw attractive? or high cheekbones?