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TrueMtn991
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Spent most of my life obsessing over my looks and trying to glow up. I actually did improve massively too, which makes the social pill even more brutal.
Looksmaxxing can increase your SMV, get you better first impressions and obviously looks matter massively for attraction. I’m not denying any of that.
But if you’re severely ND, holy shit does it expose the limits of looks.
A girl once said something to me that genuinely hit harder than basically any insult I’ve gotten:
“You don’t look weird. You ARE weird.”
Because what the fuck do you even looksmax after that? Your personality? Your neurological wiring?
You can ascend facially, get lean, build a good frame, fix your hair/skin/teeth, dress properly and finally stop looking like the guy you used to be. Then you open your mouth and within 5 minutes she realizes something is off.
That’s the NDpill.
Looks get you through the initial filter, but then you still need normal social calibration. Banter, eye contact, knowing when to speak, knowing when to shut up, reading signals, not overthinking every sentence, not randomly saying autistic shit and realizing 30 seconds later why it sounded weird.
Normies don’t even consciously think about half of this. Meanwhile you’re manually processing a conversation like it’s a fucking quick-time event.
And the worst part is that you can’t hardmaxx neurological wiring the same way you can hardmaxx your nose or softmaxx your skin.
Obviously I’m still going to looksmax because being attractive + ND is better than being unattractive + ND. Looks absolutely matter and I’d rather maximize every variable I actually have control over.
But realizing that you can spend years ascending physically only to discover looks weren’t the final boss is one of the most brutal pills I’ve swallowed.
At this point it feels like unless I somehow learn to socially compensate for being ND, no amount of facial improvement is going to completely save my ass.
Any actually ND guys here who ascended physically and still struggled socially/dating-wise? Did you eventually learn enough social calibration to compensate or did the NDpill keep fucking you regardless?
Looksmaxxing can increase your SMV, get you better first impressions and obviously looks matter massively for attraction. I’m not denying any of that.
But if you’re severely ND, holy shit does it expose the limits of looks.
A girl once said something to me that genuinely hit harder than basically any insult I’ve gotten:
“You don’t look weird. You ARE weird.”
Because what the fuck do you even looksmax after that? Your personality? Your neurological wiring?
You can ascend facially, get lean, build a good frame, fix your hair/skin/teeth, dress properly and finally stop looking like the guy you used to be. Then you open your mouth and within 5 minutes she realizes something is off.
That’s the NDpill.
Looks get you through the initial filter, but then you still need normal social calibration. Banter, eye contact, knowing when to speak, knowing when to shut up, reading signals, not overthinking every sentence, not randomly saying autistic shit and realizing 30 seconds later why it sounded weird.
Normies don’t even consciously think about half of this. Meanwhile you’re manually processing a conversation like it’s a fucking quick-time event.
And the worst part is that you can’t hardmaxx neurological wiring the same way you can hardmaxx your nose or softmaxx your skin.
Obviously I’m still going to looksmax because being attractive + ND is better than being unattractive + ND. Looks absolutely matter and I’d rather maximize every variable I actually have control over.
But realizing that you can spend years ascending physically only to discover looks weren’t the final boss is one of the most brutal pills I’ve swallowed.
At this point it feels like unless I somehow learn to socially compensate for being ND, no amount of facial improvement is going to completely save my ass.
Any actually ND guys here who ascended physically and still struggled socially/dating-wise? Did you eventually learn enough social calibration to compensate or did the NDpill keep fucking you regardless?
