I've never seen a nigga here ascend through surgery. The only ascensions I've seen are by people who softmaxxed

[Deleted member 17244]

I need surgeries also but its hard af to correct my failos like long mf, recessed forehead and too high gonial angle (not too high to could fix it with bsso ccw). So basically im forced to rot all my life (im short af also )

 

[Deleted member 17244]

View attachment 1842734thats him lol. Has a good bod tho. Do you mog him?

He is prob htn in brazil jfl

 

[Pakicel]

either that or foid's standards arent as high as we think. I remember @Uglybrazilian posted a thread waaaaay back about how his ex gf would want constant sex from him and that she put out a vibe that she had genuine sexual attraction to him. He posted his pics and he was a ltn typical favella pheno. He even said he cheated on that girl jfl. Maybe brazil is a different ball game entirely but even i will admit that what i see irl sometimes defies blackpill completely. I think it is nigh impossible for all mtn and mtb+ pairings to not have any sexual attraction in them, that would just be crazy. Maybe this is my brain on cope tho

Well you are the @Ceo of cope I swear everyone picks usernames that define them,

 

[Pakicel]

I need surgeries also but its hard af to correct my failos like long mf, recessed forehead and too high gonial angle (not too high to could fix it with bsso ccw). So basically im forced to rot all my life (im short af also )

It is your lack of self-esteem that makes you think that. You have compact mid face and ideal gonial angle. You are also 6 feet+.

 

[Deleted member 17244]

It is your lack of self-esteem that makes you think that. You have compact mid face and ideal gonial angle. You are also 6 feet+.

I have 130 gonial angle, .9 mf ratio and im 5 8. Mirin delusion pakichad

 

[Pakicel]

I have 130 gonial angle, .9 mf ratio and im 5 8. Mirin delusion pakichad

Are you sure you do not have a 1 midface ratio with wide jaw, ideal gonial angle and placement?

You should think you are looksmatched with henry cavill.

 

[Deleted member 17244]

Are you sure you do not have a 1 midface ratio with wide jaw, ideal gonial angle and placement?

You should think you are looksmatched with henry cavill.

If i could have 1 mf ratio, ideal gonial angle and ideal placement one i may be cavil tier

 

[Ceo of cope]

Well you are the @Ceo of cope I swear everyone picks usernames that define them,

No. In fact i am heavily opposed to @CEO of Sex in most things. Just that i can ser where he is coming from sometimes

 

[Uglybrazilian]

either that or foid's standards arent as high as we think. I remember @Uglybrazilian posted a thread waaaaay back about how his ex gf would want constant sex from him and that she put out a vibe that she had genuine sexual attraction to him. He posted his pics and he was a ltn typical favella pheno. He even said he cheated on that girl jfl. Maybe brazil is a different ball game entirely but even i will admit that what i see irl sometimes defies blackpill completely. I think it is nigh impossible for all mtn and mtb+ pairings to not have any sexual attraction in them, that would just be crazy. Maybe this is my brain on cope tho

Im 100% sure my ex was genuinely sexually attracted to me, even tho im just a regular favelado. There are soo many gl girls with normie guys, its impossible to believe none of them feel genuine attraction to their boyfriends. Its real.

 

[zap]

It's hard for me to ascend with surgery because I have many small issues rather than one thing that can be fixed. I definitely have a short chin though so that's first on the list

 

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It's hard for me to ascend with surgery because I have many small issues rather than one thing that can be fixed. I definitely have a short chin though so that's first on the list
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how old r u

 

[Danish_Retard]

It's hard for me to ascend with surgery because I have many small issues rather than one thing that can be fixed. I definitely have a short chin though so that's first on the list
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Is that genioplasty or a chin implant?

 

[Danish_Retard]

 

[zap]

Is that genioplasty or a chin implant?

genioplasty it seems

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how old r u

22 turning 23 this year

 

[Ceo of cope]

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one of the best ascensions and it's totally unrelated to PSL

 

[Ceo of cope]

Im 100% sure my ex was genuinely sexually attracted to me, even tho im just a regular favelado. There are soo many gl girls with normie guys, its impossible to believe none of them feel genuine attraction to their boyfriends. Its real.

yeah i will admit even as a fanatical blackpiller this is the 1 thing gnawing at me. With all the millions of women being with normies, it is kinda of hard to believe all of them are just using them for buxxing/it being cucked, especially in the countries where a lot of women are now earning equal to or more than their spouses or even in the "traditional" cases the difference in income isn't big enough usually for the guy to be buxxing her. Probably not a case of oofy doofy either since those relationships also have little sexual attraction.

I also have had recently experienced one of my friends (who is a solid ltn and 6'1 which is average height in the netherlands) not only managed to land a girlfriend that was out of his league with relative ease and keep her for 2 years: he also had around 3 one night stands in the span of a year ever since going to uni (and he isn't a PUA type or a guy that tries to actively slay or anything, these just fell into his lap). These 3 are the only ones that i know of, he might have had more which i dont know about. I also hear his campus friends talk about how he dances with girls, kisses them etc. Just yesterday i was chilling with him watching a movie and all of a sudden he just whips out his phone and goes "yep the girl i flirted with yesterday is following me on IG now" + he was recalling that same day about how he forgot the name of his latest ONS. Not in a joking or even boasting way at all. Very down to earth and like he is regretting not asking it.

Keep in mind this is arguably the worst looking guy out of our friendgroup and the one which we joked about getting a girlfriend the last (in high school). He turned out to be first and get ONSes aswell. Actually baffling and it kind of shocked me out of the blackpill for a while. He even beats out my 5'10 HTN gymcelled turkish friend in pure relationship and slay count even if my turkish friend has girls approach him, call him attractive, has his body and arms groped by women sometimes etc but he is very insecure and aspie and hence always fucks it up or never even gives it a shot because he believes he is ugly and unlovable. Not being mentally fucked is legit

@CEO of Sex thoughts on the bit in red? I basically had a similar experience to yours which i just now remembered jfl.

 

[Pakicel]

It's hard for me to ascend with surgery because I have many small issues rather than one thing that can be fixed. I definitely have a short chin though so that's first on the list
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Same here lol Need a genio too.

 

[Pakicel]

yeah i will admit even as a fanatical blackpiller this is the 1 thing gnawing at me. With all the millions of women being with normies, it is kinda of hard to believe all of them are just using them for buxxing/it being cucked, especially in the countries where a lot of women are now earning equal to or more than their spouses or even in the "traditional" cases the difference in income isn't big enough usually for the guy to be buxxing her. Probably not a case of oofy doofy either since those relationships also have little sexual attraction.

I also have had recently experienced one of my friends (who is a solid ltn and 6'1 which is average height in the netherlands) not only managed to land a girlfriend that was out of his league with relative ease and keep her for 2 years: he also had around 3 one night stands in the span of a year ever since going to uni (and he isn't a PUA type or a guy that tries to actively slay or anything, these just fell into his lap). These 3 are the only ones that i know of, he might have had more which i dont know about. I also hear his campus friends talk about how he dances with girls, kisses them etc. Just yesterday i was chilling with him watching a movie and all of a sudden he just whips out his phone and goes "yep the girl i flirted with yesterday is following me on IG now" + he was recalling that same day about how he forgot the name of his latest ONS. Not in a joking or even boasting way at all. Very down to earth and like he is regretting not asking it.

Keep in mind this is arguably the worst looking guy out of our friendgroup and the one which we joked about getting a girlfriend the last (in high school). He turned out to be first and get ONSes aswell. Actually baffling and it kind of shocked me out of the blackpill for a while.

@CEO of Sex thoughts on the bit in red? I basically had a similar experience to yours which i just now remembered jfl.

Because you take all this looks theory shit to an extreme. No one said ugly guys can't get laid lol.

 

[Pakicel]

It's hard for me to ascend with surgery because I have many small issues rather than one thing that can be fixed. I definitely have a short chin though so that's first on the list
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Is it just me or did genioplasty make his jaw more angular.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

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Mf just changed his hair, got lean and changed expression

 

[Ceo of cope]

Because you take all this looks theory shit to an extreme. No one said ugly guys can't get laid lol.

thing is he gets laid like you would think only a gl guy gets laid. Very minimal effort. No jestermaxxing or numbers game or any shit like that. Just exists and hangs out with people. Not even super strong social circle

 

[Ceo of cope]

is it just me or does he have more prominent zygos too

Mf just changed his hair, got lean and changed expression

 

[Ceo of cope]

well the chin is part of the mandible so yes it did from the front because the jawline itself is now longer, so from the front it creates the appearance of being more angular even if the angle is actually the same. It just goes further downwards.

Is it just me or did genioplasty make his jaw more angular.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

is it just me or does he have more prominent zygos too

Cos he's leaner, and smiling like in the first pic rounds your cheeks

 

[Ceo of cope]

Cos he's leaner, and smiling like in the first pic rounds your cheeks

also now that i think about it, a lot of times when people claim someone has low zygos, they really just have big zygos. Basically ones that may start high but have so much mass that they end low

 

[Pakicel]

well the chin is part of the mandible so yes it did from the front because the jawline itself is now longer, so from the front it creates the appearance of being more angular even if the angle is actually the same. It just goes further downwards.

Lifefuel tbh. I gotta feeling genio will ascend me to normie.

 

[Ceo of cope]

Lifefuel tbh. I gotta feeling genio will ascend me to normie.

if you want to get implants or increase any bone in size and prominence you should get bimax first if you are recessed, otherwise all the added bone mass will look really uncanny. I think there was a reddit post of some army guy getting implants that was a perfect example of this