I’ve seen some users insist men are supposed to have some downward growth?

[Pei]

Why?

 

[Deleted member 23558]

Looks like shit if the gonial is 90 .

 

[Pei]

Looks like shit if the gonial is 90 .

Barrett’s angle is far from 90

 

[Deleted member 23778]

Yes because our skulls are vertically taller than females.

You need sagittal, vertical, and lateral growth as a male. As a woman you don't really need much of anything except maybe forward growth