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This thread is dedicated to learning Japanese language, in regards to JBW maxing and career maxing
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you can get a IT or a recruitment consultant job with a jlpt n3 level if you have a degree, with n1 level you can work for international companiesThis nigga actually thinks he can learn Japanese proficient enough to career max with it
Takes 2-3 hours a day for 2 years.you can get a IT or a recruitment consultant job with a jlpt n3 level if you have a degree, with n1 level you can work for international companies
R u actually oe are you just saying that?im gonna learn mandarin and cantonese tbh
i really want to but havent startedR u actually oe are you just saying that?
I've already been to Japan and worked in Japanese company with all the Japanese peopleThis nigga actually thinks he can learn Japanese proficient enough to career max with it
Konichiwa, mogging-kun! Genki desuka?こにちいわ
Damn mirin, didn't know that@Niko Yes I can read a bit of Japanese, learned it by listening to j-pop. Mogging wrote "konichiwa" which means "hello". I wrote in response, albeit in Latin alphabet, "hello, mogging! how are you?" but its literal meaning of "how are you" is actually "Are you in high spirits?"
Thanks bhai, I haven't put an actual effort into learning the language however I do would like to know more about the language. I can already read the hiragana alphabet, a bit of the katakana alphabet and the most difficult of all are the kanji of which I have only 30 memorized. I could memorize more but I am not learning the language, just spontaneously pick it up. Would like to learn the language but I know I'd fall inside a rabbithole if I did haha.Damn mirin, didn't know that
Simultaneously? Seems like a very, very hard task. Especially since both languages on their own are very different from English and hence very demanding for English natives.wanikani - 2000 kanji( onyomii) + 6000 vocab words(kunyomi readings)
torii.srs - supplemented wanikani vocab app ( exlude wanikani vocab) - + 5500 words
grammar- tae kims guide. (jlpt5-4 is more than nuff, rest can be learned through immersion) or watch "cury dolly" chanel on youtube- fundamentals series.
after learning 500-1000 kanji and around 4000 vocab words + covering grammar you can start immersion
anki+yomichan extension - you watch anime or read something in japanese or its subtitles - one mouse click and this word immediately goes to anki deck with context sentence and direct translation.
do this 2-3 hours a day - guaranteed jlpt 1 in 1.5-2 years
btw japanese doesnt really hold much value outside of japan. Chinese in that sense is more prestigious. Im learning both of them though.
I wish to learn Chinese for business interests but also partially for personal interests. It'll come further down the road though, will first have to master Norwegian and then learn French.Chinese in that sense is more prestigious. Im learning both of them though.
違う、僕なまだまだペラペラじゃない@Yatagarasu is probably most fluent in the language of anime
Omae wa mou shinderu
Samei tried to learn once, learned some words and how introduce myself etc. watashiwa psychoman des lol
but depression never let me finish anything.
i remmeber i used lingo mingo or sth like that, it was good.
japanese and chinese overlap slightly. all japanese kanji are actually chinese characters and in 90% cases they share the same meaning.Simultaneously? Seems like a very, very hard task. Especially since both languages on their own are very different from English and hence very demanding for English natives.
How is your listening ability? Could you follow along to two native Japanese speakers having a normal conversation?japanese and chinese overlap slightly. all japanese kanji are actually chinese characters and in 90% cases they share the same meaning.
in japanese you just need to know around 2000 kanji to be called proficient/advanced while in chinese you need to know around 3000 hanzi.
well i have free time for it so why not. Besides i always had a dream to work in UN or in Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Knowledge of russian(native) english/french and japanese/chinese can give me a good advantage.
Honestly the hardest thing in learning a language is finding a blueprint or source that gradually push you over your baseline. If you find a good app its jsut a matter of habit. For me its quite easy - 90% of all your efforts in language learning is just acquiring a vocabulary. 1000 words are nuff to cover 80% of text. ultimate goal 10 000- to cover 98%. So you need a good vocab app that also provides context sentences. you also need to know basics of grammar- usually you can cover it in 1-2 weeks.
if its a european language- its quite easy- you can cover 1000 words through anki or a similar app and beginner grammar in 2-3 months. immediately after you can get rid of all study books and just start immersion- like watching movies/tv series in your target language+ subtitles and just consistently build vocabular from now on. Sadly in japanese/chinese you kinda need to drill kanji/hanzi and personally for me i remember them best when i study them separately.
2 hours a day i ussualy devote to wanikani and torii.srs - while doing 400-500 reviews i have a youtube video or tv/anime in the background.
3-4 for chinese.
For chinese i just reccomend a single programme - mandarin blueprint. the Intermediate course costs around 300 y.e but those guys are very good. They managed to build their course from 0 up to advanced including 12k vocabular words+ 3000 hanzi. After you learn your first 100 hanzi they also gonna start to drill you constantly with context sentences where you know all the vocabulary while simultaneously teaching you the grammar. they teach you grammar based on comprehensible immersion, so that you can get the natural feel of grammar instead of just mindlessly drilling it.
honestly i dunno because im not even practicing it for now. i believe in steven Krashen theory of language acquistion ( mostly because it personally worked for me)How is your listening ability? Could you follow along to two native Japanese speakers having a normal conversation?
Chinese is way more mainstream... Japanese has less competitors.wanikani - 2000 kanji( onyomii) + 6000 vocab words(kunyomi readings)
torii.srs - supplemented wanikani vocab app ( exlude wanikani vocab) - + 5500 words
grammar- tae kims guide. (jlpt5-4 is more than nuff, rest can be learned through immersion) or watch "cury dolly" chanel on youtube- fundamentals series.
after learning 500-1000 kanji and around 4000 vocab words + covering grammar you can start immersion
anki+yomichan extension - you watch anime or read something in japanese or its subtitles - one mouse click and this word immediately goes to anki deck with context sentence and direct translation.
do this 2-3 hours a day - guaranteed jlpt 1 in 1.5-2 years
btw japanese doesnt really hold much value outside of japan. Chinese in that sense is more prestigious. Im learning both of them though.
Canto's useless unless you're obsessed with Chinese people. Everybody who speaks Cantonese can speak Mandarin as well.im gonna learn mandarin and cantonese tbh
You need to have a basic understanding of the spoken language before you begin reading. This is even true for written languages that are phonetic.honestly i dunno because im not even practicing it for now. i believe in steven Krashen theory of language acquistion ( mostly because it personally worked for me)
which is that comprehensible reading should be first priority and output/hearing skills comes next. input>>>>>>>>output. By getting tons of input you unconsciously with time acquire that language where you no longer need to "practice speaking or your listening comrehension". Even when you practice speaking overhwelming bulk of your progress actually comes from getting input by opposite speaker.
Like my experience with french and english. As soon as acquired 1000 words and went through beginner grammar i immediately started playing games and watching movies in english/fr with en/fr subtitles with dictionary liying around at hand. I was consuming content that i actually enjoy while learning new words in context. 2 years later in university i could freely express myself in any topic without actually ever practicing speaking before.
the thing is - to express yourself freely you need vocabulary. Its very hard to fail in outputting if you have good vocabulary. To have good hearing comrehension you again need to know tons of vocabulary. Just watching movies in target language without subtitles is not very efficient because most of the time you wont be able to hear new words.
with jap/chin il go the same road- acquire good reading comrehension first- learn most common hanzi/kanj+ vocabulary. Then im going to start slowly maintaining these languages by watching original tv shows with subtitles. With time by watching them il unconsciously acquire output skill and hearing comprehension by getting tons of voiced and written input.
afaik steven krashen method doesnt work for everyone. There is a minority of people who have a good written comprehension/ maybe even lived abroad/ can easily understand spoken language but they fail hardly in expressing themselves. These type of people probably need to specifically focus on practicing outputing. Honestly you can easily practice outputing skills by trying to think in foreign language.
i really want to live in the south thoCanto's useless unless you're obsessed with Chinese people. Everybody who speaks Cantonese can speak Mandarin as well.
Mandarin will serve you better. Everybody in the south can speak it. However you'll still find plenty of folks in the south, from the North, who can only speak Mandarin. A lot of migrants from the North in Shenzhen and Guangzhou. And all the Chinese diaspora around the world will be able to speak Mandarin while only some of them will be able to speak Canto.i really want to live in the south tho