Jaw angle implant thread, whats is muscle dehiscence etc

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firstly, i am not a fucking surgeon so dont take everything i say seriously, i am just a hobby cuck like the rest of you. My info comes from reasoning what surgeons shared and what people on this forum has shared which is not that much info to be fair.

heads up, Look whats written in the pics and in the thread.


But yea firstly, most people dont even know what dehisinence is, but its basically just the muscle sitting above the implant as the pic below shows.


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this one is not dehisence tho, this is just implant reveal from having to much flare on the implant so it pierces thru the skin like a arrow.
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as we can see on the design its too pointy at the gonion, he fell for the flared gonion meme. Which is only valid on real bone when the muscle sits over it.
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this was the before btw

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In the pic below it explains anatomically the reasons for dehisinence or implant reveal. I would call it the fundamental problem with jaw angle implant.


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In the ideal world it would work like in the pic where you can detach the muscle and place it so it covers the implant in a natural way. But news alert some people masseter muscle naturally sits higher then the gonions too.

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But afteralll the jaw implant is still a valid procedure but should be done conservatively. and with the correct design, and this is your surgeons task obv, but this is some ground basics that is shown in the pics below(this is not a deep dive on to how design implants):

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overall jaw implant is a valid procedure if one wants a more pronounced jawline. but it wont lower your ramus with 1 cm and look good obv if not lucky i guess.

And it will def not make your gonions sharp like brad pits or any other guy with those naturally as that is the muscle not the bone.

Btw the photos are taken from other threads, i didnt save reference so if someone finds the orginal threads, you can link below
 
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Yeah implants on the gonions is such a complicated procedure that carries a lotta risks , i'd do filler and just clear my mind
 
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And it will def not make your gonions sharp like brad pits or any other guy with those naturally as that is the muscle not the bone.
"Tom Cruise had a jaw implant look at his before and after":

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In reality he always had flared gonia it was just his masseters:

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also JFL at people falling for that before image it's obviously him acting or auditioning
 
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firstly, i am not a fucking surgeon so dont take everything i say seriously, i am just a hobby cuck like the rest of you. My info comes from reasoning what surgeons shared and what people on this forum has shared which is not that much info to be fair.

heads up, Look whats written in the pics and in the thread.


But yea firstly, most people dont even know what dehisinence is, but its basically just the muscle sitting above the implant as the pic below shows.


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this one is not dehisence tho, this is just implant reveal from having to much flare on the implant so it pierces thru the skin like a arrow.
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as we can see on the design its too pointy at the gonion, he fell for the flared gonion meme. Which is only valid on real bone when the muscle sits over it.
View attachment 4583187

this was the before btw

View attachment 4583190


In the pic below it explains anatomically the reasons for dehisinence or implant reveal. I would call it the fundamental problem with jaw angle implant.


View attachment 4583189


In the ideal world it would work like in the pic where you can detach the muscle and place it so it covers the implant in a natural way. But news alert some people masseter muscle naturally sits higher then the gonions too.

View attachment 4583192

But afteralll the jaw implant is still a valid procedure but should be done conservatively. and with the correct design, and this is your surgeons task obv, but this is some ground basics that is shown in the pics below(this is not a deep dive on to how design implants):

View attachment 4583191


overall jaw implant is a valid procedure if one wants a more pronounced jawline. but it wont lower your ramus with 1 cm and look good obv if not lucky i guess.

And it will def not make your gonions sharp like brad pits or any other guy with those naturally as that is the muscle not the bone.

Btw the photos are taken from other threads, i didnt save reference so if someone finds the orginal threads, you can link below


It's called custom peek implants not this silicon generic shit.
 
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firstly, i am not a fucking surgeon so dont take everything i say seriously, i am just a hobby cuck like the rest of you. My info comes from reasoning what surgeons shared and what people on this forum has shared which is not that much info to be fair.

heads up, Look whats written in the pics and in the thread.


But yea firstly, most people dont even know what dehisinence is, but its basically just the muscle sitting above the implant as the pic below shows.


View attachment 4583188



this one is not dehisence tho, this is just implant reveal from having to much flare on the implant so it pierces thru the skin like a arrow.
View attachment 4583193
View attachment 4583186
as we can see on the design its too pointy at the gonion, he fell for the flared gonion meme. Which is only valid on real bone when the muscle sits over it.
View attachment 4583187

this was the before btw

View attachment 4583190


In the pic below it explains anatomically the reasons for dehisinence or implant reveal. I would call it the fundamental problem with jaw angle implant.


View attachment 4583189


In the ideal world it would work like in the pic where you can detach the muscle and place it so it covers the implant in a natural way. But news alert some people masseter muscle naturally sits higher then the gonions too.

View attachment 4583192

But afteralll the jaw implant is still a valid procedure but should be done conservatively. and with the correct design, and this is your surgeons task obv, but this is some ground basics that is shown in the pics below(this is not a deep dive on to how design implants):

View attachment 4583191


overall jaw implant is a valid procedure if one wants a more pronounced jawline. but it wont lower your ramus with 1 cm and look good obv if not lucky i guess.

And it will def not make your gonions sharp like brad pits or any other guy with those naturally as that is the muscle not the bone.

Btw the photos are taken from other threads, i didnt save reference so if someone finds the orginal threads, you can link below
Skimmed through everything quickly, bookmarked I’ll open later. Looks good.
 
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Flared gonions are overrated
 
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firstly, i am not a fucking surgeon so dont take everything i say seriously, i am just a hobby cuck like the rest of you. My info comes from reasoning what surgeons shared and what people on this forum has shared which is not that much info to be fair.

heads up, Look whats written in the pics and in the thread.


But yea firstly, most people dont even know what dehisinence is, but its basically just the muscle sitting above the implant as the pic below shows.


View attachment 4583188



this one is not dehisence tho, this is just implant reveal from having to much flare on the implant so it pierces thru the skin like a arrow.
View attachment 4583193
View attachment 4583186
as we can see on the design its too pointy at the gonion, he fell for the flared gonion meme. Which is only valid on real bone when the muscle sits over it.
View attachment 4583187

this was the before btw

View attachment 4583190


In the pic below it explains anatomically the reasons for dehisinence or implant reveal. I would call it the fundamental problem with jaw angle implant.


View attachment 4583189


In the ideal world it would work like in the pic where you can detach the muscle and place it so it covers the implant in a natural way. But news alert some people masseter muscle naturally sits higher then the gonions too.

View attachment 4583192

But afteralll the jaw implant is still a valid procedure but should be done conservatively. and with the correct design, and this is your surgeons task obv, but this is some ground basics that is shown in the pics below(this is not a deep dive on to how design implants):

View attachment 4583191


overall jaw implant is a valid procedure if one wants a more pronounced jawline. but it wont lower your ramus with 1 cm and look good obv if not lucky i guess.

And it will def not make your gonions sharp like brad pits or any other guy with those naturally as that is the muscle not the bone.

Btw the photos are taken from other threads, i didnt save reference so if someone finds the orginal threads, you can link below
What about 3D printed Hydroxyapatite scaffolds.
 
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Fuck.

Does this happen to everyone who gets the jaw implant?

I don't want to get subhuman filler.
 
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Also the gonions can be rotated outwards in a 5 piece mandible osteotomy.

Would that affect results with the implant?

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Fuck.

Does this happen to everyone who gets the jaw implant?

I don't want to get subhuman filler.
yeah if u add height

filler is superior
 
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the goats back oooh i was thinking of u :owo::owo::owo:
 
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Fuck.

Does this happen to everyone who gets the jaw implant?

I don't want to get subhuman filler.
I mean nothing happens, like it can still look decent. Fillers is a better option for having more freedom
 
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firstly, i am not a fucking surgeon so dont take everything i say seriously, i am just a hobby cuck like the rest of you. My info comes from reasoning what surgeons shared and what people on this forum has shared which is not that much info to be fair.

heads up, Look whats written in the pics and in the thread.


But yea firstly, most people dont even know what dehisinence is, but its basically just the muscle sitting above the implant as the pic below shows.


View attachment 4583188



this one is not dehisence tho, this is just implant reveal from having to much flare on the implant so it pierces thru the skin like a arrow.
View attachment 4583193
View attachment 4583186
as we can see on the design its too pointy at the gonion, he fell for the flared gonion meme. Which is only valid on real bone when the muscle sits over it.
View attachment 4583187

this was the before btw

View attachment 4583190


In the pic below it explains anatomically the reasons for dehisinence or implant reveal. I would call it the fundamental problem with jaw angle implant.


View attachment 4583189


In the ideal world it would work like in the pic where you can detach the muscle and place it so it covers the implant in a natural way. But news alert some people masseter muscle naturally sits higher then the gonions too.

View attachment 4583192

But afteralll the jaw implant is still a valid procedure but should be done conservatively. and with the correct design, and this is your surgeons task obv, but this is some ground basics that is shown in the pics below(this is not a deep dive on to how design implants):

View attachment 4583191


overall jaw implant is a valid procedure if one wants a more pronounced jawline. but it wont lower your ramus with 1 cm and look good obv if not lucky i guess.

And it will def not make your gonions sharp like brad pits or any other guy with those naturally as that is the muscle not the bone.

Btw the photos are taken from other threads, i didnt save reference so if someone finds the orginal threads, you can link below
still confused why ppl dont try filler first you can dissolve if you don't like it
 
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still confused why ppl dont try filler first you can dissolve if you don't like it
If you ever plan surgery you should not get filler
 
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Because it makes it harder for a surgeon to operate and dissolvers never remove all filler
well yea makes sense but filler is last. Move the bone first first and then filler if needed after healing no? Plus idk for most young guys on this forum implants aren't rlly needed until maybe 25 do you agree?
 
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well yea makes sense but filler is last. Move the bone first first and then filler if needed after healing no? Plus idk for most young guys on this forum implants aren't rlly needed until maybe 25 do you agree?
You dont want to put a foreign object on top of a foreign object. You should fat graft after implant, never fillers
 
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You dont want to put a foreign object on top of a foreign object. You should fat graft after implant, never fillers
ok wdym exactly would gonion filler and genioplasty be considered object on top of object? btw i sent you a pm
 
ok wdym exactly would gonion filler and genioplasty be considered object on top of object? btw i sent you a pm
Yea i talked with a surgeon about this and he said it was risky and bad.
 
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Yea i talked with a surgeon about this and he said it was risky and bad.
really? Pagnoni told me it was fine but he said to wait 6 months for it to heal which ik is overkill. Pera in Turkey told me 8 weeks. A couple other surgeons said it was fine in the 8-12 week range. What were the reasons you heard it was risky and bad?
 
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ok wdym exactly would gonion filler and genioplasty be considered object on top of object? btw i sent you a pm
how could that be object ontop of object they're 2 distinct far enough anatomical landmarks for it not to make a difference
 
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how could that be object ontop of object they're 2 distinct far enough anatomical landmarks for it not to make a difference
well idk I just thought since it's placed near an area with healing bone and plates as well as newly changed soft tissue. I didn't really understand what he meant exactly my bad
 
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Fuck.

Does this happen to everyone who gets the jaw implant?

I don't want to get subhuman filler.
Filler mogs if you have enough money to dissolve and replace routinely

Don’t fall the anti filler propaganda
 
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really? Pagnoni told me it was fine but he said to wait 6 months for it to heal which ik is overkill. Pera in Turkey told me 8 weeks. A couple other surgeons said it was fine in the 8-12 week range. What were the reasons you heard it was risky and bad?
I dont really know, exactly but the surgeon i talked to was a heart surgeon before doing plastic surgeries. And he said it was a really bad idea. But it could be him being biased against fillers, the obv thing is that its higher risk of infection
 
Filler mogs if you have enough money to dissolve and replace routinely

Don’t fall the anti filler propaganda
Its a good idea, but i wouldnt recommend it when combining with other procedures. If you are filler maxxer you should do that only. Build it up over time and then continue. Then it will hold 20+ years
 
I dont really know, exactly but the surgeon i talked to was a heart surgeon before doing plastic surgeries. And he said it was a really bad idea. But it could be him being biased against fillers, the obv thing is that its higher risk of infection
fair but I think infection risk after 8-12 weeks isn't much of an worry due to soft tissue healing and swelling pretty much gone. Do you run healing peptides after your surgery? It won't make you be able to do filler 2-4 weeks after surgery ofc but it's a good add on. HGH, BPC, TB, GHK. Ofc most important aspect of recovery is time, sleep, and proper diet though
 
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Its a good idea, but i wouldnt recommend it when combining with other procedures. If you are filler maxxer you should do that only. Build it up over time and then continue. Then it will hold 20+ years
So would you would recommend chin filler over genioplasty if you are doing jaw filler as well?
 
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Implant reveal is something different as far as I know. It's when the implant isn't round (from the side) but square.

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So would you would recommend chin filler over genioplasty if you are doing jaw filler as well?
@lurking truecel @yussimania what do you guys think? Jaw filler meaning just in the gonions
 
@lurking truecel @yussimania what do you guys think? Jaw filler meaning just in the gonions
don't bother with chin filler - jaw filler is good tho

go for genioplasty get a solid movement on it to make sure you're chin isn't still recesses - you can then do it vertically to change the JFA
 
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don't bother with chin filler - jaw filler is good tho

go for genioplasty get a solid movement on it to make sure you're chin isn't still recesses - you can then do it vertically to change the JFA
yea i agree 100% wait wdym do it vertically have a second genioplasty after jaw filler?
 
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I want to get jaw angle implants but want to avoid dehisinence. My problem is that the ramus height I need for optimal ratios is pretty significant. Or just take the TMJ torquing / MSDO pill?
 
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I want to get jaw angle implants but want to avoid dehisinence. My problem is that the ramus height I need for optimal ratios is pretty significant. Or just take the TMJ torquing / MSDO pill?

@RealSurgerymax

what are you doing to prevent that?


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this is what hope looks like

Still waiting for one aesthetic result from that nigga. It's looksmaxxing not airwaymaxxing
 
Facial plastic surgeons love to whine about fillers, or any type of scar plane really. Oh u did threads, scars! Oh sculptras NOOOO!, RF microneedling MY GOD!!!

Meanwhile body plastic surgeons be cutting through 10 layers of scar tissue, fibrosis, burned fat, lymphatic soup, old sutures, calcified grafts, seromas from hell, prior botched BBL planes, post-pregnancy obliterated fascia, muscle that’s been stretched to God, skin that’s been lifted three times already. Yet still doing clean dissection, hemostasis, quilting sutures, drains.
 
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Implant reveal is something different as far as I know. It's when the implant isn't round (from the side) but square.

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None of the implants with reveal in the thread i sent has it because its sharp at the angles. The rounded shape is true but you can still have a weird reveal either way when the muscle sit on top. Its not a big deal tho really
 
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Facial plastic surgeons love to whine about fillers, or any type of scar plane really. Oh u did threads, scars! Oh sculptras NOOOO!, RF microneedling MY GOD!!!

Meanwhile body plastic surgeons be cutting through 10 layers of scar tissue, fibrosis, burned fat, lymphatic soup, old sutures, calcified grafts, seromas from hell, prior botched BBL planes, post-pregnancy obliterated fascia, muscle that’s been stretched to God, skin that’s been lifted three times already. Yet still doing clean dissection, hemostasis, quilting sutures, drains.
Yea i mean the thing is fillers and doing surgery doesnt go hand in hand. Just use fat graft instead. If you do filler on top of implants you kinda defeat the purpose either way
 
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